From Russia with love [#27]: Summer 2017

[Vash01]

Are there any junior pairs with promise left in Russia? I am seriously concerned because Russian pairs used to be considered very stable. For the last 3-4 years it has been hard to find any continuity. They split even after winning medals at junior worlds. Every time they start with a new partner, there is big uncertainty. Very often it's the female partner that is left out in the cold.

 

[Marta24]

Are there any junior pairs with promise left in Russia? I am seriously concerned because Russian pairs used to be considered very stable. For the last 3-4 years it has been hard to find any continuity. They split even after winning medals at junior worlds. Every time they start with a new partner, there is big uncertainty. Very often it's the female partner that is left out in the cold.

There are still Boikova/Kozlovskii.

 

[Tinami Amori]

If we were to go around judging people based on their internet activity, I'd have to say you have suspiciously too much time on your hands to watch and take notes of someone you consider so unworthy, wouldn't I.

… not a wise comment about a virtual poster, given you don’t know the age and financial situation in one’s life; while we do know Davankova is 19, the time to build one's future, not squander it...

I am lazy, I have pets only by proxy, I like sweets and travelling too, all these sins didn't prevent me from getting an MD and a PhD.

.....then surely at 19 you were not exactly idle and useless……

And I know for a fact that in Russia, unlike many other countries, for every 5-6 girls whose biggest ambition is to be a housewife, there are hundreds of women who are educated and competent, and none of them watches Vasilisa's vlog or whatever it is she has. Why they don't apply to work in your company, I have no idea.

… because such women already have good careers?....

 

[Dobre]

It seems that Atakhanova/Spiridonov have split up.

They were my favorite junior pair last season.

 

[hanca]

Are there any junior pairs with promise left in Russia? I am seriously concerned because Russian pairs used to be considered very stable. For the last 3-4 years it has been hard to find any continuity. They split even after winning medals at junior worlds. Every time they start with a new partner, there is big uncertainty. Very often it's the female partner that is left out in the cold.

I wouldn't be that concerned because all three junior pairs that medalled at the junior worlds were skating together relatively short time (for all of them it was their first competitive season), so that proves that if the right skaters meet, the results can be pretty quick

 

[Alilou]

So essentially @Tinami Amori you think your suggestions could save Davankova from herself. How very altruistic of you

 

[alchemy void]

US pairs depth > RUS pairs depth

 

[Bellanca]

US pairs depth > RUS pairs depth

The truth hurts.

 

[Meoima]

I guess in some countries with less choices they would have to stick together and skate together as they have no one else to skate with.

 

[analia]

Genuine question: which US junior pairs team is worth paying attention to? I don't recall seeing any good pair last season.

 

[hanca]

US pairs depth > RUS pairs depth

Quantity maybe, quality not.

 

[zebraswan]

A message from Vasilisa to Tinami Amori:

https://media.tenor.com/images/d075de19f2d6e324dd5a1fd5ae339740/tenor.gif

This fixation you have with her is really kind of creepy.

 

[binbinwinwin]

Is Ustimkina/Volodin still together? I tried searching it up but couldn't find anything.

 

[Sylvia]

Genuine question: which US junior pairs team is worth paying attention to? I don't recall seeing any good pair last season.

My genuine answer: Liu/Johnson in their final junior international season. However, their best result (JGP bronze) came early in the season: http://www.isuresults.com/events/cat00028707.htm

ETA:

I'm also sorry to hear about Atakhanova/Spiridonov's split. Perhaps their inconsistency in competition (absolutely brilliant to moments) was something that necessitated a change.

Oh no. Sorry to hear this ... they had great potential together. It was a challenging season for them, but their performance in the free skate at Junior Worlds showed what they were capable of.

Their first place FS at Junior Worlds (no commentary): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oZM7bgEXtk

 

[adelia]

Is Ustimkina/Volodin still together? I tried searching it up but couldn't find anything.

They are. And off the ice they are an item too.

 

[allezfred]

Well this is disappointing:

https://instagram.com/p/BWneCUBl6li/

 

[Tinami Amori]

A message from Vasilisa to Tinami Amori:

https://media.tenor.com/images/d075de19f2d6e324dd5a1fd5ae339740/tenor.gif

This fixation you have with her is really kind of creepy.

Women’s equality. I don’t want Davankova to fall back in notoriety behind Morozov, who gets 20 pages of critique each time he says a word or moves a finger. I am an altruist, all heart…

 

[hanca]

Is Ustimkina/Volodin still together? I tried searching it up but couldn't find anything.

