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Yes, that one was a classic. So dramatic!I enjoyed the Yags-Plush rivalry - always rooted for Plush, actually.
Yes, that one was a classic. So dramatic!I enjoyed the Yags-Plush rivalry - always rooted for Plush, actually.
Pasha Grishuk vs Maya Usova!Speaking of rivalries, just for entertainment purpose only: who had the best rivalry??? It doesn't matter who you were rooting for, but how much you anticipated to watch it play out. There were some amazing rivalries named above already, but I think one of the biggest right now is Nathan vs Yuzu. They are both so good, you're guaranteed to be thrilled by their performances.
Yes! I was going to say that. It was intensely satisfying Also because it seemed like a very "clean" rivalry. Well-matched opponents, both equally capable of being awesome and ridiculous in turn, just enough bitching, and both got the satisfaction of an OGM in the end.I enjoyed the Yags-Plush rivalry - always rooted for Plush, actually.
That is the trashiest piece of TV I have ever seen
That is the trashiest piece of TV I have ever seen
Still laughing about Usova actually being introduced as "Scorned Wife"
Yes! I was going to say that. It was intensely satisfying Also because it seemed like a very "clean" rivalry. Well-matched opponents, both equally capable of being awesome and ridiculous in turn, just enough bitching, and both got the satisfaction of an OGM in the end.
And I love everything about ice-dance in the 90s. Make that skating in the 90s, it was the place to be!
Maybe I have my rose-tinted glasses on, but I also think it wasn't that nasty back then. I'm sure it was intense for the skaters, as Nancy Kerrigan's knee can attest, and psychos have always existed. But we're in the post-facts, post-truth era, enabled by social media, and by that "my opinion is worth that of any expert" bullshit culture. And having the means to spread any untruth/slander in two clicks without fear of retribution, has really upped the aggro. Add an extra layer of everyone going stir-crazy because of Crap19 and...
They're all mostly nicey-nicey and polite to each other though. Although the Moskvina pairs have some "small" potential forWho said that there aren’t big on-ice personalities now? Tell that to -
The dueling Russian Moskvina pairs, especially the two bragging guys!
The Empress
Keegan
Yuma!
Donovan
Jason...although more serious vibe on ice
Josefin
Sasha Trusova
Rizzo vs Grassl
Nothing boring about the Russian ice dance guys, especially Bukin! (In the case of one team...the female too...red-headed explosion!!)
I could go on & on...LOTS of great personalities...maybe not in a certain country(ies).
As someone above pointed out, we also have The Coaches - a whole other saga, such as Barbara Fusar Poli & her stopwatch, Eteri & Co, Plush, RAFAEL, Oily Morozov, Hot Sergei...wherever he may end up going.
Then, if Tursynbaeva actually returns, we’ll have everyone’s favorite Stage Mom back!
Figure skating boring in 2021? Heck, no! No need to cook-up false rivalries.
OMG I am still amazed how they got away with this biased, factually-inaccurate trash! So interesting to learn that Usova/Zhulin were the only couple with a chance to unseat defending Olympic champions Grishuk/Platov in NAGANO! The rest of this garbage about the infamous love triangle isn't much more accurate either, as the participants have given numerous Russian interviews in later years squarely placing the blame where it's fully deserved--on the cheating and scheming husband, Sasha (who I will admit was smart enough not to be interviewed in that piece). Sasha has given recent interviews in Russia that his upcoming autobiography will set the record straight, and he's already admitted that he seduced teenage Oksana mostly to get her to quit skating to ease his and Maya's path to the gold in LILLEHAMER. Maybe an "I, Pasha!" movie could be made of the story...That is the trashiest piece of TV I have ever seen
Still laughing about Usova actually being introduced as "Scorned Wife"
I need to see parts 1 & 2 now!
Stopped clock, twice a day. Innit.Canton was boring
Errr, it did though.If Yuna vs Mao happened in the age of social media,
I used to watch figure skating as a kid with my dad ( memory) and I think I caught the season where either Brian won .. and then the Olympics. Of course I was like grrrrrrr at Boitano .. but for sure social media is . I tend to steer away from all the twitter etc groups. The Fanyus? fans .. it’s not healthy or normal. It’s a cult group that likely wouldn’t have formed without social media. I don’t blame the skater(s) either.I agree with the increased venom that exists with modern social media. I think about the Battle of the Brians and how polite it was compared to what we see today. It seems the bitchiness started growing with AOL and the RSS feeds and now we have these worldwide cat fights that go beyond debating skating performance and that exist across all sorts of platforms. It can debase the sport.
Stopped clock, twice a day. Innit.
Errr, it did though.
