German Skating News 2019/2020

[Jeschke]

Good 8/20 plave finish for Gurdzhi with 178,54pts.
Very solid clean outing. He is still missing 3a, 3lz, 3f; 2f was in the program, maybe that should have been a triple.
Happy to see his reaction. I really liked his improvemts.

Luft/Schuster with 126,60pts and 11/18. I absolutely liked this FD. It's great music and a great concept, and the evil of me thinks: why it's waisted on them and not be given to Urban/Steffan (who i could have totally seen with that). She performs a lot, he looks better than in the RD here, still the overall heaviness and sloppiness is not my cup of tea.

I really miss Kazimov. I liked his style a lot. Is he still skating/having tryouts? Does anybody know?

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And off topic: Ilona Schindler looked better than ever!

 

[sandra_persch]

I really miss Kazimov. I liked his style a lot. Is he still skating/having tryouts? Does anybody know?
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And off topic: Ilona Schindler looked better than ever!

Do we know the name of Kazimov's new partner yet? Can't wait to see what they can achieve.

Schindler is getting an "assistant" with September 1st.

Nicole Brünner wird ab 01. September 2019 die neue Assistentin der Bundestrainerin Nachwuchs im Einzellaufen

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[Jeschke]

As it seems, Marold is going senior this season;
well, we will see if this is a clever move
She is entered for Nebelhorn alongside Schott and Bock. Nice to have Bock still hanging around.

Event Overview

4 men (Dimitrescu, Fentz, Stoll, Hess), Hase/Segert, 3 dance teams (Peterson/Pfisterer, Koch/Nüchtern, Urban/Steffan)
Nice german team, hope it stays that big for the audience.
No Pavlova/Blommaert, so obviosuly still some issues here.

I am pleased that with the new nomination criteria a lot of thoses skaters are going into head-to-heads; makes the selection more fair.

 

[Jeschke]

Crossposting; thanks for the news and links @Ka3sha

Krylova’s team had an open practice session and a press conference today.
Popova/Mozgov skated to Bohemian Rhapsody, Galyavieva/Thauron to Carmen, Muller/Dieck to It’s a Man’s Man’s Man’s World (by James Brown)
Here are some videos and a live stream:

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M/D FD is very likely to Coco Chanel OST; so, ehm, which musical/movie is 'It's a man's man's world' from?
Unfortunately, it seems, Müller's twizzles are still the same.

 

[Ka3sha]

M/D FD is very likely to Coco Chanel OST; so, ehm, which musical/movie is 'It's a man's man's world' from?

Well, maybe there’s a mistake and some other couple was skating to this song, but the camera showed M/D at that moment

 

[text_skate]

In taz (Wednesday's edition) is a follow-up article on situation in Oberstdorf/DEU/Fajfr with a lot of background, particularly on situation in Oberstdorf. The article uses the F. case as an opportunity to look at the officials and the fed.

Vorwürfe gegen Eiskunstlauftrainer: „So ist eben Fajfr“

Eiskunstlauftrainer Karel Fajfr wird von einigen seiner Sportler vom Vorwurf der Misshandlung entlastet. Andere Aussagen stärken die Anschuldigungen.

taz.de

There are statements pro F. Then there is vice-president Morath of ESC Oberstdorf, who is working to ban Droysen from the rink. According to article about Droysen:

whom he calls a "pathetic, personality-disturbed, pubescent youth."

Everyone who is critical of the controversial trainer in the taz insists on anonymity. A hobby sportsman justifies this with his wish not to get a house ban in the ice rink.

The sportman describes what he witnessed between Droysen and F. Basically confirming it.

A trainer from Oberstdorf tells the taz: "I hear F. yelling at the children during my work." An athlete who practices with another trainer confirms this: "When Mr. F. is in the hall, it is loud. I learned to hide that and concentrate on my performance. I say to myself: "That's how F. is."

