Essential Ice Dance

[Rossig]

My current point being that's just how good T/D were. I really didn't know!

And watch their routines from pro-career. There were so many fantastic ones. I'm posting several of them. But look how different they were. I don't think there was ever a team who was so versatile. They could dance anything.

Encounter - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OWk5a0I1BA
Song of India - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zcOyzAqHeA
Take Five - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vsy0voU0F4
Bridge over Troubled Water - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqWlx0mgIvc
Missing - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NJC_D8RLHQ
Shepherd's Song - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JemNMcJBeJw
Sarabande - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZy-mA1FqO4
Diablo Tango - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BowTAvvNSU

 

[gk_891]

That's fabulous, @gk_891!

Speaking of CDs, I have one to contribute. I looked it up this time last year to see what the midnight blues was. I am not a massive V/M fan and I am definitely not keen on the midnight blues but still: Baby V/M at Jr Worlds 04-05 are wonderful.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eB5p4LTfRCw

Very nice!

 

[gk_891]

And watch their routines from pro-career. There were so many fantastic ones. I'm posting several of them. But look how different they were. I don't think there was ever a team who was so versatile. They could dance anything.

Encounter - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OWk5a0I1BA
Song of India - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zcOyzAqHeA
Take Five - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vsy0voU0F4
Bridge over Troubled Water - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqWlx0mgIvc
Missing - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NJC_D8RLHQ
Shepherd's Song - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JemNMcJBeJw
Sarabande - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZy-mA1FqO4
Diablo Tango - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BowTAvvNSU

Out of all of their professional numbers, I've always been partial to Encounter. But I also love Revolution/Imagine as well.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2ug6kn

 

[sap5]

Golden Waltz
Grishuk & Platov 1998 Olympics (even with her error) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TuU9MWmwfY
Virtue & Moir 2010 Worlds - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHpzI6g2VHc

The camera work for V/M's 2010 Worlds Golden Waltz may be the worst I've ever seen for a CD. So aggravating! I also wish we could see V/M perform the Golden Waltz this year, as I suspect that they would do an even better job with it now than they did in the past.

I always liked Usova & Zhulin's Ravensburger (1991 Worlds): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8MfEHAI54M

 

[gk_891]

The camera work for V/M's 2010 Worlds Golden Waltz may be the worst I've ever seen for a CD. So aggravating! I also wish we could see V/M perform the Golden Waltz this year, as I suspect that they would do an even better job with it now than they did in the past.

I always liked Usova & Zhulin's Ravensburger (1991 Worlds): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8MfEHAI54M

Yeah that camera work is terrible.

Here's another one of V&M skating that dance. It's from 2009 TEB.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jd-oJXSAt3U

 

[Vash01]

I was going to post some links last night, but we had thunder and lightning. When that happens, I avoid using electrical outlets, except for the TV. It's going to be like that a couple more nights but if I make it home early enough, I may be able to post some.

I had listed T&D's OD at the 94 Olympics, K&P's Paso Doble at the 92 Olympics, AP's FD at the 88 Olympics and some more.

 

[Vash01]

Here are more links to dances:

Torvill- Dean 94 Oly OD (Rhumba)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAausm9O4Nw

Grishchuk-Platov Ex You’ll see

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOuxoDh5Svo

Grishchuk Platov Libertango

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8-JHsLl3Yo

Wilson McCall 1988 Oly FD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWO4eG_EwG8

Anissina Peizerat 1998 Oly FD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE9gI_Xh2PA

Anissina Peizerat 2002 Oly OD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7e_wt2aaQw

Navka-Kostomarov 2006 FD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNcsaY3-6lQ

Klimova-Ponomarenko 92 Paso Doble

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zvmt_YIwHAg

Klimova-Ponomarenko 92 Pro- Tchaikovsky

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXxkLJ7omA0

Bestemianova- Bukin 1988 Oly exhibition

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmMxhtM7_rg

Drobiazko-Vanagas 2000 FD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc0xE2GWZcY

Moniotte Lavanchy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzmItm76BgA

Denkova-Staviyski 2006 worlds FD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3l11Jx5Mdc

 

[Spun Silver]

Thanks, Vash. It will take me a long time to get to them but I definitely will! It's great to have all this in one place.

