Fans are really getting out of hand

The Michelle L. Kwan Day originated from Old Goat on Tara World. I think he lived in Arizona and they were the last state to observe MLK Day so he wasn't familiar with it. And was upset that Michelle had her own day. :rofl:

The Dagobytes music thing could have been 2001/2002. I didn't join boards until 2002 Olympics so I just know it was before that. They had named themselves after the planet Dagobah from Star Wars, where Yoda lived, but I am not sure why?
 
meggonzo said:
The Michelle L. Kwan Day originated from Old Goat on Tara World. I think he lived in Arizona and they were the last state to observe MLK Day so he wasn't familiar with it. And was upset that Michelle had her own day. :rofl:

The Dagobytes music thing could have been 2001/2002. I didn't join boards until 2002 Olympics so I just know it was before that. They had named themselves after the planet Dagobah from Star Wars, where Yoda lived, but I am not sure why?
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You really can't make this shit up. :lol:
 
meggonzo said:
The Michelle L. Kwan Day originated from Old Goat on Tara World. I think he lived in Arizona and they were the last state to observe MLK Day so he wasn't familiar with it. And was upset that Michelle had her own day. :rofl:

The Dagobytes music thing could have been 2001/2002. I didn't join boards until 2002 Olympics so I just know it was before that. They had named themselves after the planet Dagobah from Star Wars, where Yoda lived, but I am not sure why?
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@meggonzo wished me a Happy Michelle L. Kwan day this year.
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canbelto said:
You're kidding me right. Kwaniacs actually thought MLK day was after Michelle Kwan? She was born in July! MLK day is in January!
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No, not Kwan Fans. Some crazy old man who was a Tara fan thought MLK Day was "Michelle Kwan Day". I know there had to be a post on this board about it because I wasn't on the Tara board. Old Goat does sound familiar as the guy who started the post.
 
VGThuy said:
That's what I thought too because we already knew what Kwan's programs were leading up to 2003 Worlds.
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Thank you. I didn't join MKF until around March of 2003, and that may be why I thought it had to do with 2003 Worlds. I remember reading about the Dagobyte stuff in some older threads, and it just blew my mind to think they were trying to prevent anyone from knowing Michelle's program music!
 
canbelto said:
The thing about people not knowing about MLK day is a real thing though. I knew someone from SC who said that they only knew some long weekend in January as "Robert E Lee Day."
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Well, for a long time it was Robert E Lee Day in many southern states. At some point, some of them relented a little and began calling it Lee & King Day, but I don't think any states still persist in even that now.
 
Karen-W said:
Well, for a long time it was Robert E Lee Day in many southern states. At some point, some of them relented a little and began calling it Lee & King Day, but I don't think any states still persist in even that now.
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Still Lee-King day in Alabama and Mississippi. Arkansas changed it to MLK day in 2017 and Virginia in 2020.
 
VGThuy said:
That's what I thought too because we already knew what Kwan's programs were leading up to 2003 Worlds.
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Thanks for the correction - it was during the 2002 Olympic season.

And that season led to the MKF "platinum medal" for Michelle which started out as a really nice gesture and then went off the rails mainly because one MKF member wanted to run the darn thing and was turned down. They then perceived an insult I mentioned in an earlier post, and then also went off the rails, forming their own board which was designed mainly to try and pin down the identity of the "insulter." How many here besides me were accused of being "bigmkfan?" (For the record, I've never used a pseud, I've either been Yazmeen or some version of it on every skating board I've been on).

I thought things couldn't get wilder until Nationals 2004, where comments from some folks about the behavior of the purple pom-pom squad at Atlanta Nationals got a bunch of people banned from MKF, including yours truly. Good times, good times!!!! :eek: :p :lol:
 
And I wonder if any of the "Fanyus" have ever gone as far as the Tara fan who preserved a pair of Tara's autographed skates under a glass shrine (complete with pink roses) and went to at least one of her Limited, Too appearances to collect photos and more autographs. I always wondered what those mommies and young girls and tweens thought about his presence there.
 
I remember I, as not yet 18 years old, revealed some of Kwan's programs online because... scoop ;) before it was trendy, and some people on MKF really melted down and told me as much.

One question I wish Michelle would be asked is if she actually did plan to skate a program to Tango de Roxanne circa 2004 as her short. I believe that was the year. I had some good sources that were saying she had the choreography to it (wouldn't see why it wouldn't be a short) but then ditched it - presumably to go back to The Feeling Begins if I'm remembering the right season.

I think I might've spilled Scheherezade, too, but I don't remember. @VGThuy probably does. :lol:
 
VGThuy said:
To think, all that secret-keeping and subsequent drama just for "Scheherezade".
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I was never on MKF or any fan boards but I remember a lot of drama even on skatefans about trying to guess her music choice for that year. Someone had an iron-clad theory that it absolutely had to be Borodin’s Polovetsian Dances.
 
See, these stories of the MK/TL fandoms and then those amazing Sergei widows stories have me convinced that the Fanyus would pale in comparison if the social media tools we have now had existed 20-25 years ago.
 
Does anyone remember a time when FSU banned talk of Tara Lipinski because the threads would turn into shitshows? It wasn't a long time but I remember it happening.
 
