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I'm sorry for the athletes who'll need to relocate their training, because that's always a hassle, but at least Sydney does have other rinks they can access comparatively easily. The hockey kids and aspiring figure skaters based at Noarlunga rink weren't nearly so lucky.
Fair point, and I agree that compared to other capital cities Sydney is relatively well served for rinks, with five (going down to four) for 5 million people. Penrith and Liverpool are also no longer considered to be outside of Sydney (as they were when I was a child) and are now easier to reach with improved roads.

But once you factor in the notorious Sydney traffic 'comparatively easily' is debatable. Technically I live 25 minutes from the rink where I skate, and 20 minutes from Macquarie, which is actually 5 minutes from where I work. Google Maps says it should take me half an hour to get from my rink to work near Macquarie. In reality it frequently takes me an hour, heading off just before 7am. That's between the two more central rinks in Sydney. So when you're talking about people trying to skate before or after school or work, the additional commuting time to get to or from a rink is much greater than it appears to be. I predict a lot of skaters will quit rather than find an alternative rink because the commute will just not be practical.

Anyway, here's another petition:
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Signing them all. It has another effect too, one that won't be as well known. Other cities are fighting to try and get new rinks. How are they supposed to win over their local governments if Sydney is closing them?

And yes, my understanding is that 4CC will effectively be a skate-off for the Worlds spot.
 

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Fair point, and I agree that compared to other capital cities Sydney is relatively well served for rinks, with five (going down to four) for 5 million people. Penrith and Liverpool are also no longer considered to be outside of Sydney (as they were when I was a child) and are now easier to reach with improved roads.

But once you factor in the notorious Sydney traffic 'comparatively easily' is debatable. Technically I live 25 minutes from the rink where I skate, and 20 minutes from Macquarie, which is actually 5 minutes from where I work. Google Maps says it should take me half an hour to get from my rink to work near Macquarie. In reality it frequently takes me an hour, heading off just before 7am. That's between the two more central rinks in Sydney. So when you're talking about people trying to skate before or after school or work, the additional commuting time to get to or from a rink is much greater than it appears to be. I predict a lot of skaters will quit rather than find an alternative rink because the commute will just not be practical.
Agreed.

Also, some of the skaters who train at the rink would be too young to drive, and their parents are the ones taking them there. Having attended the national championships as a spectator both at Penrith and Macquarie, from my hotel near Central Station in the middle of Sydney, it took anywhere from 70 to 120 minutes by public transport to get to Penrith, and 60 to 90 minutes to get to Macquarie.

Public transport from Macquarie to the Penrith Ice Palace takes anywhere from 90 to 150 minutes, and vice versa. That could mean enduring up to three connecting points, too.

In terms of access, Penrith is in the middle of an industrial estate, with the nearest bus about 10 minutes away by foot. Whereas, Macquarie is part of a major shopping centre and multiple transport options, too.
 
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Latest news is AMP have put the plans on hold. Which is a good thing. But now the campaign starts to get them to listen to the needs of the community.
 

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Latest news is AMP have put the plans on hold. Which is a good thing. But now the campaign starts to get them to listen to the needs of the community.
Well if Australia wants a chance at the Olympic team event, closing down the ice dance rink is probably not the best way to go about it. I saw something on social media from Chantelle Kerry about it. I assume that is her home training rink?
 

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Well if Australia wants a chance at the Olympic team event, closing down the ice dance rink is probably not the best way to go about it. I saw something on social media from Chantelle Kerry about it. I assume that is her home training rink?
It is her home rink but there are other rinks in Sydney. An Olympic team event is not dependent on one rink. And all the other skaters who potentially could be part of a team event train overseas.
 

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It is her home rink but there are other rinks in Sydney. An Olympic team event is not dependent on one rink. And all the other skaters who potentially could be part of a team event train overseas.
Irrespective of whether our elite athletes train part of the year overseas, the sport is still dependent on getting people started at the grass roots level.

It is well-documented that many of our top skaters are forced to go to the US or Canada, simply because Australia doesn't have enough rinks and ice-time to support their training.

Also, parents are willing to drive only so far to get their kids to training. One less facility will stretch others to capacity and beyond. Meaning, there are only so many hours in a day to schedule costly training time versus public sessions.

Victorian competitive skating suffered for decades because once a rink is gone, it's gone.
 
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Irrespective of whether our elite athletes train part of the year overseas, the sport is still dependent on getting people started at the grass roots level.

It is well-documented that many of our top skaters are forced to go to the US or Canada, simply because Australia doesn't have enough rinks and ice-time to support their training.

Also, parents are willing to drive only so far to get their kids to training. One less facility will stretch others to capacity and beyond. Meaning, there are only so many hours in a day to schedule costly training time versus public sessions.

Victorian competitive skating suffered for decades because once a rink is gone, it's gone.
I was responding to the comment that because of the rink closing it puts the chance of Australia being able to compete at the team event at risk which is not true. As person who has been involved in the sport for years I am fully aware of the rink situation in Australia and how it impacts on skater development.
 
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I urge everyone to sign the petitions and write-in! Macquarie Ice Rink is the only rink on the North side of Sydney where I live, if it goes I'll have to give up skating (not that I'm any good, but I love to do it) because it just won't be feasible to go to the other rinks which are up to two hours away.

The owner also recently spent a whole lot of money upgrading the place!

Failing that I call for a skate-in, if the bulldozers come, we shall stand on the ice in our skates and not be moved!
 

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It's not been a great 2019 for Alexandrovskaya & Windsor, either. They withdrew last week from Four Continents due to injury. Does anyone know the specifics, and if they will be back in times for the world championships?
 

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Oh no, poor Brooklee! That's going to take some time to heal. :(

I read on another thread here that Harley had an ankle injury, but haven't heard any more detail than that. On the good news front, though, Brendan just had a top 10 finish at Four Continents - ninth place, to be precise! Which is awesome in its own right, and also a financial help, because ISA awards a $2,000 incentive payment for placing in the top 50% at FCC which can only be useful. Poor Andrew, though, was unfortunately just the wrong side of the cutoff line...
 

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