Chinese Skating News, Pt. 3: A long & winding road to Beijing 2022

[skatingguy]

Wait - so no Sui/Han at Worlds? Because they forgot to register?? Wow

It doesn't sound like Sui/Han were going to go to worlds, but now none of the Chinese skaters are going.

 

[seabm7]

A Boyang fan says he is going to have an appendicitis surgery.

https://twitter.com/boyang_fan/status/1498992454439092226

 

[skatingguy]

A Boyang's fan says he is going to have an appendicitis surgery.

https://twitter.com/boyang_fan/status/1498992454439092226

They must be mistaken - appendicitis is an acute issue - you can't wait to have the operation until after a quarantine period.

 

[Gris]

A Boyang's fan says he is going to have an appendicitis surgery.

https://twitter.com/boyang_fan/status/1498992454439092226

They must be mistaken - appendicitis is an acute issue - you can't wait to have the operation until after a quarantine period.

He has said he suffers from chronic appendicitis and requires surgery at the start of the season (at Asian Open I believe). He did mention the possibility of going to Worlds in his recent live though. Well everything about Worlds is moot now and I wish him a quick and full recovery.

 

[skatingguy]

He has said he suffers from chronic appendicitis and requires surgery at the start of the season (at Asian Open I believe). He did mentioned the possibility of going to Worlds in his recent live though. Well it's all moot now and I wish him a quick and full recovery.

Okay, thanks.

 

[allezfred]

I highly doubt the Chinese federation would “forget” to enter a team for Worlds. There would have been regularly reminders sent by the OC and the ISU.

 

[KaoriFan]

They must be mistaken - appendicitis is an acute issue - you can't wait to have the operation until after a quarantine period.

Sometimes appendicitis will improve on its own, or be treated with antibiotic. I didn't know this until recently either. I thought it would always mean surgery.

 

[Frau Muller]

Maybe I.AM knows the reason for the absence of China’s Wang/Liu dance team? I will miss them.

 

[Gris]

Maybe I.AM knows the reason for the absence of China’s Wang/Liu dance team? I will miss them.

He needs surgery to remove the screws in his hand.

 

[miffy]

so P/J still won’t be world medallists.

 

[BlueRidge]

Might China just have decided there wasn't anyone they wanted to send to worlds? But that doesn't make sense for Peng & Jin, does it?

 

[miffy]

I’m sick of the way P/J are so underrated by their own federation. They could have won a World title here. I hope there is a good reason for this but until we hear it then

Totally rooting for M/K now. Nothing against the other teams, I love pairs in general.

 

[rfisher]

I highly doubt the Chinese federation would “forget” to enter a team for Worlds. There would have been regularly reminders sent by the OC and the ISU.

More likely they were told not to bother because when China decides to unite Taiwan with the motherland, the skaters would be banned anyway

 

[skategal]

I think it’s more likely that the funding has been limited for Sports due to hosting the Olympics.

We have seen all season that China wouldn’t send their skaters to compete overseas unless absolutely necessary (S/H).

Or it could still be caution about Covid.

I highly doubt it is because they are going to invade Taiwan.

 

[Gris]

To be fair, if it's because of C19 or politics (in my opinion, unlikely), then it would be out of the Fed's control.

The ban on Russian skaters was only announced yesterday. Maybe they had expected P/J to finish off the podium behind the 3 Russian teams so didn't bother to send them.

 

[jlai]

More likely they were told not to bother because when China decides to unite Taiwan with the motherland, the skaters would be banned anyway

This is not stuff you should be joking around

 

[alj5]

They must be mistaken - appendicitis is an acute issue - you can't wait to have the operation until after a quarantine period.

Ruptured appendicitis is an acute issue requiring surgery.

Though in the US where I practice, pretty much any appendicitis is an automatic surgery. A non-ruptured appendicitis (basically inflammation/mild fluid collection) is a much easier recovery than a ruptured appendicitis (inflammation and fluid collection so severe it tears the wall of the appendix). I've had young healthy people be discharged 6 hours after surgery when it's not ruptured, though most spend 12-24 hours in the hospital after surgery. Ruptured spend several days to a week, often needing a drain placed and a decent amount require a second clean out surgery.

 

[Frau Muller]

So everybody on Team China has a reason to not go to Worlds. Ok, we get it. Hmm…pretty obvious.

Yesterday, China abstained from condemning Russia at the U.N. Just a coincidence.

 

[clairecloutier]

Nick McCarvel said on Twitter that Sui/Han had independently confirmed that they won't compete at Worlds:

It feels like Chinese figure skating is about to enter some totally new phase of rebuilding/retrenchment. Or maybe even a semi-permanent step back from international competition?

Whatever their reasons, skipping Worlds outright, for the entire team, says to me that they are not interested in the continuation of the current program.

P.S. I also cannot imagine that the Chinese decision to skip Worlds, after already canceling so many events scheduled for China, would play well with ISU leadership. Although who knows ....

 

[Sylvia]

Nick McCarvel said on Twitter that Sui/Han had independently confirmed that they won't compete at Worlds:

Direct link: https://twitter.com/nickmccarvel/status/1499393238557417474

I wonder what the future will be for young skaters like Xiangyi “Nini” AN (who’s yet to compete on the JGP) - her account posted this photo of her skating for fun with pair skater Xiaoyu YU: https://www.instagram.com/p/CanvnTFp8Ss/

 

[BittyBug]

Once again, Han Yan wuzrobbed.

