I Have Got to Stay Out of Sephora (and other glamourpuss issues)

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@maatTheViking I have very fine hair and I used a Bed Head tool when I want waves. It looks like a crimper, but there's only three sections and they are big, so you don't look like you've just stepped out of an 80s music video. It's called Wave Artist.
 
Just a warning; there's a class action suit against Wen hair products, with users claiming it makes their hair fall out. :yikes:
 
I think Piper does a good job with her makeup. I just wish she would lighten up the lip colors a bit.

I think she would look great in a bright pink or raspberry shade rather than the deep berry or red that I usually see her wear.
 
PRlady said:
Just a warning; there's a class action suit against Wen hair products, with users claiming it makes their hair fall out. :yikes:
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People forget it's sulfate free. So you have to scrub. If you don't scrub, your scalp isn't going to get clean and bad things happen.

I've been using it for five years. No problems, as long as I remember to scrub. :)
 
PrincessLeppard said:
People forget it's sulfate free. So you have to scrub. If you don't scrub, your scalp isn't going to get clean and bad things happen.

I've been using it for five years. No problems, as long as I remember to scrub. :)
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My previous hairdresser had about ten clients try it. Only the two with fine and thinner hair did not experience hair loss. Scrubbing or no scrubbing. It may be your hair type that has spared you this side effect.
 
PDilemma said:
My previous hairdresser had about ten clients try it. Only the two with fine and thinner hair did not experience hair loss. Scrubbing or no scrubbing. It may be your hair type that has spared you this side effect.
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I've been using Wen off and on for a few years. I have thick, wavy hair and have never had an issue. Scrubbing seems to be the key.
 
PrincessLeppard said:
People forget it's sulfate free. So you have to scrub. If you don't scrub, your scalp isn't going to get clean and bad things happen.

I've been using it for five years. No problems, as long as I remember to scrub. :)
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I have never used Wen but use sulfate free shampoos and have been for years. They lather up fine. I think it's sulfonate instead of sulfate in there.

But I did see the Wen lawsuit and it seems it will be settled, so we may never find out what went on.

I also want to pass on the warning about the grey market, like cheaper brand name products on amazon. I don't mind paying extra to get the real thing, you never know what you get from an unauthorized seller. It's like buying Chinese herbs in Chinatown--never ever do this! Like ever.
 
I buy my Wen from QVC. I'd buy it directly from the Wen website, but the last time I was there, you had to sign up for auto-shipment. And due to my fine, wussy hair, I don't use as much as most people and so that would be ridiculous.
 
What exactly is WEN and how is it different from shampoo? Would it help my mess??
 
It's a cleansing conditioner, so it doesn't lather, which is why you have to scrub. I imagine it's a pain in the neck with thick hair, but I don't have that problem.

You can probably get similar (and cheaper) results by just "washing" with a conditioner. I've tried it with a couple of different conditioners, but none of them work for me as well as WEN Lavender. :)
 
Every time I tried a sulfate free shampoo (I got a few from Birchbox) I hated it. I will stick with my John Frieda, thank you very much.
 
I mostly use Tresamme shampoo and conditioner. I do occasionally use a little argan oil if my hair starts to really go rogue. My hair is in pretty good condition, it is mostly just very very contrary. Sigh.
 
My hair doesn't seem to care whether it's sulfate or sulfate-free other than frizzing up with sulfate. I have two different brands in rotation. My hair gets extra shiny when I switch up the shampoos.
 
I'm not particular about shampoo. I use Suave in the summer and Dove extra moisture in the winter. In a pinch, I've even used DH's Pert.
 
PrincessLeppard said:
It's a cleansing conditioner, so it doesn't lather, which is why you have to scrub. I imagine it's a pain in the neck with thick hair, but I don't have that problem.
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I like it and I have thick hair. It takes some extra scrubbing but the end result is worth it.

@quartz - my hair is naturally curly and I find it is much more manageable when I use Wen instead of regular shampoo and conditioner.
 
I have Aveda co-wash for when I have to wash my hair twice in the same day. It's good.

But my standbys are Moroccan Oil Hydrate and the Kerstase for curly hair. Other then the price :yikes: they're great.
 
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Right now I'm using Aveda Rosemary Mint shampoo/conditioner and a Lush shampoo bar/conditioner. I switch between them every few weeks.
 
I want to say that I use Bioderma shampoo but I know that's totally not the name. :lol: :rollin:

I'll have to look it up when I get home.

It's Bio...something or other....LOL.
 
I use a shampoo made by a local manufacturer and Low poo creme by Yves Rocher. Great combination.
 
Habs said:
I like it and I have thick hair. It takes some extra scrubbing but the end result is worth it.

@quartz - my hair is naturally curly and I find it is much more manageable when I use Wen instead of regular shampoo and conditioner.
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Having now read a couple of articles about the lawsuit, it seems that many of the people in the class had rashes and redness that sound like an allergic reaction. As someone who has had allergic skin reactions to products like cleansers and facial lotions, I can tell you that no amount of scrubbing the offending product off will eliminate the reaction if I were to continue to apply the same product over and over again. Washing the product off with soap or a cleanser that I do not have skin reactions from will help immediately, but not eliminate the reaction. And reapplying it would just make the reaction worse no matter how much I rinsed or scrubbed it. (And scrubbing a rash is also going to irritate it further--I was not allowed to shower at all when I had full body hives for ten days, let alone "scrub" at the rash).

I'm not understanding Wen's complete denial here. It sounds as if it is possible to have an allergic skin reaction to some of their products. Just admit it, add a label warning people to discontinue use if they have symptoms and give refunds.
 
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Biotherm?
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Matrix Biolage is the name. I have it in the normalizing formula and also the one for color treated hair.

It was buy one get one free at the salon I take my son.

I've never been one for higher end shampoos but I must say this stuff is nice and 2 L of it for $20 was a great deal.
 
@topaz So the Bobbi Brown corrector is going back after all, too liquid and slippery. Now I know what you meant by using powder. I got the MAC one in pure orange. It's more of a paste and stays in place much better.
 
Bobbi Brown corrector comes in two formulas(serum and creamy). I just bought the serum one so I am testing it out. I have used the cream one for years. It is a fine line between cakey and just right. I've learned a few tricks over the years to deal with the creamy version. I use eye cream before hand and allow around 5 minutes to soak it. I apply to my skin using a concealer brush and then pat it in with my fingers. I then apply my concealer over it and immediately use a damp sponge/beauty blender and set it with a loose powder.

Be careful with the MAC one too. MAC was the first concealer I used but I found it too dry for my skin. Also, I found the MAC one has to be set with powder. It can easily crease without a powder.

The serum correctors/concealer seem to blend and stay better when using a brush.
 
Used the MAC corrector today, much more wearable and less slippery. The MUFE concealer that goes on top is liquid and quite moisturizing so they balance each other out. I don't set with powder because it makes the skin under my eyes look super dry. But it barely needed it. I also wait a few minutes after I use eye cream so the product stays put.
 
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I lost my concealer from Clinique, which I wasn't that happy with anyway. Got a $6 maybelline fit me. Makes more sense if I'm going to loose it. It works ok - but I don't have a lot of concealer needs.
 
maatTheViking said:
I lost my concealer from Clinique, which I wasn't that happy with anyway. Got a $6 maybelline fit me. Makes more sense if I'm going to loose it. It works ok - but I don't have a lot of concealer needs.
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If you're anything like me, the list concealer will show up now that you've bought a new one. I can't tell you how many lipsticks I have had to replace.
 
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