2025 NFL draft - which QB will be drafted in first round

[once_upon]

Now the Super Bowl, or not so super, is over it's time to think about draft

Right now the NFL has a wealth of QB's
Josh, Jayden, Lamar, Jordan, Jaylen, Justin, Joe, Brock, Patrick, Kyler, Jared, Tua (please no more concussion), Matthew, Baker, Jamis, CJ, Russell

Where, for whom and when do you think Cameron Ward and Shedeur Sanders will drafted? (They are list 1 and 3 in the mock draft. The next QB mentioned doesn't appear to the 52 choice in mock draft)

I remember when teams were rushing out to get QB

 

[ilovepaydays]

Round 1 of the 2025 NFL Draft is tomorrow night!

Here’s the NFL Draft homepage.

 

[barbk]

Now the Super Bowl, or not so super, is over it's time to think about draft

Right now the NFL has a wealth of QB's
Josh, Jayden, Lamar, Jordan, Jaylen, Justin, Joe, Brock, Patrick, Kyler, Jared, Tua (please no more concussion), Matthew, Baker, Jamis, CJ, Russell

Half of whom have names starting with J!

Where, for whom and when do you think Cameron Ward and Shedeur Sanders will drafted? (They are list 1 and 3 in the mock draft. The next QB mentioned doesn't appear to the 52 choice in mock draft)

I remember when teams were rushing out to get QB

My guess - Ward pretty high (top 5), Sanders bottom of the first round or towards the top of the second.

 

[once_upon]

Half of whom have names starting with J!

20-30 years ago, J names were in top 25 consistently.

My guess - Ward pretty high (top 5), Sanders bottom of the first round or towards the top of the second.

I think Sanders is too much focusing on Daddy's name. When NE won over CO, he wasn't exactly well...

 

[barbk]

20-30 years ago, J names were in top 25 consistently.

I think Sanders is too much focusing on Daddy's name. When NE won over CO, he wasn't exactly well...

The good news is that Shedeur Sanders is at least somewhat more articulate than his father.

Last week, Deion graced us with comments on the transfer portal "Like, NCAA, y’all gotta do something, man. Don’t just sit there on your hands and open them up so everybody can grease your darn palms and make a ton of money off everybody and don’t have nothing to say about nothing. I don’t understand that part.” I'm not sure I want to imagine hands being greased while you're sitting on them.

 

[once_upon]

Shadier is still waiting.

 

[once_upon]

Huh, Sanders still waiting. I sure didn't expect that

 

[myhoneyhoney]

I’m trying to Google and look on ESPN. He still hasn’t been drafted?

 

[Rob]

And still waiting (pick 47 is up). Not many teams need a QB though.

 

[VALuvsMKwan]

And not picked through 3rd round, even with 6 supplemental picks at the end of that round.

 

[once_upon]

This is heartbreaking - at least he got to tell his mom if his success

Harmon's mom died after Steelers picked her son

Tiffany Saine, the mother of Steelers first-round pick Derrick Harmon, died Thursday night shortly after her son was selected No. 21 in the NFL draft.

www.espn.com

 

[ilovepaydays]

And not picked through 3rd round, even with 6 supplemental picks at the end of that round.

So………is there collusion going on?

Or is it Shedeur?

Or……is it Deion?

 

[once_upon]

Apparently he doesn't have an agent to do behind the scenes negotiating. His social media posts before and during the draft are not too flattering towards the draft. There is currently an abundance of QBs right now.

President Trump is appalled he hasn't been drafted in the first or second round.

Steelers are betting with an Aaron Rodgers (didn't they watch the Rodgers fiascos of last year?)

I'd say there are many things against Sanders

 

[ilovepaydays]

WAIT. It looks like Shedeur was just picked in the fifth round.

Cleveland Browns

OMG

 

[barbk]

WAIT. It looks like Shedeur was just picked in the fifth round.

Cleveland Browns

OMG

And not even the first QB the Browns picked.

 

[once_upon]

If Sanders can shut his month, be willing to do whatever needed (like tight end), be the back up QB learning the system he could turn out to be a great QB

Mahomes was near the last to be drafted. Spent several years learning from Alex Smith. Look at him now

 

[Cachoo]

A tidbit about what may have happened to Sanders:

TikTok - Make Your Day

Also this is a bit sobering when you look at quaterbacks and the draft. So many who were "sure bets" never made it or spent a season or two as a back-up. It is a staggering number who do not make a team. Check out the Draft History (Quarterbacks). If there was any question about Sanders I can see why teams would back off.

 

[ilovepaydays]

Isn’t Shedeur Sanders a bit shorter and smaller build than most starting quarterbacks in the NFL?

