Russian Figure Skater tests positive for drugs - delays ceremony for team medals

[Karen-W]

I'm pretty sure it was someone from the IOC to InsideTheGames.biz. I don't think that's a big deal though. It was inevitable that her status was going to be made public.

What I consider a big deal is that the audio from the hearing with the Russian Disciplinary Anti-Doping Commission was leaked to a Russian opposition outfit financed by Mikhail Khodorkovsky(fun fact, Eteri used to like him on facebook). Without this article nobody would know about the "grandfather's glass" defense.

Камилу Валиеву решили не отстранять от Олимпийских игр

Мы узнали, как ее защита объясняла допинг в пробе

dossier.center

I find it baffling why nobody(in Russia) talks about this. I find it odd how it seems nobody has tried to track down who leaked the audio. Is it just taboo to talk about the Dossier Center in any capacity? The leak had to have come from someone at RUSADA unless the audio was transferred to WADA,ISU,IOC etc for the CAS hearing and then leaked.

I have absolutely zero indication for who could be the leaker. But there was a RUSADA advisory board member who resigned within a week of the Ukraine war starting that I could easily see leaking the audio if he had access to it.

Independent Iljukov quits RUSADA Supervisory Board over Russian invasion of Ukraine
"Just want to inform you that I decided to resign from RUSADA Asvisory Board where I served (on WADA recommendation) as an independant member since 2020. My decision is partially dictated by personal reasons but I cannot deny that situation in Ukraine affected my decision."

Pretty sure you're wrong - but, clearly, it's too much effort for you to go read my DETAILED timeline of events as they happened which @Sylvia conveniently re-shared the link to just a few posts ago earlier today....

Russian Figure Skater tests positive for drugs - delays ceremony for team medals

Not to mention, the Romanians never denied giving the medication to Raducan and a few other girls who were also sick. There was no grandpa water cover up story. They straight up admitted that they messed up the dosage because Raducan shouldn't have been given the same dose as Amanar, who was an...

www.fsuniverse.net

 

[On My Own]

Russia already hasn’t been at 3 Olympic Games.

You know, at this point I kind of just accept you as part of the absurdism that figure skating seems to be going for.

 

[ChelleC]

Russia already hasn’t been at 3 Olympic Games.

You can keep saying this until Satan is doing triple axels in hell, but it's still untrue.

 

[Mafke]

baffling why nobody(in Russia) talks about this. I find it odd how it seems nobody has tried to track down who leaked the audio

Whenever you wonder why russians aren't doing something.... it's because no one told them to. A Ukrainian pointed that out to me (in a larger, different context) but it makes a lot of sense and has great explanatory power.

 

[caseyedwards]

You can keep saying this until Satan is doing triple axels in hell, but it's still untrue.

All Russian citizens are never going to be banned. It’s never going to happen.

 

[alice73]

Russia knows how to exploit Western legal system to their advantage, yet makes a mockery of it at every turn, as Russia isn’t truly held to civilized legal norms. It’s infuriating and disgraceful that they’re allowed to get away with it.

 

[airgelaal]

I read Shvetsky and Stolbova’s comments about Duhamel and was horrified. I understand they might not like what she said, but they crossed the line.
This doping scandal showed the best that there is in the world of russian figure skating

 

[Mafke]

ussian citizens are never going to be banned. It’s never going to happen

A very good reason to ignore international sports... sorry other athletes but if the governing bodies don't care about you it's not my job to....

 

[caseyedwards]

You know, at this point I kind of just accept you as part of the absurdism that figure skating seems to be going for.

Prove Russia was at 2018 2021 2022 games

 

[On My Own]

Prove Russia was at 2018 2021 2022 games

It is beyond my capacity to prove anything to you.

 

[LeafOnTheWind]

I knew it but I hoped it wouldn't be true.

AAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH

 

[Frau Muller]

I knew it but I hoped it wouldn't be true.

AAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH

Hi. I’m trying to follow the conversation @LeafOnTheWind . To what are you referring (“wouldn’t be true”)? Or just the further pause in time?

I just received this post from TSL: Dave interviews Christine Brennan in Switzerland:

As The Blade Turns - Christine Brennan on the Kamila Valieva CAS Hearing

The Kamila Valieva doping case has kept the sport of figure skating and the Olympic movement in limbo since the figure skating team event at the 2022 Olympic...

www.youtube.com

 

[LeafOnTheWind]

Hi. I’m trying to follow the conversation @LeafOnTheWind . To what are you referring (“wouldn’t be true”)? Or just the further pause in time?