Yes, at the moment. But we can't take anything for granted. As Pavlova just showed us, pairs can split up even a few weeks before the test skates.

I am still not getting Pavlova's strategy. If she split Atakhanova/Spiridonov and Kudriavtseva/Simenenko in March after junior worlds, Atakhanova and Simenenko would have plenty of time to find new partners (and would have a bigger choice of available partners). For example, Atakhanova could have tried with Mirzoev, if that would work out. But Pavlova waited until both teams had programs made, practised, and then makes the decision just a few weeks before the test skates. To me it sounds like a ridiculous strategy.

 

[caseyedwards]

Well this is disappointing:

https://instagram.com/p/BWneCUBl6li/

What horrible overalls!

 

[AxelAnnie]

More like terrifying.

 

[allezfred]

What horrible overalls!

They would almost distract you from the mass murderer of gay men standing beside him.

 

[Eislauffan]

They would almost distract you from the mass murderer of gay men standing beside him.

Gay men and lots of other people, too! This creep is a disgrace for Russia.

 

[Tinami Amori]

They would almost distract you from the mass murderer of gay men standing beside him.

...... and rapist, women abuser, polygamist, dictator, blackmailer, thief, hypocrite, murderer of many, and big threat to Russian society and even to Putin, who knows it, but for now finds use for him to keep Chechnya intact.

 

[Sylvia]

It seems that Atakhanova/Spiridonov have split up. Atakhanova is on Russian ice partner search.
https://tulup.ru/partnerview2931.html

Also IPS now: http://icepartnersearch.com/showbio.php?i=5987

 

[lala]

Well this is disappointing:

https://instagram.com/p/BWneCUBl6li/

I agree with you.. Not only disappointing but very sad.
I read this comment:
"I'm sure the Russian media didn't write about the concentration camp... the Russians want to peace with Chechens and they don't want terrorists from Chechnya.."

Plushenko has many gay friends not only Johnny, but Russians, too. He signed a peticion against the anti Russian gay law. He said the gays have right to be in modern societies. I was so proud of him. He was the only one Russian figure skater who did it!
Nikolai Baskov the famous singer is there. And Baskov is gay. Unbelieveable!

You all know how I like and respect Plushenko but this picture made me angry!!!! He is a world famous person many people are seeing what he is doing! He has responsibility!

 

[lala]

https://www.sports.ru/figure-skating/1052910068.html interesting no one translated it..
Alexei Yagudin: "It can not be that one country has won over many years"
Olympic champion Alexei Yagudin shared his opinion about the reasons for Russia's weak results in men's skating in recent years.

- Now Asian ball skaters rule the ball. There is even a theory that in this they are helped by the structure of the body, slightly different from the European, - a thinner bone, a little weight.

- Really? Did the Asians look different 15 years ago? Have they changed in the body?

On the question of Russian male soloists, I have no answer - I'm not interested in amateur figure skating.

This is not a paradox. The reason is that there were times when Russia won a lot, and then someone else came. It can not be that one country has won over the years.

In other states, too, people are engaged in figure skating, and now it's time to come. After them, the time of Russians will come again. There is no need to look for a cause in the body. We have schools, everything works fine, there is simply nothing stable in this world, "Yagudin said. -google translate

 

[clairecloutier]

Sorry to be ignorant, but who is that in the picture with Plushenko?

 

[lala]

Sorry to be ignorant, but who is that in the picture with Plushenko?

Ramzan Kadyrov - president of Chechnya
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramzan_Kadyrov I do not know how much news is about it in Russian media.

 

[clairecloutier]

Thank you. I've read about him, but had not seen his picture.

Yes, that is disappointing ...

 

[lala]

Thank you. I've read about him, but had not seen his picture.

Yes, that is disappointing ...

I think the Russians don't believe the western media. The western media write about the Sochi doping scandal, the bad infrastuctura in Sochi OG, their antidemocratic state, Putin's antidemocratic measures, according to western media Putin won with election fraud, etc.
Kadyrov is a great man in most of the Russians' eyes who has great connect with Russia; no war, no independence intent, no terrorism.
Interesting Emanuel Sandhu was with Plushenko in Chechnya in last autumn. They made a great ice show for the birthday of Grozny city. I heard about the persecution of gays in this year.