Netflix Ice Dancing Documentary (C/B, G/P, F-B/C)

What's interesting is that each of the men came from what was then considered a "lifelong partnership" up until the splits, Bates with Samuelson (2000-2011, from juvenile-senior), Poirier with Crone (2001-2011, not sure at what level they started), and Guillaume Cizeron with Papadakis (2004-2022 actively, from the time they were children). Fournier Beaudry skated with Sorensen for a dozen years (2012-2024), Papadakis only with Cizeron, and Chock was the short-timer with five seasons with Zuerlein and only one short starter partnership before him.

Serial monogamists, all.

I think I'd missed this 2023 article (scroll) where Chock said that Poirier was one of the skaters who contacted her after her split with Zuerlein. (Todd Gilles, who paired with Samuelson or a short time after Bates, was the other.) That would have changed the Ice Dance trajectory had Chock and Poirier made a cross-border partnership.
 
There’s also going to be a fictional series about an ice dancer called Finding Her Edge.


Thank you Skating Santa for these belated gifts!
 
I think I'd missed this 2023 article (scroll) where Chock said that Poirier was one of the skaters who contacted her after her split with Zuerlein. (Todd Gilles, who paired with Samuelson or a short time after Bates, was the other.) That would have changed the Ice Dance trajectory had Chock and Poirier made a cross-border partnership.
And one of the skaters Piper Gilles contacted between splitting with Donohue and teaming with Poirier was Mark Hanretty, but he was burned out on competitive ice dance and not interested in trying out with anyone.
 
There’s also going to be a fictional series about an ice dancer called Finding Her Edge.


Thank you Skating Santa for these belated gifts!
Wow, Netflix is really leaning into Olympic season here!
 
Anyone have a WSJ subscription who can summarize John Anderson's review? https://www.wsj.com/arts-culture/te...iew-skating-to-the-podium-on-netflix-50a57e75

Here’s an excerpt:

In addition to displaying the spectacular ice-dancing by all during the various Grand Prix competitions that lead up to the Olympics, “Glitter & Gold” provides some genuine insight into the minds and politics behind the sport’s highest level of competition. The skaters all display an almost superhuman ability to smile through adversity—the occasional flop, a mishap with a costume, a bad ruling. Only in Helsinki do teams hold a press conference about their ridiculously low scores, and since the skaters are in agreement—and willing to defy the judges—it seems valid. Especially given the skaters’ relationship with judges in general. Seemingly blank of look and ample of bottom, they are invited into practice sessions when new routines are being developed; they are asked for advice on what they think works or doesn’t. And their input is welcomed, wisely. But it seems a bit like a criminal defense attorney polling the jury in advance about what will win him an acquittal.
The stiff-upper-lip approach does come to seem as much about the skaters’ frame of mind as it does public perception about their good-sportsmanship and character. Director Walsh is never invasive—these people would never let her be. But she does delve into the personal lives of her subjects off the ice. And she does capture enough candid moments to provide a portrait of perfectionist people—who, like opera stars, have to be great actors while also doing astounding things with their physical gifts.
 
I just spent my morning watching the 3 episodes. No scoop, no scandal, nothing really new. Still, it's interesting and well conceived, although the "what's happening backstage and at practice" is very toned down compared to what media can sometimes witness. But I thought it would be very cringe worthy and it's not, I mean not all the time :lol: Kudos to Rippon for being his usual blunt and funny self. Lipinsky isn't bad either. I won't comment any further until people have watched it, despite that would not be real spoiling. My fave moment is... when one my websites reporters is filmed at a press conference :rofl:
 
I just spent my morning watching the 3 episodes. No scoop, no scandal, nothing really new. Still, it's interesting and well conceived, although the "what's happening backstage and at practice" is very toned down compared to what media can sometimes witness. But I thought it would be very cringe worthy and it's not, I mean not all the time : lol: Kudos to Rippon for being his usual blunt and funny self. Lipinsky isn't bad either. I won't comment any further until people have watched it, despite that would not be real spoiling.
The biggest (non) surprise is confirmation of Evan and his back problems. He's looked so stiff all season, and it's confirmed here they've had big issues especially in the lead-up to and following practice at Skate America.
 