 

[clairecloutier]

Most of the Chinese skaters wuzrobbed on some level over the last few seasons.

 

[Baby Yoda On Skates]

I'm so disappointed that we won't get to see P/J and W/L at Worlds. The Chinese fed really just gave up on athlete development and it's disappointing to see their program in shambles.

 

[barbk]

They must be mistaken - appendicitis is an acute issue - you can't wait to have the operation until after a quarantine period.

Yeah, well, I had an appendectomy scheduled a day ahead of time because the surgeon felt that a healthy pre-surgery course of antibiotics was a good idea. Subsequently, I read that in some other parts of the world, appendicitis is routinely treated with antibiotics and not surgery unless it becomes recurrent. Kind of like the approach used for diverticulitis. From what I read, the outcomes for the antibiotic approach are actually excellent.

 

[raruki]

Rumors say that Shen and Zhao forgot to register. (Sorry that I have deleted the previous posts)

But the truth is that Shen and Zhao and the whole CFSA didn't want to compete in the first place because the preparation for the Olympics was indeed demanding(but the truth is Shen and Zhao completely ruined the second-tiered and lower-tiered of the whole figure skating team(by asking them to go back to their provincial training camp) and some top-tiered skaters have to surgery(Wang and Liu, Boyang Jin), so there were no substitutes to replace).

After Sui/Han won the gold medal, Shen and Zhao didn't care about the national training teams anymore, what they wanted to have was waiting for an awarding ceremony organized by the Chinese sports authority to award them as the "gold medal coaches". But when the Russians were baned, they thought it was a good time for them to let Peng and Jin win the world championships and they can become the "double gold medals coaches", but THEY DIDN'T CHECK THE DOCUMENTS AND CHECK THEIR MAILBOX WHICH IS FILLED WITH TONS OF THE ANNOUNCEMENTS AND LETTERS FROM ISU AND LOCAL OLYMPIC COMMITTEE, and they missed the registration deadline.

Some of them might question how on earth a top manager for the sports can even miss the deadline of registration, but this is something Shen and Zhao definitely will do. They have miscalculated the ranking scores for Sui and Han during the 2018 winter Olympics by not knowing the rules, and I am not surprised at all about this stupid sh!tshow.

Shen and Zhao have started to bargain with ISU and hope that they can compete. Wish that they can know how to negotiate with them by using clear and understandable English

 

[kwanfan1818]

The ISU has allowed Hendrickx to enter after the Belgian Fed forgot to submit the paperwork, and it would be hard for them to deny China, if China claims the same.

 

[Gris]

some top-tiered skaters have to surgery(Wang and Liu, Boyang Jin), so there were no substitutes to replace).

For the record, they can still send Chen / Sun for dance though but they probably didn't bother.

But when the Russians were baned, they thought it was a good time for them to let Peng and Jin win the world championships and they can become the "double gold medals coaches", but THEY DIDN'T CHECK THE DOCUMENTS AND CHECK THEIR MAILBOX WHICH IS FILLED WITH TONS OF THE ANNOUNCEMENTS AND LETTERS FROM ISU AND LOCAL OLYMPIC COMMITTEE, and they missed the registration deadline.

The ban on Russian skaters was announced on March 1 and the entry deadline is February 28. So of course they were late...

Shen and Zhao have started to bargain with ISU and hope that they can compete. Wish that they can know how to negotiate with them by using clear and understandable English

I've seen P/J's fan page (presumably in touch with the skaters) saying the Federation is working on this - well I hope it's true then and good luck.

Once again, S/H's Olympic gold medal is enough to save Shen and Zhao. Now they can just enjoy their "golden skaters becoming golden coach" publicity without actually working to develop Chinese figure skating.

 

[raruki]

The ISU has allowed Hendrickx to enter after the Belgian Fed forgot to submit the paperwork, and it would be hard for them to deny China, if China claims the same.

https://isu.org/docman-documents-links/isu-files/event-documents/figure-skating-4/2021-22/championships-36/announcements-115/26106-isu-world-figure-skating-championships-2022-announcement/file

As you can check on the last page, registering for the competition is much more complicated than just submitting an entry form. You have to submit many forms regarding your insurances, press, hotels, banking, blah blah blah in each separated deadline. The Belgian fed probably just missed one of the steps the announcement listed so they can easily fix it immediately. But regarding the case of CFSA, they haven't done anything, and they submitted everything very late.

 

[raruki]

Once again, S/H's Olympic gold medal is enough to save Shen and Zhao. Now they can just enjoy their "golden skaters becoming golden coach" publicity without actually working to develop Chinese figure skating.

And with that gold medal, they can still ruin the Chinese figure skating in the next Olympic cycle.

 

[kwanfan1818]

The Belgian fed probably just missed one of the steps the announcement listed so they can easily fix it immediately. But regarding the case of CFSA, they haven't done anything, and they submitted everything very late.

Hard to tell from this article how much or how little the Belgian Fed did:
https://www-lesoir-be.translate.goog/427596/article/2022-03-02/loena-hendrickx-repechee-de-justesse-pour-les-mondiaux-de-patinage?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp

While we might laugh at either Fed having dropped the ball, the Olympics are a big enough distraction that it's more plausible in an Olympic year.