 

[AxelAnnie]

I can't remember the reasons why I didn't mention T&D's programs from 1984 in my prevoius post but here they are anyways since they should definitely be mentioned.

OSP (Paso Doble)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsHt7DRxpxA

FD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2zbbN4OL98

Thank you for the links. Brilliant! I have only on the last few years begun to appreciate ice dance. It was utterly thrilling to watch them with the but of knowledge I have

 

[Vash01]

Thanks, Vash. It will take me a long time to get to them but I definitely will! It's great to have all this in one place.

I agree it's good to have all the links in one place. Thanks for starting this thread.

 

[gkelly]

Full patterns of the pattern dances for last year's and this year's short dances:

Midnight Blues (partial pattern used in senior SD 2016-17)
vs.
Blues
(junior SD 2016-17)

Rhumba
(senior SD 2017-18)

Cha Cha Congelado (junior SD 2017-18)

We could find examples of famous teams doing most of these dances.

Midnight blues is pretty new and was only used as a full compulsory dance in 2002-03, 2003-04, and 2004-05 seasons for seniors, 2006-07 for juniors.

Cha Cha Congelado is also relatively new and was only used in juniors:
2000-01, 2004-05, 2007-08

 

[barbarafan]

Here are more links to dances:



Wilson McCall 1988 Oly FD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWO4eG_EwG8

Thank-you for this.. I love this routine and it is one that if I am down I can watch it and feel uplifted

 

[gk_891]

Thank-you for this.. I love this routine and it is one that if I am down I can watch it and feel uplifted

I quite like that FD too. I also really liked their jazz FD from 1987.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXjd_6Hbx0c

 

[Vash01]

Thank-you for this.. I love this routine and it is one that if I am down I can watch it and feel uplifted

I love that routine. So much fun. I had never seen W&M before the 88 Olympics, and really enjoyed their style. They had some pretty good exhibitions too.

 

[kittysk8ts]

Mack and Mabel

My fave of theirs

 

[sap5]

In this vid of 3 T&D CDs, the last CD is the rumba, which is this year's senior pattern. I thought it would be helpful for those who want to know what it should truly look like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-dtqXhNvw4

 

[Jun Y]

I was looking up old videos of the Rhumba compulsory dance and found the broadcast of a whole bunch of them at 1984 Olympics. Might be the entire field.

Part 1:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGckC9Tl6yA
Part 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0U7ttpUMAI
Part 3:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3wMTDG3OSs

It's kind of fascinating to watch and compare different teams tackling the Rhumba pattern.

 

[gk_891]

I was looking up old videos of the Rhumba compulsory dance and found the broadcast of a whole bunch of them at 1984 Olympics. Might be the entire field.

Part 1:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGckC9Tl6yA
Part 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0U7ttpUMAI
Part 3:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3wMTDG3OSs

It's kind of fascinating to watch and compare different teams tackling the Rhumba pattern.

One team's rhumba that I thought was very strong was Bestemianova & Bukin's. The widestep going into the choctaw was huge and both the left forward inside edge and the right back outside edge were both taken very wide and looked equal to one another. I think they were maybe the only Russian/Soviet team who could perform it properly. K&P, U&Z, and G&P's double choctaws from the rhumba CD were all disappointing to varying degrees. I remember U&Z's rhumba CD from the 1989 Europeans and both steps of their choctaw almost looked like straight lines.

 

[Vash01]

1980 world championships: Guess who was in 4th place?

1980 worlds (G,S,B, and 4th place):

1.Regoczy-Sallay 1980 world FD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GBmjnWqwQ0

2.Linichuk Karpanosov

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoCOCT2q0Ew

3.Moiseeva-Minnenkov

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxTstLn5oso

4.Torvill-Dean

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1mQwydsdnQ

What a difference a year makes!

