2021-22 ISU Grand Prix assignments announced

[Vash01]

Tiffani Zagorski and Jonathan Guerreiro have withdrawn from Skate America

https://twitter.com/AnythingGOE/status/1448302452168613896

No!!! I was looking forward to seeing them there. Is either one injured?

 

[Sedge]

КОНТРОЛЬНЫЕ ПРОКАТЫ. ЧЕЛЯБИНСК. 2021

На ледовой арене «Трактор» в Челябинске прошли контрольные прокаты фигуристов сборной России. Это был премьерный показ программ, с которыми спортсмены будут соревноваться в олимпийском сезоне. В

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John had a recurrence of XXX and is still under Doctor's restrictions.

 

[love_skate2011]

Do we know if the withdrawal is due to injury or to visa problems?

I hope Z/G can compete in their 2nd event.

they already have a visa long time before.
If they need a fast replacement, only Davis / Smolkin are the easiest, she's american and just competed recently.

bronze in Skam and Silver in Canada is doable, SinKats and StepBukin are probably sweating.
Its not farfetched also for Davis/Smolkin to medal at Worlds sadly.

everyone was as pessimistic about Mishina / Galliamov

 

[Vash01]

КОНТРОЛЬНЫЕ ПРОКАТЫ. ЧЕЛЯБИНСК. 2021

На ледовой арене «Трактор» в Челябинске прошли контрольные прокаты фигуристов сборной России. Это был премьерный показ программ, с которыми спортсмены будут соревноваться в олимпийском сезоне. В

fsrussia.ru

John had a recurrence of XXX and is still under Doctor's restrictions.

So sad!

 

[Wyliefan]

they already have a visa long time before.
If they need a fast replacement, only Davis / Smolkin are the easiest, she's american and just competed recently.

bronze in Skam and Silver in Canada is doable, SinKats and StepBukin are probably sweating.
Its not farfetched also for Davis/Smolkin to medal at Worlds sadly.

everyone was as pessimistic about Mishina / Galliamov

You see them beating F-B/S? I'm not so sure.

 

[love_skate2011]

You see them beating F-B/S? I'm not so sure.

78+ SD and close to 120 FD is doable.
They are coached by Igor + improvements + nepotism

 

[Karen-W]

they already have a visa long time before.
If they need a fast replacement, only Davis / Smolkin are the easiest, she's american and just competed recently.

bronze in Skam and Silver in Canada is doable, SinKats and StepBukin are probably sweating.
Its not farfetched also for Davis/Smolkin to medal at Worlds sadly.

everyone was as pessimistic about Mishina / Galliamov

They're not getting the bronze at SkAm - not when Fournier-Beaudry/Sorensen and Smart/Diaz are both there. Plus, we don't even know if they're on the alternates list yet - per @haribobo's most recent alternate list, they might not be eligible for selection until some of the other skaters ranked ahead of them get 2 assignments.

BTW, bronze at SCI is also a stretch with Guignard/Fabbri, Fear/Gibson, and Smart/Diaz there not to mention Lajoie/Lagha and Green/Parsons.

 

[Karen-W]

78+ SD and close to 120 FD is doable.
They are coached by Igor + improvements + nepotism

That was one event and who knows what the judges on the GP will do with them, especially when they're competing against a bunch of other teams that they're on the same level with or nipping at the heels of like Smart/Diaz, Lajoie/Lagha and Green/Parsons. They're not beating F-B/S or F/G right now.

 

[RoseRed]

Yeah, D/S aren't eligible yet as replacements I don't think. They aren't in the top ten options. Though when it gets very close to an event, they sometimes will stretch that for a skater/team that trains close by, if it's complicated to get anyone else.

