From Russia with Love [#35]: Winter 2019

[Gris]

Daniil Gleichengauz: composers need to work faster, because we do a lot of new programs, and they write not so much new music

Daniil Gleichengauz commented on performances of his athletes at the Grand Prix Final, explained what were the reasons for the development of quads in ladies' single skating, talked about his love for ballet and creation of new programs.

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There are many students in your group, how do you manage to do different programs for everyone?

– This is the most difficult. I am ready to appeal to musicians to compose more new music faster, because for example I used almost all of compositions of such composers such as Max Richter, Dario Marianelli. They need to work faster, because we do a lot of new programs, and they write not so much new music.

I hope he was just trolling.

 

[Tinami Amori]

I don’t care who they sent last time. I commented on who I noticed they sent now. All the skaters who did best in JGPF.

Vasilieva and Sinitsina were not "selected and ordered" to go and skate. The Feds looked at who is available and willing, and these two were best ones of the available and willing. and that's all i said.

 

[Lana's Box]

I am afraid you’re confusing literacy with intelligence.

Oh no, I am not confusing anything. I was simply speaking of something slightly different - the overall level of education and skaters' abilities to express themselves. In the context of specific challenges that Russian language presents to even a native speaker. Literacy alone is not enough to write and speak well. The more you read, the better you speak and spell. But I digress. I think we are making the same point, from slightly different perspectives.

 

[Tinami Amori]

I hope he was just trolling.

He said it half-joking, in this sentiment: "I am ready to beg composers to write more new music faster".

And the heading of this interview, as it is posted on FS-gossip is not correct, a bit twisted to be "funny".
The issue starts with jumps and a lot more, the "music" comes up later in the lighter portion of the interview, towards the end.

The original heading is: Daniil Gleikhengauz "I think, that first of all, the coaches need to break the barrier in their minds that ladies are able to do quads".

Original interview. a bit longer and more detailed (imo).

Даниил Глейхенгауз: «Мне кажется, прежде всего тренерам нужно было перешагнуть в голове через барьер, что девочки могут прыгать четверные»

Даниил Глейхенгауз – тренер и хореограф группы Этери Тутберидзе после финала Гран-при, отвечая на вопросы зарубежных журналистов, прокомментировал выступления подопечных в Турине, объяснил, что

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[Nadya]

You might not be familiar with the intricacies of Russian spelling and punctuation. While Russian doesn’t quite compare to the convolutions of English spelling, it has an amazing number of pitfalls which make quite a few of my academic friends fail to spell or punctuate things correctly.
So I’d be more lenient towards those who, frankly speaking, got very patchy secondary education to start with. Very few Russian skaters would pass a spelling test, I suppose.

Plushenko, as a matter of fact, spells correctly. But his perfectly spelled comments are still thuggish.

 

[Fairuza]

Plushenko, as a matter of fact, spells correctly. But his perfectly spelled comments are still thuggish.

He’s surely a no-nonsense man. It being interpreted as “thuggish” is arguable, though - he’s just speaking the language our leaders have been using for quite a while. We’re not a culture known for our niceties and fineries of expression - bluntness is our middle name.
That one day I identify myself with anything Russian...

 

[Lana's Box]

Plushenko is not thuggish. It's not fair to put the label on him. Most people here can't judge for themselves; throwing words like that around is not right. More like nouvaeau rich and tacky. His communication style leaves a lot to be desired - it's in your face. I don't like it. But Plushenko is honest and doesn't compromise his values. The fact that he supported the LGBT community when it was a dangerous thing to do in Russia speaks volumes about him. But yes, he is rough around the edges.

 

[zebraswan]

Plushenko is not thuggish. It's not fair to put the label on him. Most people here can't judge for themselves; throwing words like that around is not right. More like nouvaeau rich and tacky. His communication style leaves a lot to be desired - it's in your face. I don't like it. But Plushenko is honest and doesn't compromise his values. The fact that he supported the LGBT community when it was a dangerous thing to do in Russia speaks volumes about him. But yes, he is rough around the edges.

Doesn't compromise his values, really? Is he still friends with Ramzan Kadyrov? What a friend to the LGBT community...

 

[Lana's Box]

Doesn't compromise his values, really? Is he still friends with Ramzan Kadyrov? What a friend to the LGBT community...