T&D 1981 worlds FD:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7MdDJhF0rU

 

[Vash01]

A rare performance by Grishchuk & Platov, at a gala in Russia in 2007, skating to 'Color of the night':

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihZHvCEr8VU

I can't help wondering- what if they had not split so soon after the 98 Olympics?

 

[gk_891]

A rare performance by Grishchuk & Platov, at a gala in Russia in 2007, skating to 'Color of the night':

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihZHvCEr8VU

I can't help wondering- what if they had not split so soon after the 98 Olympics?

There have been so many different versions of what happened after the 1998 Olympics. But wasn't Oksana/Pasha looking at quitting skating so she can go to Hollywood? If so, I'm sure Platov had to think about his future and making some money. I also vaguely remember Platov saying that he and Oksana did some post-Olympic performances in Japan but they didn't go over very well for a reason that I can't recall. I also think he had had enough of Oksana's excessive behavior and wanted a professional career that was free of stress. Oksana OTOH has claimed that Platov's decision to skate with Usova came as a shock to her and I think she also claimed that he didn't split prize money with her equally (something about them belonging to different sporting clubs or something like that).

 

[gk_891]

1980 world championships: Guess who was in 4th place?


4.Torvill-Dean

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1mQwydsdnQ

What a difference a year makes!

T&D 1981 worlds FD:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7MdDJhF0rU

There are certain aspects of their 1980 FD that IMO were superior to the top 3 couples. For me though, there were one too many cuts to the music.

Their improvement was amazing by 1981 though. But they improved even more by 1982 and became legends.

 

[VGThuy]

Platov also claimed that Pasha told him he was only responsible for like 30% of their success (it might have been even lower) or something like that.

 

[sap5]

Platov also claimed that Pasha told him he was only responsible for like 30% of their success (it might have been even lower) or something like that.

I want to LOL as I can believe her saying something so nutty.

 

[Vash01]

Platov also claimed that Pasha told him he was only responsible for like 30% of their success (it might have been even lower) or something like that.

May be she was just upset when she said that, but it's a well known fact that they didn't get along throughout their career.

 

[gk_891]

I want to LOL as I can believe her saying something so nutty.

She was definitely one of a kind. I actually found her extremely entertaining during her crazy-Pasha days even if you were laughing more at her than with her.

 

[briancoogaert]

To post something not posted before :

Rahkamo and Kokko 1992 FD Memory :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6DkABOmIBY

And I've always loved Delobel and Schoenfelder programs from 2008 and 2009 :

2008 OD : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4GJ2h6stOU
2008 FD : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3siEAJZ-IKM
2008 GPF : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bILl9Xd5LoQ

 

[Aerobicidal]

This FD from Rahkamo and Kokko is one of my favorites ever. I love that they were parodying other ice dance teams in a competitive program. I can't imagine any skaters having the nerve to parody anything in a competitive program these days, especially not their competitors.

This program also resonates with me because the performance that made me a figure skating fan, Khokhlova and Novitski's 2009 Euros FD, could also be interpreted as a parody of other ice dancers. That probably wasn't their intention, but who cares!

 

[gk_891]

To post something not posted before :

Rahkamo and Kokko 1992 FD Memory :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6DkABOmIBY

And I've always loved Delobel and Schoenfelder programs from 2008 and 2009 :

2008 OD : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4GJ2h6stOU
2008 FD : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3siEAJZ-IKM
2008 GPF : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bILl9Xd5LoQ

I also liked their free dances from 2005 and 2006 too as well as their OD from 2006 (I thought it was underrated).

 

[barbarafan]

To post something not posted before :

Rahkamo and Kokko 1992 FD Memory :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6DkABOmIBY

And I've always loved Delobel and Schoenfelder programs from 2008 and 2009 :

2008 OD : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4GJ2h6stOU
2008 FD : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3siEAJZ-IKM
2008 GPF : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bILl9Xd5LoQ

I love them totally....I feel that Schoenfelder is one of the best male leads in ice dance in the world.