And so it is not surprising that the criticism of F. comes from outside, more precisely from the German Ski Association. Its employee Florian Kuiper is managing director of the ski boarding school in Oberstdorf, where figure skaters also live. Karel F. has been banned there since 2008, says Florian Kuiper. There were incidents "which, from an educational and privacy point of view, could not be reconciled with our guiding principles and beliefs".

article tells F.'s version of things

What the ski association regards as a violation of its educational principles and privacy was not even debated in the German Ice Skating Union after taz research. The German Ice Skating Union left one question of the taz unanswered.

Kuiper hints at another recent accusation by an ice sportswoman against F. Since this is known, the ski boarding school no longer accepts F. students. He says: "I would be happy if the athlete had the courage to express herself".

excerpts with Deepl tranalator

 

[Jeschke]

Nationals have been re-scheduled.
New date: January, 2nd-3rd, 2020 in Oberstdorf.

Strange date, thursday and friday, one day after new years's eve. Who is sober one day after?

 

[alchemy void]

Strange date, thursday and friday, one day after new years's eve. Who is sober one day after?

I think that may be part of the strategy.

 

[sanni]

Does anybody know why it has been rescheduled?

 

[sus2850]

I guess to get in the holiday audience and make it easier for people who already visit for New Year‘s Eve or the ski jumping, also figure skating enthusiasts are there already for the gala show that usually happens on Dec 30th.

 

[Jeschke]

Hocke is spoiling us the last weeks with IG clips. I can’t help but am very excited and curious to see her debut with Kunkel in 2 weeks! I have really high hopes here!

 

[Jeschke]

Elodie Eudine finished 27th at JGP LAT SP. 34,73pts.

Elodie Eudine (GER)| Ladies Short Program | Riga 2019

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I don't comment (german fed's clever sub tactics ) amnd hope for herself she has a better FS.

 

[Jeschke]

Eudine finished 29th overall at JGP LIT (95,53pts). FS with 2 triples, no comment.

Elodie Eudine (GER)| Ladies Free Skating | Riga 2019

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Wolf/Liebers were a pleasant surprise to me. They finished 8th (130,44pts).
Smooth skating, they seemed secure. I still have problems with her 'open mouth' presentation during almost the entire program.

Anne-Marie Wolf / Max Liebers (GER)| Ice Dance Rhythm Dance | Riga 2019

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Anne-Marie Wolf / Max Liebers (GER)| Ice Dance Free Dance | Riga 2019

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[sandra_persch]

New Statement from the German Fed regarding Issaks case against Faifr

Zum Stand der Aufarbeitung im Fall Droysen – Fajfr

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They wanna do some seminars for Parents and coaches this season about what is acceptable and not. When to report etc.

 

[Jeschke]

Very rough outing for Starostin.
He cam in 16/22 with 143,83pts.
I like his skating but yeah
FS music is a total misfit imho.

Nikita Starostin (GER) | Men Short Program | Chelyabinsk 2019

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Nikita Starostin (GER) | Men Free Skating | Chelyabinsk 2019

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[Jeschke]

Hocke/Kunkel
SP: Wasting my young years (London Grammar)
FS: Dirty Dancing
Choreo by C. Papadakis, D. Savin, F. Schaerer

I think these are really good choices. I love the 'Wasting my young years' and 'Dirty Dancing' seems a really good fit for Hocke. Their latest practice clips looked awesome. I have a feeling they might be a big big surprise this weekend!

 

[Jeschke]

German Fed wants to host Europeans 2023 in Essen

Deutschland will Eiskunstlauf-EM ausrichten

Die Deutsche Eislauf-Union will sich mit dem Austragungsort Essen für die Eiskunstlauf-Europameisterschaften im Januar 2023 bewerben.

www.sport.de

Right now, there are no further candidates.
Oh yes. Keeping my fingers crossed.
But boy, Essen is some ugly not nice city

 

[Sabine-Yuna]

Hocke/Kunkel
SP: Wasting my young years (London Grammar)
FS: Dirty Dancing
Choreo by C. Papadakis, D. Savin, F. Schaerer

I think these are really good choices. I love the 'Wasting my young years' and 'Dirty Dancing' seems a really good fit for Hocke. Their latest practice clips looked awesome. I have a feeling they might be a big big surprise this weekend!

