We're not lacking in men's skaters who are competitive internationally. This was just a bad competition.It might take a phenom like Gogolev to put Canada back on the map for Men's.
Keegan's score from 4CC would have had him fifth here, and he was eighth at Worlds last year. He isn't a gold medal contender, no, but to say he's not competitive in this field is patently not true. He just had a bad event, which happens to everybody.Dismal results but not entirely unexpected. Messing only has one quad so isn’t competitive in this field
Seeing as neither of them has yet demonstrated the nerve in competition that Keegan or Nam have, it's kind of getting ahead of things to start talking about replacing them.Next year I’d like to see a new face at worlds, maybe Phan or Orzel.
Barkell is doing most of the job... Brian is mostly a pretty good manager as far as training is concern. Ghislain Briand is also another great assets for kids at CC. Gogolev is still young and although he's amazing, he's stil in a developemental phase. Barkell was with him at every single competition I saw him.Lee Barkell is an outstanding coach in his own right. Please, let's not make it seem like turning to him is some sort of booby prize when Brian Orser is booked too heavily/isn't available. IMO he's one of North America's top coaches even though more low-key and not the household name of Orser, Carroll, Zakrajsek, etc.
And he also lost points by not having a combination in his short program. “I thought of it after I landed” was what he said coming into the Kiss & Cry. These are things he should be doing in training so they are automatic. An extra four points in the short from a triple toe would have meant a later draw in the long and probably higher PCS. Add that to your example in the long and we are getting pretty close to 12th place.Not that this would have mattered in the overall standing or obtaining 2 berths, but I wonder if Keegan's team ever discuss Plan B and Plan C Layouts if Plan A layouts aren't working in the beginning of the program. Example: Tacking on just a double toe at end of that triple axel late might have added 4 points.
It might take a phenom like Gogolev to put Canada back on the map for Men's. Look at what Nathan has done for US men he has revolutionized the men's division in the US. US men while always competitive hadn't been contenders for world medals since Evan and Johnny but Nathan comes along and changes everything and now two US men are on the podium and Nathan is partly responsible because he helped inspire Vincent to push himself at a young age.
Ok point taken but my point is very soon only having one quad will not be enough for a top 10. The top 5 at worlds are landing multiple different quads. Soon it will be the top 10.Keegan's score from 4CC would have had him fifth here, and he was eighth at Worlds last year. He isn't a gold medal contender, no, but to say he's not competitive in this field is patently not true.
I think Orzel has that competitive spirit and mind-set. I would not be surprised if he starts to make a name for himself next year.While I like both Messing and Nam well enough, I really love the next generation of Canadian men like Sadovsky, Phan, Orzel, and Nadeau. I was hoping at least one of them would make it to Worlds in 2020. That seems a whole lot less likely now.
ehhhh....I think Orzel has that competitive spirit and mind-set. I would not be surprised if he starts to make a name for himself next year.
I was loving the heck out of this post until the words Phan and Orzel.Dismal results but not entirely unexpected. Messing only has one quad so isn’t competitive in this field and is mistake prone and NN seems to always peak at nationals and then it’s downhill from there.
Still, Skate Canada must be reeling from this - only one man at a home worlds. And whoever is that man next year is going to be under *enormous* pressure. Both from trying to place top 10 and skating in front of a home crowd. Honestly I don’t see who is up to the challenge.
Next year I’d like to see a new face at worlds, maybe Phan or Orzel.