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And it should do so voluntarily. ?From a historical point of view, it is moscow that should return to Kyiv, and not vice versa
2022 Grand Prix Assignments - when do they come out?
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AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)
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Oh someone told me in a thread earlier this year that they were!
So, ANL can sink his teeth into him then? lol
sk9tingfan
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Phil Hersh just reported that they are delayed until a 6th spot is chosen, around mid-July
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Phil Hersh is saying selection is delayed until mid-July.
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What about Australia?
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I'm sure they'll find a 6th host. My guess is that the hold-up in selecting a 6th host is that they would prefer an eastern Pacific host (Korea, Philippines, Australia, New Zealand, Taiwan, Thailand) rather than a 3rd European host and are giving those countries a chance to see if they can pull something together. I'd bet dollars to donuts that Hungary has submitted a bid to host the 6th GP given that they did last year when Italy was chosen instead and how much they love to bid for ISU Championships.
Well, if ISA and Gold Coast almost had a sponsor lined up for 4CCs in January and the sponsor is still interested and the rink is available in November, it would be much easier to pull off an Australian GP than 4CCs - no need for a 2nd practice rink and a much shorter event. Same with any of the original Sydney options, for that matter.
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? ? Courchevel could host GP France I one week and GP France II the next. They do have experience with this sort of thing.
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Except that the host for IdF this year is Angers, not Courchevel or Grenoble. My instinct says if we get a 3rd European host it will be Hungary.
It does seem pretty clear that Korea isn't interested in hosting a GP, otherwise they would have submitted a bid and been named very fast.
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FFSG already has agreed to host a second JGP for the second season in a row (in Grenoble, Sept. 28-Oct. 1, 2022) after the Croatian Skating Federation was no longer able to host their original JGP in Zagreb.
BTW, @oubik was the one who posted on June 21 that the GP selection meeting likely was going to be delayed:
BTW, @oubik was the one who posted on June 21 that the GP selection meeting likely was going to be delayed:
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I'm so upset. They've known for months they need a 6th spot, it shouldn't be that hard if only an European country bids, give it to them. Don't tell us 3 days before that they aren't ready. And its not fair to the skaters, either.
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Not really. They didn't yank the Russia GP until the April ISU Council meeting, and they didn't announce China wouldn't be hosting until last month. They've had about 2.5 months to find a replacement for the Russia GP - and it was pretty quickly known that Finland would be bidding for it. They've had about 6 weeks to find a replacement for the China GP, and that's a tougher nut to crack since, ideally, it would be in Asia or the eastern Pacific, to maintain the continental balance. Plus, the other obvious fed to offer to host would be Italy and they're already hosting the GPF, so they might not want a GP a month earlier.
Also, chances are good that the skaters have a far better idea not only which GPs they'll be getting (especially the seeded ones), and the ones on the bubble will be happy to get one GP, maybe two if they're lucky, even if the assignments haven't been finalized yet. Getting a GP or not getting one won't really change their training and competition plans for the fall - if they don't have one, they'll wind up at Challenger events or at their regional/sectional qualifying events in the US, Canada and Japan.
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Grand Prix of Boomerang, perhaps?
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Still, it means that the first week of July has now become mid-July. It means they're having trouble. I would guess Korea hasn't asked, can't imagine why the ISU wouldn't jump at the chance, since they have a field of skaters to go and a rink and the Asian GP quota and it would be a great business opportunity.
The Korean Skating Fed lost its major sponsorship funding after the Olympics (in something of a scandal, if I recall). I believe this was a major financial blow, & I've assumed it was a significant part of why they didn't offer to host a GP when Cup of China was cancelled before.
Doesn't anyone think there is a lot of irony in the fact that the ISU elected a South Korean president for his financial acumen, when he wasn't able to help his own federation through this situation?
Don't get me wrong, his presentation definitely was the best out of the choices on the day... but ability to speak does not equal ability to do.
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Do we need them for something? Is fans’ desire to stare at GP lists that will inevitable change massively by the fall at the end of June instead of two weeks later in July a critical concern of someone? Critical enough to not give Asian/pacific skaters a fair shot at getting a home Grand Prix event? I think we’ve mixed up what the priority concerns are here.
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Finland's GP has not yet been announced yet - from June 14 in this thread:
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Can’t they simply limit the Grand Prix to 4 events? With no Russians skaters, the numerous retirements in ice dance and the state of the pairs field at the moment, honestly…
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There are more than enough deserving and capable dance teams to fill the 60 spots available in a normal GP season, even without the Russians or the normal retirements that come at the end of any Olympic cycle. Same for both singles disciplines and the 72 spots available. Pairs is going to be rough, maybe even ugly, filling the 48 open spots, but I'd rather see the GP commission lower the pairs fields to 6 or 7 teams than reduce the number of GP events to the detriment of the other disciplines.
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WE WANT OUR FULL GRAND PRIX SEASON 
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I think the skaters should be a priority, and that they should, by now, understand the impacts to their training schedules and budgets, such as when GP assignments would determine whether they'd need to go to qualifying competitions (entirely on their own dime) or be exempt from them, how many skaters would split the travel fees and lost training fees for coaches, etc. for GPs, when their coaches would be traveling for other skaters, how soon they'd need to peak, what CS events won't conflict with GP, when they'd get their first feedback from international judges, etc.
I think we can afford to wait two weeks if it means we could possibly get 6 events. The draw could be done without knowing a host; but then if it was cancelled, that would harm all the athletes assigned to that event and mess up all the seeding. Considering all the upheaval we've had in skating and event scheduling over the past couple years, a little time in July is relatively a small thing. I'll take a two-week wait for GP announcements over no JGP and worrying about whether there will be a Worlds any day.
Hersh already tweeted Filand got the old Russian spot, which leaves only the old China spot empty.
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Not totally confirmed yet.
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I would expect that there wouldn't be any issues with Finland having Russia's GP, if they want it.
Meanwhile, I sort of wonder if China's position on the GP altogether might be reconsidered? This is the third time in five years that they have cancelled for non-skating reasons, and though 2021 was understandable with other countries also struggling with the plague, all three were fairly last-minute cancellations. I'm sure other countries - and the ISU - are not thrilled at the number of times they have had to go looking for emergency replacements for China.
Meanwhile, I sort of wonder if China's position on the GP altogether might be reconsidered? This is the third time in five years that they have cancelled for non-skating reasons, and though 2021 was understandable with other countries also struggling with the plague, all three were fairly last-minute cancellations. I'm sure other countries - and the ISU - are not thrilled at the number of times they have had to go looking for emergency replacements for China.
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