Discussion in 'Off The Beaten Track' started by A.H.Black, Oct 1, 2012.
Re: The Paradise ... ok, so is the world of early-20th-century department stores so fascinating that we need two series about it? LOL
I'll watch, though, and hope that it's better than Mr Selfridge (which I did not like). I'm hoping that the combination of Bill Gallagher (who created Lark Rise to Candleford, which I did love) and Émile Zola will be a winner.
Why I'll be watching, as well.
I watched and enjoyed the first episode. It has an Upstairs/Downstairs feel. Nice costumes and sets and English garden/ grand house setting. Some of the gung-ho We'll-make-this-business-succeed story was a bit much. I think they took credit for inventing CREDIT. At least the soap opera story lines were tied up neatly with a bow by the end of the episode, so not too believable, but okay entertainment.
I like it, too. Couldn't help comparing it to Mr. Selfridge, and there are obvious similarities. But, overall, I prefer The Paradise...Jeremy Piven is a bit OTT for my tastes.
I didn't get past episode 1 of Mr Selfridge, mostly because Piven was just so unwatchable in that role. I watched the first 5-10 minutes of The Paradise before switching back to Battle of the Blades, enough to tell me that I'll probably like it. Looking forward to catching up with it tonight.
I liked it a lot. Reminded me a of Mr Selfridge too.
If you read the Daily Mail and don't want to be spoiled for Downton Abbey's US broadcasts, well, don't read the Daily Mail. Spoilers galore in headlines
I caught up with The Paradise last night. And thought it was pretty good.
I like period pieces a lot, and usually enjoy comparing the social mores of ___ time & place with our own. But the hardest ones I have identifying with or wrapping my head around are those related to class entitlement. I can feel genuine sympathy for a woman who finds herself in a loveless (or abusive) marriage but because of the times has few options. But while false accusation is bad enough, having a man lose his livelihood just so the lady can protect her "honour" and reputation ... well, there's nothing honorable in that. If it hadn't resolved by the end of the episode, I would have been severely ticked off.
I've just figured out that Mrs. Brookmire was the girl in Lark Rise.
^ Yeah it took me a while to recognize her -- because it was such a very un-Laura-like character. Impressive range.
And you recognized "Minnie" from Lark Rise too, right? She's pretty much exactly the same though.
Yup, I recognized her immediately.
Completely enjoyed Handel's "Giulio Cesar". One of the most amusing operas I've ever watched. Unexpected.
The Paradise was ok but I didn't like it as much as Mr. Selfridge. I thought it was way too predictable. I can see 1,000 miles away that Denise and Sam are going to be endgame, yawn.
I thought Denise is fascinated with her boss?
I think she said at some point to her friend that she didn't want to be with him, she wanted to BE him. She and Sam are endgame, mark my words.
I can't remember a single love story in a TV show (or movie), ever, that I didn't see coming a mile away. And about 75% of non-romance plotlines. So if I dismissed every show because of "predictability" ... I'd pretty much not ever watch anything ever.
But of course everyone has different tastes. I personally didn't like Mr Selfridge because Piven was so OTT, unbearably in-your-face, and completely unconvincing for the time period. And almost all the other characters were 2-dimensional. Yawn indeed. With Paradise I find the issues such as class and gender roles are dealt with in a much more interesting way. It's no masterpiece (!), but definitely enough to keep me going.
By JOANNE KAUFMAN
Oct. 21, 2013 4:19 p.m. ET
January 19th!! Back-to-back with Downton Abbey!
Pretty sure they could hear my cheer all the way over in Baker Street.
Twitter: a couple of more return dates...
EDIT5: link to full PBS press release...
PBS Announces Winter/Spring Season
Doesn't look like it so far, but I must say the whole saga is beginning to grate on me, and it's only the third episode. If Ms Glendenning and her dad are busier with their lives, they won't spend their days wondering about clothes or whether Moray will return her love.