Plushenko could have kept his mouth shut and he didn't. It's more than can be said of most Russian athletes. As far as the bizzare photo with Kadyrov (the head of Chechen republic and violently anti-gay), I can't defend that. One thing I will say, Plush is not the sharpest knife in the drawer. The type to take a picture with any famous face and not think much about it.

 

[Ka3sha]

Am not sure if the videos are geoblocked or not, but Channel 1 posted few 'behind the scenes' videos with Russian athletes and coaches from GPF

Наша команда в финале Гран-при: искренние эмоции, дружеская поддержка и супер-мастерство

Фигуристы сборной России выиграли 12 медалей в финале Гран-при сезона-19/20. Дмитрий Алиев, Александра Бойкова и Дмитрий Козловский, Алина Загитова, Алена Ко...

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Косторная, Щербакова, Трусова и Загитова в финале Гран-при: что осталось за кадром

Алена Косторная стала победительницей Финала Гран-при по фигурному катанию. Анна Щербакова заняла второе место, Александра Трусова — третье. Тренировки перед...

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[text_skate]

Am not sure if the videos are geoblocked or not, but Channel 1 posted few 'behind the scenes' videos with Russian athletes and coaches

Наша команда в финале Гран-при: искренние эмоции, дружеская поддержка и супер-мастерство

Фигуристы сборной России выиграли 12 медалей в финале Гран-при сезона-19/20. Дмитрий Алиев, Александра Бойкова и Дмитрий Козловский, Алина Загитова, Алена Ко...

www.youtube.com

Косторная, Щербакова, Трусова и Загитова в финале Гран-при: что осталось за кадром

Алена Косторная стала победительницей Финала Гран-при по фигурному катанию. Анна Щербакова заняла второе место, Александра Трусова — третье. Тренировки перед...

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Not geoblocked in Germany

 

[Jeschke]

Am not sure if the videos are geoblocked or not, but Channel 1 posted few 'behind the scenes' videos with Russian athletes and coaches from GPF

Thanks Katia.
Love it. Some awesome camera stuff here!

 

[happycamper2554]

The stuff they picked for S/K is interesting to me. I'm not quite sure what they are going for.

 

[Ka3sha]

MatchTV interview with Apolnaria Panfilova/Dmitry Rylov

Отношения в паре, прыжки и Нейтан Чен как пример для подражания. Большое интервью Аполлинарии Панфиловой — Дмитрия Рылова

Они собрали все медали финала Гран-при, а через неделю выступят на чемпионате России в Красноярске.

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They are planning to stay in juniors for one more season

 

[rfisher]

MatchTV interview with Apolnaria Panfilova/Dmitry Rylov

Отношения в паре, прыжки и Нейтан Чен как пример для подражания. Большое интервью Аполлинарии Панфиловой — Дмитрия Рылова

Они собрали все медали финала Гран-при, а через неделю выступят на чемпионате России в Красноярске.

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They are planning to stay in juniors for one more season

I hope that plan includes her getting the SBS triple jumps.

 

[PRlady]

He’s surely a no-nonsense man. It being interpreted as “thuggish” is arguable, though - he’s just speaking the language our leaders have been using for quite a while. We’re not a culture known for our niceties and fineries of expression - bluntness is our middle name.
That one day I identify myself with anything Russian...

Out of nowhere I just got Chanukah greetings from a Russian sociologist I met at our meeting last summer on my work email. Very nice of her. Both in Israel and here, I’ve noticed that once a Russian likes you, they are loyal and caring friends. In my case in Israel, not only was I an American but a leftie, and yet Russian immigrants I met socially or casually overlooked my unfortunate antecedents and we communicated in our bad Hebrew with enthusiasm and curiosity. This was especially true in shopping experiences!

I just wish Russia as a country could escape its tradition of authoritarian and corrupt leadership and do more for its people. But then I think I’m going to have to wish the same for my own countries these days.

 

[Ka3sha]

The stuff they picked for S/K is interesting to me. I'm not quite sure what they are going for.

What’s interesting about the stuff Channel 1 picked for them?

 

[happycamper2554]

What’s interesting about the stuff Channel 1 picked for them?

It wasnt a lot of them skating.

 

[Ka3sha]

I just wish Russia as a country could escape its tradition of authoritarian and corrupt leadership and do more for its people. But then I think I’m going to have to wish the same for my own countries these days.