There have been many previous NFL draft favorites who had questionable morals, attitude, or work ethic issues who still went in the first or maybe second round with no problem.

The Browns’ war room after drafting Shedeur Sanders.

 

[Debbie S]

Well, the Ravens drafted a kicker. Could this be the end for Justin Tucker (who is being investigated by the NFL for sexual harassment)?

Speaking of investigations, the Ravens second-rpund pick, Mike Green from Marshall, has 2 sexual assault allegations under investigation. I am not happy. Surely there could have been some good defensive players who aren't abusers?

 

[Cachoo]

Quarterbacks
Year No. Round Pick Player Name Team College
2024 1 1 1 1 Caleb Williams Bears USC
2 1 2 2 Jayden Daniels Commanders Louisiana State
3 1 3 3 Drake Maye Patriots North Carolina
4 1 8 8 Michael Penix Falcons Washington
5 1 10 10 J.J. McCarthy Vikings Michigan
6 1 12 12 Bo Nix Broncos Oregon
7 5 15 150 Spencer Rattler Saints South Carolina
8 5 36 171 Jordan Travis Jets Florida State
9 6 17 193 Joe Milton Patriots Tennessee
10 6 42 218 Devin Leary Ravens Kentucky
11 7 25 245 Michael Pratt Packers Tulane
2023 1 1 1 1 Bryce Young Panthers Alabama
2 1 2 2 C.J. Stroud Texans Ohio State
3 1 4 4 Anthony Richardson Colts Florida
4 2 2 33 Will Levis Titans Kentucky
5 3 5 68 Hendon Hooker Lions Tennessee
6 4 25 127 Jake Haener Saints Fresno State
7 4 26 128 Stetson Bennett Rams Georgia
8 4 33 135 Aidan O'Connell Raiders Purdue
9 5 4 139 Clayton Tune Cardinals Houston
10 5 5 140 Dorian Thompson-Robinson Browns UCLA
11 5 14 149 Sean Clifford Packers Penn State
12 5 29 164 Jaren Hall Vikings Brigham Young
13 6 11 188 Tanner McKee Eagles Stanford
14 7 22 239 Max Duggan Chargers Texas Christian
2022 1 1 20 20 Kenny Pickett Steelers Pittsburgh
2 3 10 74 Desmond Ridder Falcons Cincinnati
3 3 22 86 Malik Willis Titans Liberty
4 3 30 94 Matt Corral Panthers Mississippi
5 4 32 137 Bailey Zappe Patriots Western Kentucky
6 5 1 144 Sam Howell Commanders North Carolina
7 7 20 241 Chris Oladokun Steelers South Dakota State
8 7 26 247 Skylar Thompson Dolphins Kansas State
9 7 41 262 Brock Purdy 49ers Iowa State
2021 1 1 1 1 Trevor Lawrence Jaguars Clemson
2 1 2 2 Zach Wilson Jets Brigham Young
3 1 3 3 Trey Lance 49ers North Dakota State
4 1 11 11 Justin Fields Bears Ohio State
5 1 15 15 Mac Jones Patriots Alabama
6 2 32 64 Kyle Trask Buccaneers Florida
7 3 2 66 Kellen Mond Vikings Texas A&M
8 3 3 67 Davis Mills Texans Stanford
9 4 28 133 Ian Book Saints Notre Dame
10 6 34 218 Sam Ehlinger Colts Texas
2020 1 1 1 1 Joe Burrow Bengals Louisiana State
2 1 5 5 Tua Tagovailoa Dolphins Alabama
3 1 6 6 Justin Herbert Chargers Oregon
4 1 26 26 Jordan Love Packers Utah State
5 2 21 53 Jalen Hurts Eagles Oklahoma
6 4 16 122 Jacob Eason Colts Washington
7 4 19 125 James Morgan Jets Florida International
8 5 21 167 Jake Fromm Bills Georgia
9 6 10 189 Jake Luton Jaguars Oregon State
10 7 10 224 Cole McDonald Titans Hawaii
11 7 17 231 Ben DiNucci Cowboys James Madison
12 7 26 240 Tommy Stevens Saints Mississippi State
13 7 30 244 Nate Stanley Vikings Iowa
2019 1 1 1 1 Kyler Murray Cardinals Oklahoma
2 1 6 6 Daniel Jones Giants Duke
3 1 15 15 Dwayne Haskins Redskins Ohio State
4 2 10 42 Drew Lock Broncos Missouri
5 3 36 100 Will Grier Panthers West Virginia
6 4 2 104 Ryan Finley Bengals North Carolina State
7 4 31 133 Jarrett Stidham Patriots Auburn
8 5 28 166 Easton Stick Chargers North Dakota State
9 5 29 167 Clayton Thorson Eagles Northwestern
10 6 5 178 Gardner Minshew Jaguars Washington State
