Let's Talk Movies #36 - 2020 - Yep it is a new decade

[manhn]

The interesting thing is that the movie is doing well domestically but not so great internationally. All this talk about it being too “woke”, but maybe Superman is too American?

 

[Buzz]

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[vgerdes]

It's still baffling to me that certain people would be all up in arms about Superman being woke just because they decided to change his tag line. (And don't even get me started on the term "woke." It's deeply offensive to me in and of itself. But that's a completely different discussion.) I guess I'm just not understanding where this tempest in a teacup came from. It's an alien concept to me. LOL.

 

[Tesla]

It's still baffling to me that certain people would be all up in arms about Superman being woke just because they decided to change his tag line. (And don't even get me started on the term "woke." It's deeply offensive to me in and of itself. But that's a completely different discussion.) I guess I'm just not understanding where this tempest in a teacup came from. It's an alien concept to me. LOL.

Same. There is just so much I can't wrap my head around and understand.

 

[Jay42]

The thing is Truth, Justice and the American Way wasn't even originally Superman's catchphrase. It was just truth and justice originally on the Superman radio serial that started in the late 30's, they added the American Way part during WW2 for propaganda reasons and brought it back for the George Reeves show in the 50's for the same reason. It was kind of in and out of the various Superman things until the movie came out where Clark mentions in the movie to Lois that he fights for truth, justice and the American way but it didn't show up in comics again until the 90's. Smallville and Superman Returns didn't use it, though Smallville has Clark saying truth, justice and other stuff at one point. In the comics Superman renounces his US citizenship in 2011 because "truth, justice the American way isn't enough anymore" and he wants to make a bigger commitment to the planet at large. Superman and Lois on the CW referenced the catchphrase but didn't use it. DC officially changed Superman's catchphrase to "Truth, Justice and a Better Tomorrow" a few years ago which puts Superman closer to the original vision Siegel and Shuster had for him when they created the character.

 

[Vash01]

Has anyone seen the movie Sovereigns? Lawrence O’Donnell is raving about it. So I guess I will see it.

 

[Aussie Willy]

Based on the comments here I did go and see Superman today. I enjoyed it. I felt it was much better than the Henry Cavill movies (they were just way too dark even though Cavill was ). I did like the dog (almost the canine version of the goats from Thor). David Corenswet who I thought was very good reminded me a bit of Christopher Reeves in his voice and Nicholas Hoult was suitably psycho as Lex Luthor. The action scenes were pretty exciting. So overall I was glad I saw it and came away satisfied with my movie experience.

 

[jenny12]

I saw two movies recently: Superman and Sorry, Baby. I thought Superman was fun overall and David Corenswet and Rachel Brosnahan had a really nice chemistry. I actually would have liked more scenes between them and wish the film kind of leaned into a a bit of the romantic comedy element that was in the Donner film. I thought Nicholas Hoult was a really good Lex and loved his unabashed hater-ism and Edi Gathegi was great as well. I do think there were way too many characters which often made the plot quite messy and some of the editing took away from some of the more potentially powerful moments but ultimately it was a fun summer movie. I also enjoyed how John Williams’s classic score was used.

Sorry, Baby is a smaller, independent film and a debut from writer/director Eva Victor. It was a moving film about the impact of past trauma featuring a beautiful friendship between the two characters played by Eva Victor and Naomi Ackie. The film does meander at some points but overall it is worth watching.

 

[Vash01]

Based on the comments here I did go and see Superman today. I enjoyed it. I felt it was much better than the Henry Cavill movies (they were just way too dark even though Cavill was ). I did like the dog (almost the canine version of the goats from Thor). David Corenswet who I thought was very good reminded me a bit of Christopher Reeves in his voice and Nicholas Hoult was suitably psycho as Lex Luthor. The action scenes were pretty exciting. So overall I was glad I saw it and came away satisfied with my movie experience.

I will see Superman before Sovereigns because the latter is not running anywhere near me. I hope I can see it next week though because after that I will be away for three weeks.

 

[ilovepaydays]

The reviews are coming out on Rotten Tomatoes!

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