German Skating News 2017/2018

[haribobo]

-had a foot before Minsk

OMG WHAT HAPPENED IN MINSK???

 

[text_skate]

OMG WHAT HAPPENED IN MINSK???

injury

 

[Jeschke]

In an article in local newspaper Mannheimer Morgen (behind "pay wall", cache) Nathalie Weinzierl talks about her future plans:
-not retiring, in for the next quad, fighting for German title this year

Saw that one not coming.
Like the attitude

 

[alchemy void]

not retiring, in for the next quad, fighting for German title this year

Hell yes! Thank you so much for the update. I hope she can get the equilibrium issues under control. That does not sound fun.

She’s off to a good start today!

 

[Jeschke]

Nationals Day 1:

Schott leading Weinzierl
H/S leading H/B
Fentz leads the race by 10pts to Liebers

And now I am ready for the dance drama!

 

[SmallFairy]

What a good day for me!

#teamfentz
#haseseegertsoftspot

 

[Quadjump]

Can somebody please tell Nicole to do the Loop in the first half. She does not stop falling.

 

[Jeschke]

Can somebody please tell Nicole to do the Loop in the first half. She does not stop falling.

She lands it way later in the FS; in the interview she told it's all mental.
But I admit, I kinda agree with you, it does not really seem to work.

 

[Jeschke]

#juniorrace update

Men:
183,27 Jonathan Hess (Cup of Tyrol 183,27)
172,39 Dennis Gurdzhi (Santa Claus Cup 172,39)
161,54 Isaak Droysen (Cup of Tyrol 161,54)
153,41 Kai Jagoda (Tallinn Trophy 153,41)
150,09 Daniel Sapoznikov (Santa Claus Cup 150,09)
146,12 Louis Weissert (Cup of Tyrol 146,12)

Ladies:
146,55 Lea Johanna Dastich (JGP CRO 146,55)
143,01 Ann-Christin Marold (Cup of Tyrol 143,01)
131,05 Franziska Kettl (Golden Spin of Zagreb 131,05)
121,35 Tiffany Klaunig (Cup of Tyrol 121,05)
120,88 Lutricia Bock (Cup of Nice 120,88)
118,42 Nicole Calderari (Cup of Tyrol 118,42)
116,67 Linn Jörgensen (Cup of Tyrol 116,67)
115,67 Carolin Hess (Cup of Tyrol 115,67)
110,60 Catharina Hausladen (Cup of Tyrol 110,60)
103,66 Laura Morath (Cup of Tyrol 103,66)
101,03 Sabrina Weis (Skate Celje 101,03)
88,24 Kristina Isaev (JGP LAT 88,24)
87,97 Lea Schwamberger (Cup of Tyrol 87,97)
83,10 Maelle Oberländer (Cup of Tyrol 83,10)

Pairs:
138,64 Talisa Thomalla / Robert Kunkel (JGP POL 138,64)

Ice Dance
251,83 Ria Schwendinger / Valentin Wunderlich (Open d'Andorra 126,98; Nationals 124,85)
221,30 Charise Matthaei / Maximilian Pfisterer (Golden Spin of Zagreb 109,36; Nationals 111,94)*
212,68 Lara Luft / Asaf Kazimov (Santa Claus Cup 109,55; Nationals 103,13 )*
207,22 Sabrina Bittner / Andrej Lebed (International Halloween Cup 110,60; Nationals 96,62)
170,19 Anne-Marie Wolf / Max Liebers (Open d'Andorra 86,11; Nationals 84,08)*
158,53 Julia Albrecht / Kai Hoferichter (Santa Claus Cup 78,10; Nationals 80,43 )*

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* still in need of meeting fed criteria

 

[Jeschke]

#Olympicrace Men Final Standing
645,36 Paul Fentz (Nationals 231,60; CS FIN 212,16; GP CAN 201,60)
625,76 Peter Liebers (CS EST 210,28; CS CAN 207,89; Nationals 207,59)

Nationals Podium
1. Paul Fentz 231,60
2. Peter Liebers 207,59pts
3. Catalin Dimitrescu 173,42pts

 

[Quadjump]

Fentz looked shocked after the high scores appeared but then he seemed to be very satisfied .

I will be very please if he changes the costume. Looks kind of tacky to Game of thrones.