Just an expression of frustration that once again they are going to weasel shit their way out of a very clear cut case of doping.

 

[Plisskin]

I read Shvetsky and Stolbova’s comments about Duhamel and was horrified. I understand they might not like what she said, but they crossed the line.
This doping scandal showed the best that there is in the world of russian figure skating

What did Stolbova say? I can only find what Tat and Shvetsky said.

 

[On My Own]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1707396249400348794

Hey Dave! Just in case you're reading this thread: I think you're ugly inside AND outside ?

 

[rhapsody]

In Nov, another trip to Switzerland for Brennan?

Since you posted TSL's interview with Christine, you should be well aware that she paid the tab herself. She can do what she pleases with her own money.

 

[Frau Muller]

Since you posted TSL's interview with Christine, you should be well aware that she paid the tab herself. She can do what she pleases with her own money.

Yes, I just found out last night, when I heard the interview! I posted the question at my 11am, well before the TSL interview appeared, around my 9pm.
She paid, not USA Today or another employer!

 

[Karen-W]

The only thing I really learned from that interview was that the one person in the skating world who likes the sound of their own voice more than Dave Lease is Christine Brennan.

 

[airgelaal]

What did Stolbova say? I can only find what Tat and Shvetsky said.

something like this

Spoiler: 18+

I would say you to f*** off, but I see you are already from there!

 

[coppertop1]

The more ugly Russians behave, the less I miss them. Keep them out until they learn to respect other people. No need for that

 

[Hedwig]

I am really not sure what I would do if Russians could compete again. As much as I love skating, I do not think I would be able to watch them.
Just reading about their cheating and manipulative and really evil ways is like a kick in the stomach. ?

I will miss skating though.

 

[LeafOnTheWind]

I was just thinking that it was nice when it was fun to watch Russian skaters. Now, not so much.

 

[Karen-W]

I was just thinking that it was nice when it was fun to watch Russian skaters. Now, not so much.

Nowadays, it's just a matter of how much exposed toxicity can one handle? It's fun when it's sniping on the guys for being more into their video games than practicing, but lately, all that we seem to be seeing is the very dark side of the sport in Russia.

 

[coppertop1]

I was just thinking that it was nice when it was fun to watch Russian skaters. Now, not so much.

I used to enjoy them but the more we learn about the ugliness and toxic nature of Russian skating, the harder it is to watch them.

 

[On My Own]

I always hated Russian skating!

 

[Frau Muller]

I was just thinking that it was nice when it was fun to watch Russian skaters. Now, not so much.

FYI, there is snarking in the ballet world too…especially about looks/weight, in schools.

 

[Hedwig]

I always hated Russian skating!

really? I loved many of it. Gordeeva, Berezhnaya - Kolyada- Tuktamysheva - but not any more

 

[On My Own]

Gordeeva

That's the only one I liked

 

[ninjapirate]

There's a case that I saw linked in a Russian forum of a Jamaican swimmer that trains in the US.

Jamaican Swimmer Mackenzie Headley Reprimanded By Doping Panel For Two Positive Tests
Jamaican swimmer MacKenzie Headley draws IADP reprimand

On the surface, it's worse than Valieva's case. The swimmer failed 2 seperate in competitions tests. They had multiple banned drugs in their system. The drugs in her system are ones you can really only find on the black market. GlaxoSmithKline stopped researching one of the drugs after it was shown to be carcinogenic. Another drug is a SARM which I know is popular in bodybuilding circles.

Now maybe there is a good explanation. If there is a tainted supplement out there then it would be nice to know which one it is.

This IADP panel is I'm pretty sure the Jamaican equivalent of the the Disciplinary Anti-Doping Committee in Russia. This ruling came after the Valieva ruling. And both rulings are pretty much exactly the same.

Did the Russian decision influence the Jamaican decision? Did WADA appeal the Jamaican decision? They have 21 days after receiving the reasoning of the decision to make their appeal(Section 5.3.4, also end of this news article).

If Valieva's legal team wanted to probe into how WADA enforces punishments into "protected persons", how much information could they request considering they would be looking into cases of "protected persons"? They definitely have reason to do so considering WADA is asking for maximum punishment.

 

[carriecmu0503]

Prove Russia was at 2018 2021 2022 games

Are you just totally ignorant? RUSSIAN girl/ women skaters won BOTH the 2018 and 2022 Olympics, and the RUSSIAN women's gymnastics team won the 2021 Olympics. STOP with the lunacy already. Thank you!