The list should be:

1. Reed/Ambrulevius - 2nd (IdF)
2. Nazarova/Nikitin - 2nd (NHK)
3. Shevchenko/Eremenko 2nd (NHK)
4. Kazakova/Reviya - 2nd (CoR)
5. Shanaeva/Naryzhnyy - 2nd (SC)
6. Janse van Rensburg/Steffan - 2nd (IdF)
7. Wagret/Souquet-Basiege
8. Mueller/Dieck - 2nd (CoC)
9. Skoptcova/Aleshin - 2nd (CoR)
10. Ushakova/Nekrasov

Next would be Orihara/Pirinen, then Davis/Smolkin.

I don't know if any of the top ten are currently in North America, or how easy it would be for any of them to enter the US. If none of them can, then D/S could get the spot possibly.

 

[Karen-W]

Yeah, D/S aren't eligible yet as replacements I don't think. They aren't in the top ten options. Though when it gets very close to an event, they sometimes will stretch that for a skater/team that trains close by, if it's complicated to get anyone else.

Right but since we know that Reed/Ambrulevicius are back in Montreal training, I think it would be just as easy for them, plus there's a huge group from IAM already at SkAm.

 

[PRlady]

I wish the Georgians could be invited to SA but I guess they would have visa issues.

 

[RoseRed]

Right but since we know that Reed/Ambrulevicius are back in Montreal training, I think it would be just as easy for them, plus there's a huge group from IAM already at SkAm.

They aren't in Montreal right now though - they're at the Budapest Trophy. That's the only reason I'm unsure about them. If they do need a visa, it might be a problem to get it.

 

[Rhumba d’Amour]

Right but since we know that Reed/Ambrulevicius are back in Montreal training, I think it would be just as easy for them, plus there's a huge group from IAM already at SkAm.

And—Alison was born in the US and presumably retains her US passport. Plus she and Saulius trained in the US up until recently, with Zueva in FL. I think they would be the easiest to invite.

 

[Karen-W]

Yeah, D/S aren't eligible yet as replacements I don't think. They aren't in the top ten options. Though when it gets very close to an event, they sometimes will stretch that for a skater/team that trains close by, if it's complicated to get anyone else.

The list should be:

1. Reed/Ambrulevius - 2nd (IdF)
2. Nazarova/Nikitin - 2nd (NHK)
3. Shevchenko/Eremenko 2nd (NHK)
4. Kazakova/Reviya - 2nd (CoR)
5. Shanaeva/Naryzhnyy - 2nd (SC)
6. Janse van Rensburg/Steffan - 2nd (IdF)
7. Wagret/Souquet-Basiege
8. Mueller/Dieck - 2nd (CoC)
9. Skoptcova/Aleshin - 2nd (CoR)
10. Ushakova/Nekrasov

Next would be Orihara/Pirinen, then Davis/Smolkin.

I don't know if any of the top ten are currently in North America, or how easy it would be for any of them to enter the US. If none of them can, then D/S could get the spot possibly.

R/A are at Budapest Trophy this week but they train at IAM, so they're NA-based and we know Reed has a US passport. M/D are in Moscow but they have German passports so getting into the US shouldn't be an issue. JvR/S train in Oberstdorf so there wouldn't be an issue getting into the US. Not use where the Ukrainians or French train, I assume the rest of the Russians are based in Moscow or St Petersburg.

 

[ostile17]

Right but since we know that Reed/Ambrulevicius are back in Montreal training, I think it would be just as easy for them, plus there's a huge group from IAM already at SkAm.

But Reed/Ambrulevicius are entered in the Budapest Trophy which starts tomorrow, so they are not currently in Montreal

2nd Budapest Trophy 2021

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

Does the finn team already have two assignments?

 

[Sylvia]

As of Oct. 13:
Ice Dance grid

As of Oct. 12:
Men's grid

Unchanged since Oct. 1:
Women's grid
Pairs grid

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

As of Oct. 13:
Ice Dance grid

As of Oct. 12:
Men's grid

Unchanged since Oct. 1:
Women's grid
Pairs grid

Nothing for Finns in dance? Hope they get it. Plentyyyyyyyyyyyyy of team Russia all over

 

[Karen-W]

Does the finn team already have two assignments?