I ALWAYS thought that story needed a Hollywood film! Put also in the mix teenage Navka that was paired up initially with Platov when Dubova kicked/chased/threw Grishuk out. Of course teenage Navka also found her way to Sasha and then was also sent away by Dubova. Then mix in a bit of Torvill&Dean and later the Pasha/Krylova rivalry, coach changes, tantrums, thrown skates etc etc. How can Pasha not have a film?!OMG I am still amazed how they got away with this biased, factually-inaccurate trash! So interesting to learn that Usova/Zhulin were the only couple with a chance to unseat defending Olympic champions Grishuk/Platov in NAGANO! The rest of this garbage about the infamous love triangle isn't much more accurate either, as the participants have given numerous Russian interviews in later years squarely placing the blame where it's fully deserved--on the cheating and scheming husband, Sasha (who I will admit was smart enough not to be interviewed in that piece). Sasha has given recent interviews in Russia that his upcoming autobiography will set the record straight, and he's already admitted that he seduced teenage Oksana mostly to get her to quit skating to ease his and Maya's path to the gold in LILLEHAMER. Maybe an "I, Pasha!" movie could be made of the story...
Yes FSU was launched when so many of us (me, included!!!) were banned from FSW after the incredible online nastiness of the "Pasha Wars" that peaked in fall 1998 after the partner switch following the Tom Collins (Champions on Ice) Tour that summer and culminated with the December 1998 battle in the World Professional Championships (about the only thing this piece got correct, Maya/Evgeny did finish 1st and Pasha/Sasha 3rd, and the crowd reaction was as described). When the participants were openly feuding and spinning the story to make themselves look good and their rivals look horrible, it's no wonder the fan bases got testy in open warfare. I cannot imagine how much uglier this would have gone down in the era of Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram...
An affair is never one sided Yuri lol. There are always two willing people.OMG I am still amazed how they got away with this biased, factually-inaccurate trash! So interesting to learn that Usova/Zhulin were the only couple with a chance to unseat defending Olympic champions Grishuk/Platov in NAGANO! The rest of this garbage about the infamous love triangle isn't much more accurate either, as the participants have given numerous Russian interviews in later years squarely placing the blame where it's fully deserved--on the cheating and scheming husband, Sasha (who I will admit was smart enough not to be interviewed in that piece). Sasha has given recent interviews in Russia that his upcoming autobiography will set the record straight, and he's already admitted that he seduced teenage Oksana mostly to get her to quit skating to ease his and Maya's path to the gold in LILLEHAMER. Maybe an "I, Pasha!" movie could be made of the story...
Yes FSU was launched when so many of us (me, included!!!) were banned from FSW after the incredible online nastiness of the "Pasha Wars" that peaked in fall 1998 after the partner switch following the Tom Collins (Champions on Ice) Tour that summer and culminated with the December 1998 battle in the World Professional Championships (about the only thing this piece got correct, Maya/Evgeny did finish 1st and Pasha/Sasha 3rd, and the crowd reaction was as described). When the participants were openly feuding and spinning the story to make themselves look good and their rivals look horrible, it's no wonder the fan bases got testy in open warfare. I cannot imagine how much uglier this would have gone down in the era of Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram...
I'm sorry, but that's not my recollection.Kim vs Asada happened before social media nastiness really took off. IG / Twitter/ TikTok grew even more exponentially after 2014. The fan wars were contained largely to the forums.
You do sound kind of nasty. I agree with most of what you're saying. It is a good thing that everyone can have a voice, and social media as a whole can really do incredible things.Social media and this boom of 'everyone has a voice' thing is what has sent it to much bigger levels, and it's not just a skating thing. But, as nasty as it makes me sound, I'm still sticking by this 'OMG I have anxiety' 'OMG I was bullied' 'OMG let me talk about how I'm going to be a keyboard activist for everything good in the world'-type of posters being some of the most nasty, disgusting trolls in figure skating social media right now.
Or they are better trained to behave in public. I know plenty of skaters who'd tell you 'demure, my a$$' Anyway, being well mannered and having a strong personality or even a bad/short temper aren't incompatibleAnd the skater-"personalities" of today are quite boring, all nice and demure.
Many places just call it 'ice skating'. Not sure why that isn't used everywhere, since i doubt the ice part of the sport will ever be changed...Because some people think 'artistic skating' is more appropriate, especially given that figures have gone by the wayside? I agree to a certain extent, but 'artistic' to me denotes the non-technical aspect of FS. Though the word 'patinage' may have a slightly different meaning.
I remember a few years back Chan had an EX with figures - possibly a tribute to Mr. Colson? - and someone with greater expertise than mine said he wasn't that good at them. But of course, none of today's skaters really need to train figures for competition, so their strengths lie elsewhere. Even if those strengths involve skating skills.Many places just call it 'ice skating'. Not sure why that isn't used everywhere, since i doubt the ice part of the sport will ever be changed...
But IMO though there aren't compulsory figures anymore, figures are still very much incorporated in the sport, especially if you look at the footwork sequences of skaters like Patrick.
I think Savchenko was the last true "personality" we had left. Btw I only recently heard the story about her 'moo-ing' at another skater in the cafeteria when they were eating Does anyone know who she 'moo-ed' at?
I only heard it in Megan Durhamel's recap of the pairs Olympics on TSL. Dave mentions it and Megan laughs saying she heard the skater was quite upset by this. I think this happened awhile ago, not recently, as they were talking about how much Aliona mellowed.??? When did this happen?