Gymnastics #24 - The Road to Paris

[canbelto]

Ok this is kind of delicate but is Suni estranged from her parents? I had read online that she was, and I notice only her sisters are there watching her at the trials, and she's from MN.

 

[ilovesalchows]

Not sure about Suni, but I hope if it is, the media respects her privacy and doesn't comment on it. We don't need another Simone/Al Trautwig moment.

 

[Allskate]

Not sure about Suni, but I hope if it is, the media respects her privacy and doesn't comment on it. We don't need another Simone/Al Trautwig moment.

Also, IMO, they are spending way too much time on the families/parent cams. Show us more routines. And, if you're not showing us routines, then show us the actual athletes and their responses and interactions.

 

[canbelto]

Also, IMO, they are spending way too much time on the families/parent cams. Show us more routines. And, if you're not showing us routines, then show us the actual athletes and their responses and interactions.

the coverage is also just so repetitive. After the 1000x hearing about Jordan's Air Jordans collection I feel like saying "ok, we get it. She's named after Michael Jordan."

 

[Jammers]

Also, IMO, they are spending way too much time on the families/parent cams. Show us more routines. And, if you're not showing us routines, then show us the actual athletes and their responses and interactions.

It's not as bad as ABC back in the day during the Indy 500 when they would always cut to the wives in the pits just as someone was about to make a move and pass the leader. You just wanted to throw a brick at the TV because of their stupidity. Luckily they don't it so much anymore.

 

[peibeck]

It’s because of sponsor , regardless of whether it’s the best preparation for the athletes.

It used to be that the team would now train all together until they leave for Paris. That would be the time to train with the same equipment they will use at the Games, if possible. I'd think floor and vault would probably vary the most.

 

[Karen-W]

It used to be that the team would now train all together until they leave for Paris. That would be the time to train with the same equipment they will use at the Games, if possible. I'd think floor and vault would probably vary the most.

Apparently there are some pretty significant differences with both the beam and bars equipment.

 

[peibeck]

sorry, had to do it.

Stephen is my cute nerd PH superhero, but I do wonder what happens if, as in Tokyo with Simone's troubles, Brody starts the comp and blows his knee again? (He was definitely less stable at trials than nationals, and still a bit overscored, imo). Will a one team member event specialist been worth the risk?

I hope that the announcement of the women’s team is less cheesy than the men’s announcement last night. NBC milking it up to the max!

NBC basically announced the team 20-25 minutes before it was official, so to say the least it was pretty anti-climatic. I guess they reversed order the standings for the official announcement, which made it even less exciting. There's no suspense in announcing Brody (or Simone) to the team last, like.... duh.

 

[Frau Muller]

Also, IMO, they are spending way too much time on the families/parent cams.

Yup, they’ll all show up live and in person during the Opening Ceremonies…

 

[peibeck]

Apparently there are some pretty significant differences with both the beam and bars equipment.

Interesting. I can't imagine how much a balance beam could really vary. It's still got to be the same height, width and length. Bar tension could definitely be a very different matter for both the women and men.

 

[Karen-W]

Interesting. I can't imagine how much a balance beam could really vary. It's still got to be the same height, width and length. Bar tension could definitely be a very different matter for both the women and men.

The podcast I was listening to said that the covering/padding for the beam is different. The Gymnova beams are squishier in that regard and it can be difficult to adjust.

For bars - it sounded like the material used to construct the bar itself is less flexible with Gymnova, so it impacts grip and bar tension.

 

[Hedwig]

was it ever said, what kind of injury Shilese sustained?

 

[skatfan]

Not that has been made public.

 

[Carolla5501]

One of the nice things is this will be a fairly experienced team and I’m sure they have gone to a lot of competitions both internationally and for those with college experience where they’ve been on different equipment than the equipment they’ve trained on so they’re probably better at adapting than others.


I can’t imagine every college in the United States for example uses the same equipment and Jade and Jordan have both got experience every Friday or Saturday night. You’re in a different location with a different set of equipment.

 

[canbelto]

Gabby Douglas posted this about Shilese:

Gabby Douglas on Instagram: "💔 i’m completely heartbroken. @shicanfly no one deserved it more. i know you will come back stronger and greater. i am so proud of everything you’ve accomplished. sending you healing, warmth, and love. i love you so s

96K likes, 248 comments - gabbycvdouglas on June 30, 2024: "💔 i’m completely heartbroken. @shicanfly no one deserved it more. i know you will come back stronger and greater. i am so proud of everything you’ve accomplished. sending you healing, warmth, and love. i love you so so much. forever...

www.instagram.com

It's sad but I'm glad Gabby found a friend in the gymnastics community. There was a lot of tension between her and the rest of the girls in Rio. To this day I think Gabby is not on good terms with Simone and Aly.