 

[Jeschke]

#OlympicRace Pairs Final Standing
Medal at GP Aliona Savchenko / Bruno Massot
517,67 Annika Hocke / Ruben Blommaert (CS GER 180,37; CS BLR 172,64; Nationals 164,66)

Nationals Podium
1. Aliona Savchenko/Bruno Massot 229,38pts
2. Minerva-Fabienne Hase/Nolan Seegert 168,99pts
3. Annika Hocke/Ruben Blommaert 164,66pts

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I am still very sad, that H/S don't get a chance for worlds; they lead the head-to-head with H/B 2-1 now this season and placed higher at nationals.
H/B got the home advantage competition in Oberstdorf, where they skated great and got the home bonus (and the main lead for the race). No home bonus competition for H/S.
I can't understand why there might be a re-evaluation for the dance worlds spot depending on the euros results, but none for pairs. This just seems not fair to me.

 

[Quadjump]

Yeah. Hase/Blommert has fallen off in quality during the season. So there should be a possibility for Hase/Seegert to go to worlds!

Aljona and Bruno. This FS is unbelieveable. Even with this two mistakes this program is simply out of this world. Just memorizing.

The commentator ask Aljona about the level 4 twists issues. Goodness. This question would not have been ask if Michael Weiss had not talked about it during GPF. What a good commentary can produce!

 

[clairecloutier]

I agree with you @Jeschke and @Quadjump about the German pairs. Hocke/Blommaert had that great early showing at Nebelhorn, but since then they’ve basically been trending downward, while Hase/Seegert have trended upward.

With the quad twist level issues, it’s something S/M fans have been talking about for a while. I think it’s the split that’s the issue. You need a fantastic split these days to get level 4, it seems. ETA: what did Aliona say about it?

 

[Dobre]

I am still very sad, that H/S don't get a chance for worlds; they lead the head-to-head with H/B 2-1 now this season and placed higher at nationals.
H/B got the home advantage competition in Oberstdorf, where they skated great and got the home bonus (and the main lead for the race). No home bonus competition for H/S.
I can't understand why there might be a re-evaluation for the dance worlds spot depending on the euros results, but none for pairs. This just seems not fair to me.

It's the problem with using different competitions in order to select athletes, for sure.

I don't understand how Europeans could be used to reevaluate dance. Germany only has one spot in the dance event there, don't they?

 

[Jeschke]

I don't understand how Europeans could be used to reevaluate dance. Germany only has one spot in the dance event there, don't they?

Yeah, but fed mentioned in criteria, if the team heading to euros does not finish top12, there might be a re-evaluation for worlds.
That's what I mentioned as unfair, as there is nothing like that in pairs.

 

[Dobre]

Yeah, but fed mentioned in criteria, if the team heading to euros does not finish top12, there might be a re-evaluation for worlds.

Still makes no sense. There'd be no evidence that the other team has a better chance of finishing top 12. I suppose it would leave the German Fed open to sending a less experienced team to Europeans--giving them the opportunity at Euros if they earn it and then snatching it away if they did more poorly than Lorenz & Polizoakis have over the last couple seasons. If L&P go, though, I don't see any way Euros can be used to reevaluate. Muller & Dieck have really just started besting real players on the senior scene this year.

3? French teams
3 Russian teams
2 Italian teams
1 British team
1 Danish team
1 Spanish team
1 Polish team
1 Ukrainian team
1 Turkish team
1 Hungarian team

Those are your other players, I think. Lots of teams. It won't be easy. (Also Euros are in Russia and several of the lower teams are half Russian). But Germany could make top 12.

 

[casken]

#Olympicrace Men Final Standing
645,36 Paul Fentz (Nationals 231,60; CS FIN 212,16; GP CAN 201,60)
625,76 Peter Liebers (CS EST 210,28; CS CAN 207,89; Nationals 207,59)

Nationals Podium
1. Paul Fentz 231,60
2. Peter Liebers 207,59pts
3. Catalin Dimitrescu 173,42pts

So is that it, Fentz is going to the Olympics?

Does Liebers gets worlds, or is this the end of his career?

 

[Jeschke]

So is that it, Fentz is going to the Olympics?

According to the rules, yes.

Does Liebers gets worlds, or is this the end of his career?