Then Russia wouldn’t be Russia.
I could be wrong and it’s a question for a long discussion that is not suited for this thread, but as someone who got a degree in history, I’d say that tradition of authoritarian and corruption are a part of Russian mentality that ha been shaping for a long time, starting from 12-13th centuries..
It had been better or worse from time to time, but these two things had always been present in Russian history.

On a way more skating related note, Russian Nationals with Ted Barton’s commentary will be broadcasted on Channel 1 Youtube channel. The direct link will appear only on Wednesday, but it will be somewhere here:

Первый канал

Официальная страница Первого канала. Полные выпуски самых популярных проектов, анонсы, подробности о премьерах телесезона, видео со съемочных площадок телепр...

youtube.com

 

[hanca]

On a way more skating related note, Russian Nationals with Ted Barton’s commentary will be broadcasted on Channel 1 Youtube channel. The direct link will appear only on Wednesday, but it will be somewhere here:

Первый канал

Официальная страница Первого канала. Полные выпуски самых популярных проектов, анонсы, подробности о премьерах телесезона, видео со съемочных площадок телепр...

youtube.com

Could Ted Barton be a bit more lime Tarasova? To give it more life? Pleeease....

 

[Lana's Box]

Then Russia wouldn’t be Russia.
I could be wrong and it’s a question for a long discussion that is not suited for this thread, but as someone who got a degree in history, I’d say that tradition of authoritarian and corruption are a part of Russian mentality that ha been shaping for a long time, starting from 12-13th centuries..
It had been better or worse from time to time, but these two things had always been present in Russian history.

Not to derail the thread, but I find this aspect of our history fascinating. It's such a part of who we are as a nation, yet people's desire for freedom is strong. I hope I live to see some changes....

 

[Nadya]

Plushenko is not thuggish. It's not fair to put the label on him. Most people here can't judge for themselves; throwing words like that around is not right. More like nouvaeau rich and tacky. His communication style leaves a lot to be desired - it's in your face. I don't like it. But Plushenko is honest and doesn't compromise his values. The fact that he supported the LGBT community when it was a dangerous thing to do in Russia speaks volumes about him. But yes, he is rough around the edges.

None of us knows Plushenko the man, but that his recent comment sound thuggish isn't really a matter of interpretation. I mean you can be in your face without calling your opponent a dumbass dripping in shit. No native speaker would have any doubts reading what he wrote.

 

[Nadya]

Out of nowhere I just got Chanukah greetings from a Russian sociologist I met at our meeting last summer on my work email. Very nice of her. Both in Israel and here, I’ve noticed that once a Russian likes you, they are loyal and caring friends. In my case in Israel, not only was I an American but a leftie, and yet Russian immigrants I met socially or casually overlooked my unfortunate antecedents and we communicated in our bad Hebrew with enthusiasm and curiosity. This was especially true in shopping experiences!

I just wish Russia as a country could escape its tradition of authoritarian and corrupt leadership and do more for its people. But then I think I’m going to have to wish the same for my own countries these days.

Without authoritarian, corrupt leadership our sense of humor that you all love so much would dissipate - what would we have left to mock or get cynical about?

 

[Lana's Box]

None of us knows Plushenko the man, but that his recent comment sound thuggish isn't really a matter of interpretation. I mean you can be in your face without calling your opponent a dumbass dripping in shit. No native speaker would have any doubts reading what he wrote.

Nadya, are you under the impression that what you write is not thuggish?

IMO, what both Team Tutberidze and Plushenko wrote was classless and unnecessary.

 

[Nadya]

He’s surely a no-nonsense man. It being interpreted as “thuggish” is arguable, though - he’s just speaking the language our leaders have been using for quite a while. We’re not a culture known for our niceties and fineries of expression - bluntness is our middle name.
That one day I identify myself with anything Russian...

You can be blunt without sounding like a recently released convict.

 

[Nadya]

Nadya, are you under the impression that what you write is not thuggish?

IMO, what both Team Tutberidze and Plushenko wrote was classless and unnecessary.

I'm simply translating what he wrote, so take it up with the source if that's your pleasure.

 

[TAHbKA]

What’s interesting about the stuff Channel 1 picked for them?

Me!

 

[Regretla]

It wasnt a lot of them skating.

They were the only off ice couple competing there, 1tv are romantics at heart

 

[Lana's Box]

I'm simply translating what he wrote, so take it up with the source if that's your pleasure.

Your translation could not be anymore crude if you tried. But to each their own.

 

[Nadya]

Your translation could not be anymore crude if you tried. But to each their own.

Why change the original?