 

[skatfan]

Gabby Douglas posted this about Shilese:

Gabby Douglas on Instagram: "💔 i’m completely heartbroken. @shicanfly no one deserved it more. i know you will come back stronger and greater. i am so proud of everything you’ve accomplished. sending you healing, warmth, and love. i love you so s

96K likes, 248 comments - gabbycvdouglas on June 30, 2024: "💔 i’m completely heartbroken. @shicanfly no one deserved it more. i know you will come back stronger and greater. i am so proud of everything you’ve accomplished. sending you healing, warmth, and love. i love you so so much. forever...

www.instagram.com

It's sad but I'm glad Gabby found a friend in the gymnastics community. There was a lot of tension between her and the rest of the girls in Rio. To this day I think Gabby is not on good terms with Simone and Aly.

Just one example: I don’t think she was at Kyla Ross’s wedding yesterday - there were photos including Aly Raisman, Jordan Wieber and McKayla Maroney.

 

[tony]

Peacock coverage starts at 8:10 p.m. I’m in CT.

So you can adjust- it’s 8:10 EDT.

 

[canbelto]

Just one example: I don’t think she was at Kyla Ross’s wedding yesterday - there were photos including Aly Raisman, Jordan Wieber and McKayla Maroney.

Yeah she doesn't follow any of them on IG either. She does follow a bunch of WOGA-related gymnasts like Skye, Hezly Rivera, Kaliya Lincoln ...

 

[haribobo]

Just for reference, here are the scores from Nationals and Night 1 of the contenders for the 5th spot (decimal removed). I think they're close enough that tonight definitely is a make or break moment for all...

TIANA
VT 142 141 141
UB 127 126 127
BB 137 135 139
FL 137 138 138

JOSCELYN
VT 140 139 143
UB 132 132 133
BB 128 137 139
FL 133 140 139

HEZLY
VT 142 139 135
UB 141 138 140
BB 138 141 137
FL 131 132 135

LEANNE
VT 142 142 144
UB 139 135 139
BB 137 117 132
FL 137 136 131

KALIYA
VT 142
UB 134
BB 130
FL 141

 

[her grace]

To this day I think Gabby is not on good terms with Simone and Aly.

Well, Gabby did make victim-blaming comments after Raisman began publicly speaking out about abuse, see, e.g., https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/gymnast-gabby-douglas-apologizes-after-comment-about-sexual-abuse/.

OTOH, it seems fairly normal that people lose touch or tolerate their teammates while they have to, but move on with their lives once their time on the team has finished.

 

[canbelto]

Well, Gabby did make victim-blaming comments after Raisman began publicly speaking out about abuse, see, e.g., https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/gymnast-gabby-douglas-apologizes-after-comment-about-sexual-abuse/.

OTOH, it seems fairly normal that people lose touch or tolerate their teammates while they have to, but move on with their lives once their time on the team has finished.

Well Gabby herself was a victim. It's sad but a lot of SA victims blame each other. The damage is deep.

 

[Tesla]

So you can adjust- it’s 8:10 EDT.

That’s why I said I’m in CT. I knew EST was wrong but didn’t know the correct abbreviation.

 

[skatfan]

OTOH, it seems fairly normal that people lose touch or tolerate their teammates while they have to, but move on with their lives once their time on the team has finished.

Agreed, no one is required to maintain relationships. It’s just a bit sad to me that 4 of the “fierce five” remain close while Gabby isn’t.

 

[skatfan]

@haribobo - Why leave out the decimal points? It doesn’t match anything else we’re going to read (MyUSAGym for example).

 

[haribobo]

I'm not doing it for matching, its just something I dashed off as a quick reference guide. Take it or leave it, whatever.

 

[Frau Muller]

Here is the running order of tonight’s performers:

https://static.usagym.org/PDFs/Results/2024/w_24trials_start2.pdf

There are 13 gymnasts in the mix, after the three injured ones pulled out or unable to fully compete on Day One. (Shilese & Kayla still on the list but very low.)

MyUSAGym

 

[Coco]

Interesting. I can't imagine how much a balance beam could really vary. It's still got to be the same height, width and length. Bar tension could definitely be a very different matter for both the women and men.

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I posted a link from Courtney McGregor, NZ Olympian, describing how the beams are different.

 

[Karen-W]

Here is the running order of tonight’s performers:

https://static.usagym.org/PDFs/Results/2024/w_24trials_start2.pdf

There are 13 gymnasts in the mix, after the three injured ones pulled out.

Well, really, there are 9 gymnasts in the mix - Simone Rose, Evey Lowe, Zoey Molomo and Dulcy Caylor are here for experience.

 

[Theatregirl1122]

Well, really, there are 9 gymnasts in the mix - Simone Rose, Evey Lowe, Zoey Molomo and Dulcy Caylor are here for experience.

I think Hezly and Tiana probably were, too, until the last week.

 

[barbk]

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I posted a link from Courtney McGregor, NZ Olympian, describing how the beams are different.

Reading that, it is even LESS understandable why they aren't using that equipment for US Trials. Whover signed a sponsor contract without a provision of being able to use the equipment athletes will be using at the Olympics for trials needs to go back to negotiating school.