2023 World Team Trophy, Day 1

[Frau Muller]

No interest in watching this commercial event. Just reading bits - ILIA great and USA way out ahead of Korea & Japan!
USA 50 pts, above (2) Korea at 39 and Japan (3) at 36? France 4th with 43 pts.

ISU World Team Trophy in Figure Skating 2023

Any chance that WTT will ever happen in the USA…or is this mainly a Japanese Ca-Ching?

 

[Sylvia]

Team Standing after Day 1: https://results.isu.org/results/season2223/wtt2023/index.htm

Team USA 50 12+9 (Men SP) + 10+7 (Women SP) + 12 (RD)
Team Republic of Korea 39 11+3 (Men SP) + 12+6 (Women SP) + 7 (RD)
Team Japan 36 6+2 (Men SP) + 11+8 (Women SP) + 9 (RD)
Team France 34 10+8 (Men SP) + 5+3 (Women SP) + 8 (RD)
Team Italy 28 7+5 (Men SP) + 4+1 (Women SP) + 11 (RD)
Team Canada 26 4+1 (Men SP) + 9+2 (Women SP) + 10 (RD)

 

[SkateFanBerlin]

Jason Brown as one man cheer squad for Malinin. What happened to everyone else in the team?

It`s late there. To bed for early-morning practice and then competing.

 

[Sylvia]

Any chance that WTT will ever happen in the USA…or is this mainly a Japanese Ca-Ching?

Only TV Asahi & JSF are willing to host and put up the generous prize money.

USFS tried one time - KOSE Team Challenge Cup April 2016 in Spokane, Washington that was televised on CBS.

 

[Sylvia]

We won't know until after Peacock's Day 1 livestream is over.

Replay IS now available for 2 days.

 

[victorskid]

Replay IS now available for 2 days.

And for those who can access it, the videos are available on the ISU YouTube channel - that's where I'm watching the Women SP that I chose to sleep through

 

[sk8nlizard]

Gorgeous program for Haein! The only nitpick I have is with the caramel-colored bun cover/scrunchie she's got in her hair. That was distracting me through the whole program, lol.

I think the bottom of her hair might be that color now? I watched something someone here posted about a mini video of Team Korea and one of the ladies had hair with the last 6 inches died a blonde color. I assume it was Haein?
ETA : https://twitter.com/sydthepasserby/status/1646324026720280576
Just went back and watched it (some one posted it in the other WTT general info thread). It’s definitely Haein.

 

[sk8nlizard]

I know Isabeau has issues, but I'm highly irked that Kaori had a higher TES than Isabeau.

I haven’t looked at protocols, still trying to catch up from watching overnight but I thought both jumps in Isabeau’s combo looked suspect.
ETA: I just checked the protocol and her 3T in the combo was called under.

 

[sk8nlizard]

It is 9pm there, the ladies are probably tired and the pairs and dancers have to compete tomorrow as well. Jason may have just skated but he and Ilia have tomorrow off.

It is a bad look, though.

Not only that, this competition is mostly for fun, and the Japanese fans is what keeps this competition happening (and paying them the $$$). They should really have more people there than just Jason.

 

[skatingguy]

Keegan Messing, Canada
Grace Kelly by Mika

3T - lost his position in the air - big mess - hands down
3A
Fly Camel Spin 3
3Lz+2T
Ch Sit Spin 2
Step Sequence 4
Ch Combo Spin 3

Rough skate all around - couldn't control the jumps today.

79.75 = 3rd Place (98.75 at Worlds)

 

[skatingguy]

Kazuki Tomono, Japan
Happy Jazz

4T+3T
4S< - fall
Ch Sit Spin 4
3A - tight landing - fighting to keep the free leg off the ice
Fly Camel Spin 4
Ch Combo Spin 4
Step Sequence 3

He's so close to perfect, and so close to disaster. He's so fun to watch.

89.36 = 3rd Place (92.68 at Worlds)

 

[skatingguy]

Matteo Rizzo, Italy
Le parole lontane, Zitti e buoni

4T+2T - quadruple toeloop landed leaning forward
4Lo< - 3-turn out
Ch Camel Spin 4
3A
Ch Combo Spin 4 3
Step Sequence 4
Fly Sit Spin 4

Short program errors have been so costly for Rizzo this season.