Worlds spot goes to the best finisher at euros, where Liebers has qualified.
If he goes on, who knows now he missed olympics.

 

[SmallFairy]

According to the rules, yes.

Is it settled, or does he have to show some specific result at Euros?

 

[Jeschke]

Is it settled, or does he have to show some specific result at Euros?

Settled!

 

[SmallFairy]

Settled!

Like x infinity!!

 

[casken]

According to the rules, yes.


Worlds spot goes to the best finisher at euros, where Liebers has qualified.
If he goes on, who knows now he missed olympics.

Oh, I thought you said before that Olympics/worlds would be split based on Nationals. I guess I was confused.

 

[Jeschke]

#Olympicrace Ladies Final Standing
518,97 Nicole Schott (Nationals 177,86; GP FRA 172,39; GP RUS 168,72)
475,46 Lea Johanna Dastich (Nationals 162,42, CS CRO 157,44; CS EST 155,60)
322,30 Nathalie Weinzierl (Nationals 166,45pts; CS GER 155,85)
135,88 Lutricia Bock (CS BLR 135,88)*

Nationals podium:
1. Nicole Schott 177,86pts
2. Nathalie Weinzierl 166,45pts
3. Lea Johanna Dastich 162,42pts

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* not met fed criteria

 

[Jeschke]

Oh, I thought you said before that Olympics/worlds would be split based on Nationals. I guess I was confused.

No, that was my wish for dance and men (if fentz would not have made it to olympics )

 

[Jeschke]

#Olympicrace Ice Dance Final Standing
467,99 Kavita Lorenz / Joti Polizoakis (Nationals 165,07; CS GER 152,50; CS CRO 150,42)
457,82 Katharina Müller / Tim Dieck (Nationals 158,66; CS POL 150,14; CS CRO 149,02)
434,33 Shari Koch / Christian Nüchtern (Nationals 156,17; CS CRO 141,18; CS SVK 136,98)
435,26 Jennifer Urban / Benjamin Steffan (CS EST 139,44; Nationals 136,33; CS FIN 128,59)

Nationals podium:
1. Kavita Lorenz/Joti Polizoakis
2. Katharina Müller/Tim Dieck 158,66pts
3. Shari Koch/Christian Nüchtern 156,17pts

 

[Quadjump]

Koch/Nüchtern really impressed me. Dramatic skate.

Müller/Dieck´s presentation was too powerful. He exaggerated with everything. But nevertheless nice to have such a great dance field.

 

[Jeschke]

Koch/Nüchtern really impressed me. Dramatic skate.
.

Absolutely! Best FD for me!

 

[sandra_persch]

Euros team is confirmed!

Lets hope Liebers really goes and doesnt decide to retire until after the Olympics.

Dastich debuting alongside experienced Schott.
Really like the split with Dastich doing Euros abd Junior Worlds and Schott getting Euros and Olympics.

Goess its a bit much to ask for right now to hope r
for a 3rd Euros pairs spot for next season.

 

[Sylvia]

Euros team is confirmed!

http://www.muensterschezeitung.de/S...kunstlaeufer-Fentz-erstmals-deutscher-Meister
Google translated excerpts:

"Paul has earned the Olympic starting position," said Liebers, who was disappointed with the missed ticket to the Winter Games. The Olympic Eighth of Sochi will accompany Fentz to Moscow at the end of his career at the European Championships in January.

"We really did not have any strength today. The audience helped us to get such a performance, "said Savchenko. Hocke / Blommaert will accompany the exceptional pair to EM and Olympia for better upfront performance.

Nicole Schott triumphed for the third time. ... The 17-year-old Lea Johanna Dastich (162.42) from Dresden as third will fly to Moscow in January, just like Schott.
Schott was already the only starter for the Olympics before the title fights. "It is an incredible feeling, it is the dream of every athlete to come to Olympia," said the graceful runner, who was satisfied with her freestyle score on Schindler's list.

As in the previous year, the Oberstdorfer Kavita Lorenz and Panagiotis Polizoakis put in the ice dance with 165.07 points ahead of Katharina Müller / Tim Dieck (Berlin / Dortmund / 158.66) and secured the starting place at the Winter Games in February. "That was very emotional because we were so under pressure," Lorenz said after the successful lecture on "Pride and Prejudice." "Now I'm superhappy."