11 6 24 197 Trace McSorley Ravens Penn State
2018 1 1 1 1 Baker Mayfield Browns Oklahoma
2 1 3 3 Sam Darnold Jets USC
3 1 7 7 Josh Allen Bills Wyoming
4 1 10 10 Josh Rosen Cardinals UCLA
5 1 32 32 Lamar Jackson Ravens Louisville
6 3 12 76 Mason Rudolph Steelers Oklahoma State
7 4 8 108 Kyle Lauletta Giants Richmond
8 5 34 171 Mike White Cowboys Western Kentucky
9 6 25 199 Luke Falk Titans Washington State
10 6 29 203 Tanner Lee Jaguars Nebraska
11 7 1 219 Danny Etling Patriots Louisiana State
12 7 2 220 Alex McGough Seahawks Florida International
13 7 31 249 Logan Woodside Bengals Toledo
2017 1 1 2 2 Mitchell Trubisky Bears North Carolina
2 1 10 10 Patrick Mahomes Chiefs Texas Tech
3 1 12 12 Deshaun Watson Texans Clemson
4 2 20 52 DeShone Kizer Browns Notre Dame
5 3 23 87 Davis Webb Giants California
6 3 40 104 C.J. Beathard 49ers Iowa
7 4 29 135 Joshua Dobbs Steelers Tennessee
8 5 28 171 Nathan Peterman Bills Pittsburgh
9 6 32 215 Brad Kaaya Lions Miami (FL)
10 7 35 253 Chad Kelly Broncos Mississippi
2016 1 1 1 1 Jared Goff Rams California
2 1 2 2 Carson Wentz Eagles North Dakota State
3 1 26 26 Paxton Lynch Broncos Memphis
4 2 20 51 Christian Hackenberg Jets Penn State
5 3 29 91 Jacoby Brissett Patriots North Carolina State
6 3 31 93 Cody Kessler Browns USC
7 4 2 100 Connor Cook Raiders Michigan State
8 4 37 135 Dak Prescott Cowboys Mississippi State
9 4 41 139 Cardale Jones Bills Ohio State
10 5 25 162 Kevin Hogan Chiefs Stanford
11 6 12 187 Nate Sudfeld Redskins Indiana
12 6 16 191 Jake Rudock Lions Michigan
13 6 26 201 Brandon Allen Jaguars Arkansas
14 6 32 207 Jeff Driskel 49ers Louisiana Tech
15 7 2 223 Brandon Doughty Dolphins Western Kentucky
2015 1 1 1 1 Jameis Winston Buccaneers Florida State
2 1 2 2 Marcus Mariota Titans Oregon
3 3 11 75 Garrett Grayson Saints Colorado State
4 3 25 89 Sean Mannion Rams Oregon State
5 4 4 103 Bryce Petty Jets Baylor
6 5 11 147 Brett Hundley Packers UCLA
7 7 33 250 Trevor Siemian Broncos Northwestern
2014 1 1 3 3 Blake Bortles Jaguars Central Florida
2 1 22 22 Johnny Manziel Browns Texas A&M
3 1 32 32 Teddy Bridgewater Vikings Louisville
4 2 4 36 Derek Carr Raiders Fresno State
5 2 30 62 Jimmy Garoppolo Patriots Eastern Illinois
6 4 20 120 Logan Thomas Cardinals Virginia Tech
7 4 35 135 Tom Savage Texans Pittsburgh
8 5 23 163 Aaron Murray Chiefs Georgia
9 5 24 164 A.J. McCarron Bengals Alabama
10 6 2 178 Zach Mettenberger Titans Louisiana State
11 6 7 183 David Fales Bears San Jose State
12 6 18 194 Keith Wenning Ravens Ball State
13 6 37 213 Tajh Boyd Jets Clemson
14 6 38 214 Garrett Gilbert Rams Southern Methodist
2013 1 1 16 16 EJ Manuel Bills Florida State
2 2 7 39 Geno Smith Jets West Virginia
3 3 11 73 Mike Glennon Buccaneers North Carolina State
4 4 1 98 Matt Barkley Eagles USC
5 4 13 110 Ryan Nassib Giants Syracuse
6 4 15 112 Tyler Wilson Raiders Arkansas
7 4 18 115 Landry Jones Steelers Oklahoma
8 7 15 221 Brad Sorensen Chargers Southern Utah
9 7 28 234 Zac Dysert Broncos Miami (OH)
10 7 31 237 B.J. Daniels 49ers South Florida
11 7 43 249 Sean Renfree Falcons Duke
2012 1 1 1 1 Andrew Luck Colts Stanford
2 1 2 2 Robert Griffin Redskins Baylor
3 1 8 8 Ryan Tannehill Dolphins Texas A&M
4 1 22 22 Brandon Weeden Browns Oklahoma State
5 2 25 57 Brock Osweiler Broncos Arizona State
6 3 12 75 Russell Wilson Seahawks Wisconsin
7 3 25 88 Nick Foles Eagles Arizona
8 4 7 102 Kirk Cousins Redskins Michigan State
9 6 15 185 Ryan Lindley Cardinals San Diego State
10 7 36 243 B.J. Coleman Packers Tennessee-Chattanooga