88.01 = 4th Place (79.28 at Worlds)

 

[skatingguy]

Adam Siao Him Fa, France
Rain, In Your Black Eyes by Ezio Bosso

4Lz - fall
3A
4T+3T
Fly Camel Spin 4
Step Sequence 4
Ch Combo Spin 4
Ch Sit Spin 4

First time going for one of the bigger quadruples jumps that I can remember. Good event to get that type of element out at. The rest of the program was really good.

92.82 = 3rd Place (79.78 at Worlds)

 

[skatingguy]

Daniel Grassl, Italy
Silhouette by Aquilo

4Lz
3A
Fly Sit Spin 4
3Lz+3T< - 3-turn between the jumps
Ch Camel Spin 4
Step Sequence 3
Ch Combo Spin 4

Good skate for Grassl - much improved over his recent short programs.

89.81 = 4th Place (86.50 at Worlds)

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

Just waking back up. I will catch the men’s program now. you know I’m re-watching Anna from Italy she’s powerful if she could progress she could do really well.

 

[skatingguy]

Junhwan Cha, Republic of Korea
Michael Jackson Medley

4S
3Lz+3Lo
Fly Camel Spin 4
3A
Ch Sit Spin 4
Step Sequence 4
Ch Combo Spin 4

There is a new confidence in his skating. I think this program is great, but I want to see more next season.

101.33 = 1st Place (99.64 at Worlds)

 

[skatingguy]

Ilia Malinin, United States of America
I Put A Spell On You by Garou

4Lz+3T
4T
Ch Camel Spin 4
3A
Step Sequence 4
Fly Sit Spin 4
Ch Combo Spin 4

I hope Malinin considers keeping this program for next season. You can see how he clearly connects to this program, and keeping this program that he's comfortable will allow him to focus on developing a free skate to go with it.

105.90 = 1st Place (100.38 at Worlds)

 

[kwanfan1818]

Thank you so much for the pbp @skatingguy .

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

Oh dear gogo, I have no idea who will be Canada’s number one man next season. I guess I’ll just stick with my husband. .

 

[skatingguy]

Frankly? No. It was in Dortmund. It was a thank you for holding the event medal as far as I remember the skate and the competition

Fair enough - I thought that was the medal that Winkler/Lohse got, but it could have been both of them.

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

How did Judge number two give Jason a negative one for the first spin? Another judge gave it a +4.

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

Do the scores counts for seasons best for ISU? I guess they do, what about points for world standings? No?

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

Stefann Lindemann's World Bronze medal doesn't do it for you.

yep, and I saw him in person at a skate America back in the day

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

Why is the U.S. box so empty?

I noticed it last night, and I am noticing and now watching the men’s.

 

[skatingguy]

Do the scores counts for seasons best for ISU? I guess they do, what about points for world standings? No?

Seasons Best list, yes - World Standings, no.

 

[Wyliefan]

It is 9pm there, the ladies are probably tired and the pairs and dancers have to compete tomorrow as well. Jason may have just skated but he and Ilia have tomorrow off.

It is a bad look, though.

That was true for every team there, but Team USA was the only one that had their box empty out like that (as far as I could tell). It really was weird.

 

[kwanfan1818]

Frankly? No. It was in Dortmund. It was a thank you for holding the event medal as far as I remember the skate and the competition

Lindemann was on fire in Dortmund. I don't think he'd ever skated as well before or ever again, but he deserved that medal.

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

Do any of you think the scoring here should be different when factoring in the points allotted to pairs and dance? When you really analyze it it really comes down to the single skaters… As far as amassing points.

 

[skatingguy]

Team Standings

Rank	Team	Nation	Men	Men	Women	Women	Pairs	Pairs	Ice Dance	Ice Dance	Total Points
			SP	FS	SP	FS	SP	FS	RD	FD
1	Team United States of America	USA	12		10				12		50
			9		7
2	Team Republic of Korea	KOR	11		12				7		39
			3		6
3	Team Japan	JPN	6		11				9		36
			2		8
4	Team France	FRA	10		5				8		34
			8		3
5	Team Italy	ITA	7		4				11		28
			5		1
6	Team Canada	CAN	4		9				10		26
			1		2

 

[skatingguy]

Do any of you think the scoring here should be different when factoring in the points allotted to pairs and dance? When you really analyze it it really comes down to the single skaters… As far as amassing points.

That would be the point.