Yazmeen said:
And I wonder if any of the "Fanyus" have ever gone as far as the Tara fan who preserved a pair of Tara's autographed skates under a glass shrine (complete with pink roses) and went to at least one of her Limited, Too appearances to collect photos and more autographs. I always wondered what those mommies and young girls and tweens thought about his presence there.
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OMG. I know exactly who you're talking about. He ended up getting kicked out of Tara World, if I remember correctly, and then got his socks off playing "devil's advocate" on MKF, a role nobody asked him to play nor did anyone necessarily want on that forum. He also would post some really strange stuff. He was IN LOVE with Tara.

tony said:
I remember I, as not yet 18 years old, revealed some of Kwan's programs online because... scoop ;) before it was trendy, and some people on MKF really melted down and told me as much.

One question I wish Michelle would be asked is if she actually did plan to skate a program to Tango de Roxanne circa 2004 as her short. I believe that was the year. I had some good sources that were saying she had the choreography to it (wouldn't see why it wouldn't be a short) but then ditched it - presumably to go back to The Feeling Begins if I'm remembering the right season.

I think I might've spilled Scheherezade, too, but I don't remember. @VGThuy probably does. :lol:
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I remember me chatting with you on either MSN messenger or AIM about it and you were telling me "duh! It's Scheherezade." I myself was also a teen and was like "REALLY? WHAT'S THAT?" :lol:

Also, about Tango de Roxanne, didn't Kwan bring the wrong CD to one practice at 2004 Nats or whatever and ended up skating to Tango de Roxanne even though the choreo was TFB, and then just ended up skating to TFB at the competition?

Karen-W said:
See, these stories of the MK/TL fandoms and then those amazing Sergei widows stories have me convinced that the Fanyus would pale in comparison if the social media tools we have now had existed 20-25 years ago.
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I think you're right because although Fanyus can harass skaters' social media accounts, I think skating tribes tend to stick to themselves for the most part these days. During the Kwan/Tara and the Pasha and the other notorious wars during the late 90s-early-2000s, it was the WILD WEST. People were more anonymous, ruder, harsher, super into trolling, starting stan wars, gossiping, etc. Imagine if they had access to Kwan and Tara's social media. Good lord. There was something fun about being in the stan wars though. Maybe that's why BTS fans call themselves army because more than half the fun is fighting non-fans. At least the Kwan/Lipinski stuff, as dirty and immature as it was, didn't involve ancient rivalries and geo-politics the way the Yuna Kim v. Mao Asada wars had. Lord, some of the things those fans would bring up was nuts.

I think most of skating fandom has matured quite a bit since most of us got older. ;)

canbelto said:
Does anyone remember a time when FSU banned talk of Tara Lipinski because the threads would turn into shitshows? It wasn't a long time but I remember it happening.
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That was Adrian Chew's board, FSW, before it became F$W and people migrated to FSU changing FSU's culture a bit. He was a crazy Kwan fan who ended up going the opposite direction into an intense Kwan hater and moving his affections to Cohen.
 
canbelto said:
Does anyone remember a time when FSU banned talk of Tara Lipinski because the threads would turn into shitshows? It wasn't a long time but I remember it happening.
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I think that was the old FSW board? I was on that board til it disappeared and then found this one. I vaguely remember something like this on FSW (Figure Skating World . com ).
 
BaileyCatts said:
I think that was the old FSW board? I was on that board til it disappeared and then found this one. I vaguely remember something like this on FSW (Figure Skating World . com ).
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Ah yes I remember that board. There was an older lady named "Claudia" who kept insisting that Tara was flashing her crotch on purpose in the Nagano LP?

The crotch flashing accusation was revived in 2014 when some Yunabots kept insisting Adelina was doing the same thing.
 
Erin said:
I was never on MKF or any fan boards but I remember a lot of drama even on skatefans about trying to guess her music choice for that year. Someone had an iron-clad theory that it absolutely had to be Borodin’s Polovetsian Dances.
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I thought that was fake news manufactured to distract from the fact that was Scheherezade, by choosing another familiar piece by another Russian composer from the same period.

I remember reading a post at MKF in which a poster was impersonating a less-knowledgeable fan who had attended/spied on a practice session at Kwan's rink and described the music as being by some Russian composer named "Borden" (or maybe "Bordeen").
 
One of my favorite fake news tidbits was that Kwan was skating to The Lion King and ended her program with a circular spiral sequence to "The Circle of Life". It was just so cheesy, and yet it still got people talking about a possible Lion King program.
 
VGThuy said:
That was Adrian Chew's board, FSW, before it became F$W and people migrated to FSU changing FSU's culture a bit. He was a crazy Kwan fan who ended up going the opposite direction into an intense Kwan hater and moving his affections to Cohen.
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Never did understand that sudden veer from Kwan to Cohen - IIRC, he tried explaining it off as related to her dropping Frank Carroll as her coach, but I always wondered if it was more personal than that (eg, he met Michelle and didn't get the reception he expected as her "champion"). I also got the infamous "red screen of death" on FSW and was banned, followed by a nastygram from him because I dared criticize Sasha fans in general - and on MKF, not on his board. That's how sensitive he was to any criticism surrounding Cohen.
 
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