 

[Cachoo]

So the above list are the QB's taken in the draft since 2013. Sometimes you have a great draft year like 2024 though not often. The thing is these young men usually had sparkling college careers and were often talked about as a sure thing on the next level. The reality is most won't make it. I'm curious to know the reasons Sanders fell so fast and so far. But I didn't see him as a sure thing than say like Andrew Luck who was the real deal coming out of college.

Even Mahomes....losing record in college, plays a style that does not suit the NFL, no footwork, smart with a big arm. How many would have bet on him? I hope Sanders proves people wrong.

 

[Rob]

A lot of commentary is out there that Sanders fall was due to racism, the need for white people to humble confident black men, etc., etc. There is definitely a problem with black men being labeled as arrogant or aggressive when they are confident or assertive. I saw a lot of confident and joyous young men get drafted in the first round, celebrating their hard work without any arrogance. But, is it merely confident or does it cross the line to arrogant when you brand yourself as “Legendary” before you have achieved numerous accolades. He’s got NIL $, but No Heisman, no National Championships. When you throw yourself a huge “Legendary” high end party (not just the NFL draft lounge or family on the couch) to celebrate your first round pick? Was his dad making too many comments or phone calls? It does seem the NFL teams decided to humble him, but he went pretty far over the top. Plus, not that many teams need a QB so his fall only required 4-5 people to see a red flag. I do agree that the anonymous assistant coach’s comments were crap. Either put your name on it or if was trash talk by an interested team, label it as such. Why drag the guy down by going to the media with that?

 

[once_upon]

Sanders came in to the Nebraska game with a puffed out chest, can't beat me attitude.

Let's just say it was more than just the normal game talk. And a big win for NE.

 

[ilovepaydays]

I think that many in the NFL have learned from what happened to past top draft favorites who were also personally problematic. Especially at quarterback. Johnny Manziel is probably the best example of this.

 

[Cachoo]

A lot of commentary is out there that Sanders fall was due to racism, the need for white people to humble confident black men, etc., etc. There is definitely a problem with black men being labeled as arrogant or aggressive when they are confident or assertive. I saw a lot of confident and joyous young men get drafted in the first round, celebrating their hard work without any arrogance. But, is it merely confident or does it cross the line to arrogant when you brand yourself as “Legendary” before you have achieved numerous accolades. He’s got NIL $, but No Heisman, no National Championships. When you throw yourself a huge “Legendary” high end party (not just the NFL draft lounge or family on the couch) to celebrate your first round pick? Was his dad making too many comments or phone calls? It does seem the NFL teams decided to humble him, but he went pretty far over the top. Plus, not that many teams need a QB so his fall only required 4-5 people to see a red flag. I do agree that the anonymous assistant coach’s comments were crap. Either put your name on it or if was trash talk by an interested team, label it as such. Why drag the guy down by going to the media with that?

He's an okay qb. He would need to be on level with Lamar, Patrick, Josh etc....for me to take a chance with him. His father could end up being a giant pain in the ***, his living out loud as he does may cause distractions within the team and then when I, as an owner or coach, criticized him the racism card would be hurled my way. It is so tough to win even with a cohesive team buying in....one bad apple. I hope he proves the owners wrong but I wouldn't have drafted him.

 

[once_upon]

I'm reminded of the kid a couple of years ago who hyped himself as a #1 or #2 pick. He had his own room at the draft filled with tens of his supporters, I'm not sure where he ended up being drafted. Obviously he's not playing at a high level or Id remember his name.

He was white.

I remember Eric Crouch who won a Heisman - he was drafted by St Louis Rams (tells you how long ago when Rams were St Louis and Kurt Warner played for them) also white. Anyway his ego was he would only accept QB as position. Wouldn't play tight end - he was better for a TE. Cut and searched for a team. Finally ended up in CFL and not at QB at that.

You gotta stuff your ego, have a fairly firm offered before the draft begins to be that arrogant. You can't tell me that the top 30 haven't had an offered before it is announced.