Hi spikydurian, Glad you enjoy Patrick Chan. I enjoy some of his skating too, and I'm sure he is working hard on improving his artistry and musicality. Emdee makes good points and its wonderful for her how much she loves watching Patrick. However, for Emdee to state that those who "snipe at him are just jealous," is clearly an extreme and overly defensive comment for her to make. Ziggy's critiques are not "snipes" and neither are most of the critical comments I've seen in the thread. No one is in there lambasting Patrick, IMO.