I like these music choices too. It would be nice if they would be able to show some of these great elements we have seen in Hockes clips, but I wouldn't expect to much after that short period of time they have had to prepare. Does anyone know if C. Papadakis is a relative of Gabriella Papadakis?

 

[Jeschke]

Does anyone know if C. Papadakis is a relative of Gabriella Papadakis?

Catherine. It's her mother.

 

[Jeschke]

but I wouldn't expect to much after that short period of time they have had to prepare

Keeping expectations low was never my thing

 

[Sabine-Yuna]

Keeping expectations low was never my thing

After I have seen the first competition of Zhuk/ Bidar who have teamed up around the same time as Hocke/ Kunkel I better do so.

 

[Jeschke]

New program announcements

Müller/Dieck
RD: Burlesque
FD: Coco Chanel

Marold
SP: Always remember us that way (Lady Gaga)

 

[Jeschke]

Junior pairs at JGP POL draw:

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[Jeschke]

JGP Gdansk updates:
Hocke/Kunkel sit in 3rd with 58,04pts (8pts lead over the teams behind them)

Annika Hocke / Robert Kunkel (GER) | Pairs Short Program | Gdansk 2019

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Overall it seemed still a bit sloppy and not perfectly timed; but no surprises here after that short amount of time.
Awesome look on both (stunning dress), but well, presentation, way to go for him and she has still her constant smile
This was a very good 1st outing, I was very curious and am still very excited. They really have potential and I hope this works out for them.
Medal is in reach! I said it way before this event already (and everyone laughed): #missionJGPF
(I guess german fed gives a big breathe of relief as they really need some good results lately)


Aya Hatakawa came in 17/36 with 43,34pts.

Aya Hatakawa (GER) | Ladies Short Program | Gdansk 2019

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Decent outing, shame about the fall on the lutz.

Louis Weissert, 17/26 with 50,61pts

Louis Weissert (GER) | Men Short Program | Gdansk 2019

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Well, you can't come here with 3t2t and 2a, sorry.

 

[Sera]

Nice to see Dastich on the entry list for Finlandia Trophy.

 

[Jeschke]

Nice to see Dastich on the entry list for Finlandia Trophy.

And Isaev. So for now, when Weinzierl comes back we almost have as much senior ladies entered for CS events, as skated at nationals last season

On a serious note: good for Bock and Dastich coming back

 

[Quadjump]

JGP Gdansk updates:
Hocke/Kunkel sit in 3rd with 58,04pts (8pts lead over the teams behind them)

Annika Hocke / Robert Kunkel (GER) | Pairs Short Program | Gdansk 2019

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Overall it seemed still a bit sloppy and not perfectly timed; but no surprises here after that short amount of time.
Awesome look on both (stunning dress), but well, presentation, way to go for him and she has still her constant smile
This was a very good 1st outing, I was very curious and am still very excited. They really have potential and I hope this works out for them.
Medal is in reach! I said it way before this event already (and everyone laughed): #missionJGPF
(I guess german fed gives a big breathe of relief as they really need some good results lately)

In mybook this was a super outing! 3Tw and 3FTh in first competition! I am super excited

Robert was suprised by 58 points. But is was worth it and there is so much room left for improvement.

 

[Miezekatze]

German Fed wants to host Europeans 2023 in Essen

Deutschland will Eiskunstlauf-EM ausrichten

Die Deutsche Eislauf-Union will sich mit dem Austragungsort Essen für die Eiskunstlauf-Europameisterschaften im Januar 2023 bewerben.

www.sport.de

Right now, there are no further candidates.
Oh yes. Keeping my fingers crossed.
But boy, Essen is some ugly not nice city

Can compete with Gelsenkirchen in terms of attractivity

But it would still be cool to have a bigger event in Germany.

 

[Jeschke]

Fentz has been crossed off the Nebelhorn roster.
Any news why? Injured again? Still?

 

[Golden1]

Not really skating news but maybe relevant for our (Germany's) skating future : According to her instagram stories Aljona and Liam had their baby girl Amilia on September 7! The baby came a month early but they seemed to be in a very good mood on their way to the hospital, so everything seems to be fine. Congrats Aljona and Liam!