A clip shared by Adam that also features Madi Hubbell (they talk about citizenship challenges & country hopping):
 
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Just finished watching.

Piper made me cry speaking about her mom’s cancer and her cancer. :(

Adam was hilarious speaking about citizenship and ice dancers. :lol:

I also LOL’ed at Coach Madison speaking about how Chock/Bates finished 4th (off the podium) in Beijing without saying that she was the one to beat them for the bronze. :lol:

The flowchart of ice dance was funny too.

I really enjoyed it.
 
Just finished watching.

Piper made me cry speaking about her mom’s cancer and her cancer. :(

Adam was hilarious speaking about citizenship and ice dancers. :lol:

I also LOL’ed at Coach Madison speaking about how Chock/Bates finished 4th (off the podium) in Beijing without saying that she was the one to beat them for the bronze. :lol:

The flowchart of ice dance was funny too.

I really enjoyed it.
I cracked up laughing at that because there was something similar yet far more detailed explaining the complex web of relationships in ice dance globally floating around on social media last spring.

I enjoyed it for the most part, but the part that really jumped out at me was Hanretty's talking head post-Finlandia RD where he basically was all "rationally, I can explain the levels they got but... it's just not right because of who THESE teams are" and I just shook my head, thinking to myself that any non-figure skating fan who watches this series & then if there's any judging controversy at the Olympics is going to come away more convinced than ever that there's absolutely nothing real or valid in the sport and it's all based on reputation & longevity.
 
I thought Hanretty was fine pointing out that the uneven distribution of the judging was questionable. Like, if you want to be harsh now in calls, you need to do this across the board, not at some random GPs but not at others. It was interesting, also because it collapsed the narrative of G/P vs. FB/C they had hyped up and became Piper and Guillaume against the tech panel.

Otherwise I was glad to have watched this, it was nicely done IMO. Appreciated that they got into the problematic aspects of FB/C without doing some sort of villain cut. The power dynamics as presented were interesting, I thought? The Canadians and French seemed pretty evenly invested in their projects, working together to get it all going, all partners contributing significant parts. Whereas Madi Chock perhaps by necessity at this point seems like the clear leader with C/B. Evan seems understandably focused on just surviving from day to day.
 
Does anyone know if they will do an episode on the Olympics? When Katie Walsh did her series on Simone Biles, they had a gap between the pre-Olympic episodes and the final one. Netflix got them access just outside the competition floor. 🤞🤞🤞

I think it’s done pretty well. Each of the top teams has their story told and it’s believable. I had to laugh at how many times Guillaume made sure we knew that he and Laurence are best friends. We never saw Nik live, right?

Adam Rippon is a gift to this documentary, love that Scott and the other Maddie get airtime, and Mark Hanretty’s comments about the rational for the Base and Level 1 scoring at Finlandia cracked me up.

And way to go to the editors for playing up Maddie’s long skirt and then showing Laurence getting tripped by hers at the GPFinal!
 
I was sick home from work today so watched it all.

It was very well produced and great to see lots of training moments. I found it interesting and learnt more about the skaters. And they didn't brush aside the controversies too much. The various stories would translate to a movie very easily.

The whole discussion about dresses was interesting. Particularly so much made about Madi's dress but Laurence's dress was the undoing at the GP Final.

I think it was disappointing that they didn't talk about the other couples much though which I think would have provided other contexts in relation to the competitions. Although I assume that is because it would have required contracts, etc.

I am hoping there is an Olympics follow up.
 
I was annoyed that it wasn’t made clear that the Brits or Italians could easily medal. With five out of six North American skaters, they made it seem as if France was the only Euro team that could medal. The only time other teams were mentioned was in the foreign-partner segment.

Adam was very funny. I don’t listen to podcasts but I’d listen to him if it weren’t for Ashley, whom I just can’t stand.
 

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