I don't think TurVer is on the alternate list because they didn't make the FD at Worlds last year and missed a lot of comps the last full season due to injury.

 

[Karen-W]

But Reed/Ambrulevicius are entered in the Budapest Trophy which starts tomorrow, so they are not currently in Montreal

2nd Budapest Trophy 2021

So they fly from Budapest to Las Vegas instead of Montreal, lol.

 

[ostile17]

So they fly from Budapest to Las Vegas instead of Montreal, lol.

Of course they could, lol. I thought you meant they were currently in Montreal.

 

[meggonzo]

I didn't think the host has to invite the next in line on the alternate list? I would put my money on Davis/Smolkin getting the spot.

 

[Sylvia]

"Daniil Samsonov withdrew from the stage in the United States [Skate America] for medical reasons. Daniil received a visa, but health problems, unfortunately, do not allow him to have time to prepare and take part," said Kogan.

Стало известно, почему Самсонов снялся с этапа Гран-при в США

Российский фигурист Даниил Самсонов снялся с этапа Гран-при в США из-за проблем со здоровьем, сообщил РИА Новости генеральный директор Федерации фигурного... РИА Новости Спорт, 11.10.2021

rsport.ria.ru

 

[Hanna]

I don't think TurVer is on the alternate list because they didn't make the FD at Worlds last year and missed a lot of comps the last full season due to injury.

I don't think this makes sense though, as there are plenty of other teams in the top10 who have competed even less.

 

[RoseRed]

I didn't think the host has to invite the next in line on the alternate list? I would put my money on Davis/Smolkin getting the spot.

The rules state that they need to pick from the next ten on the list, not next in line. But D/S aren't in the next ten.

 

[RoseRed]

I don't think this makes sense though, as there are plenty of other teams in the top10 who have competed even less.

No, I don't think so. In 2019-20, they only did one competition (Egna Dance Trophy), which didn't count for SB scores. In 2020-21, they only did Worlds, where they didn't make the FD and thus don't have a SB.

The replacement list from this season is done by SB scores from 2019-20 and 2020-21.

 

[azcalder]

R/A are at Budapest Trophy this week but they train at IAM, so they're NA-based and we know Reed has a US passport. M/D are in Moscow but they have German passports so getting into the US shouldn't be an issue. JvR/S train in Oberstdorf so there wouldn't be an issue getting into the US. Not use where the Ukrainians or French train, I assume the rest of the Russians are based in Moscow or St Petersburg.

I spoke with JvR/S at the LPIDI in Norwood. They spent six weeks this summer training in Novi with Igor's group.

 

[Frau Muller]

Tiffani Zagorski and Jonathan Guerreiro have withdrawn from Skate America

https://twitter.com/AnythingGOE/status/1448302452168613896

Why??? Sorry about THEM but also about not getting to see their reportedly-new FD by Christopher Dean. It wasn’t ready at Test skates. Now Z/G w/draw from SkAm. What’s up?

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

The rules state that they need to pick from the next ten on the list, not next in line. But D/S aren't in the next ten.

huh? For reals?

Does Rostelecom know of this rule??????

tee-hee

 

[Hanna]

No, I don't think so. In 2019-20, they only did one competition (Egna Dance Trophy), which didn't count for SB scores. In 2020-21, they only did Worlds, where they didn't make the FD and thus don't have a SB.

The replacement list from this season is done by SB scores from 2019-20 and 2020-21.

Thank you! I could have sworn that for example Ushakova/Nekrasov have showed up almost nowhere in the last couple of years. But I didn't check, it was just based on my memory. And it's a moot point anyway as based on this criteria T/V have no result at all.

Although has the system changed at some point because I could've sworn that in the previous years the SBs of the current season were taken into account when considering replacements?