mtnskater
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I loved Tarasova and Morozov but Putin and Tutberidze doping scandal has ruined my fandom.And no one is going to force you.
I will continue to watch T/M skate wherever footage shows up of them.
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I loved Tarasova and Morozov but Putin and Tutberidze doping scandal has ruined my fandom.And no one is going to force you.
I will continue to watch T/M skate wherever footage shows up of them.
I’m sorry that those things ruined your fandom.I loved Tarasova and Morozov but Putin and Tutberidze doping scandal has ruined my fandom.
I have three passports without even needing skating as an excuse. The Irish Consulate in Sydney were very helpful with one of those if Tiff wants to pursue that avenue.That would mean a 4th citizenship for Tiff
She is also entitled to an Irish citizenship via her Irish grandma.
Truly a citizen of the World![]()
Also by the logic in this thread, nobody should have watched skating in the 80s when the Soviet Union and the GDR competed, but I don't really see anybody having cancelled their skating fandom back then cause Kati Witt competed in the OlympicsI’m sorry that those things ruined your fandom.
All I know is their skating still brings me joy (one of the few things in this world that does) and I will continue to watch. They can’t help where they were born and they sort of only ended up at Sambo 70 because they had a hard time getting ice time to practice and that could not happen again in an Olympic year. Also… when Putin first ended up president after Yeltsin suddenly resigned in 1999, Evgenia had turned 5 less than two weeks earlier and Vladimir only 7 a couple of months before.
There were plenty of times I hoped the world wasn’t judging my values by the actions of the president (the Bush and Trump years, so I try not to judge individual civilians by who the leader is, especially when it’s a dictator who first got power when said individuals were young kids.
I’m not trying to change your mind, but just putting it out there as another way to look at if and only if you want to.
No one has cancelled China’s skaters either. China also does not great things, has a state-run sports system, and although I can’t recall any doping cases, they have been caught falsifying ages in gymnastics (with the aside there are suspicions Sui and Han’s birthdays were fudged early in their career so they would be under or over age limits as needed.)Also by the logic in this thread, nobody should have watched skating in the 80s when the Soviet Union and the GDR competed, but I don't really see anybody having cancelled their skating fandom back then cause Kati Witt competed in the OlympicsThe state systems of Soviet Union and GDR were certainly just as bad as Putins Russia. Which was also not Kati Witts or Bestemianova & Bukins fault.
The Channel One Cup is a Russian domestic cheesefest, not an isu international competition or US domestic qualifying competition. I find know what it would be expected for US-based Peacock to carry it.
Also by the logic in this thread, nobody should have watched skating in the 80s when the Soviet Union and the GDR competed, but I don't really see anybody having cancelled their skating fandom back then cause Kati Witt competed in the OlympicsThe state systems of Soviet Union and GDR were certainly just as bad as Putins Russia. Which was also not Kati Witts or Bestemianova & Bukins fault.
This is about what is happening now, in the present moment. Actions we need to take NOW to help bring the end of death and destruction in Ukraine. I am personally canceling China too because of its shocking support of the Russian invasion/war. I expected it to at least condemn the invasion, which it has refused to do. China has a prominent “journalist” embedded with the Russian troops and the Chinese population is being fed the same propaganda of the Russians. Thomas Friedland has an excellent column in the NYT about how China is the one power that could stop the war. But of course it won’t because it has similar designs on taking Taiwan.No one has cancelled China’s skaters either. China also does not great things, has a state-run sports system, and although I can’t recall any doping cases, they have been caught falsifying ages in gymnastics (with the aside there are suspicions Sui and Han’s birthdays were fudged early in their career so they would be under or over age limits as needed.)
What does that have to do with them or any of the athletes. They worked their butts off for their achievements, and to be honest, all of these athletes owe their ability to that state sponsored system of Russia. That's where all of that high quality comes from.I loved Tarasova and Morozov but Putin and Tutberidze doping scandal has ruined my fandom.
Love the censorship.Well, looks like watching the Channel One Cup on YT is out of the question now since YT just announced the following:
"Our Community Guidelines prohibit content denying, minimizing or trivializing well-documented violent events, and we remove content about Russia's invasion in Ukraine that violates this policy.
In line with that, effective immediately, we are also blocking YouTube channels associated with Russian state-funded media, globally."
Yup, censorship.Well, looks like watching the Channel One Cup on YT is out of the question now since YT just announced the following:
"Our Community Guidelines prohibit content denying, minimizing or trivializing well-documented violent events, and we remove content about Russia's invasion in Ukraine that violates this policy.
In line with that, effective immediately, we are also blocking YouTube channels associated with Russian state-funded media, globally."
No, sanctions.Yup, censorship.
No, it has nothing to do with sanctions and everything to do with presenting one viewpoint. Because heaven forbid people develop a view that is opposite with the one view pushed by the Democrats/United States. Blocking a channel entirely, including its entertainment, is right in line with that other regimes do to control thought. Maybe they will block all Russian sports and maybe even Chinese, and present a narrative that pretends they never existed.No, sanctions.
you can watch here https://www.1tv.com/live. You can get all the different views on the world, as much as you like and as long as you like to watch. So no censorship, just one channel of distribution is shut down.Blocking a channel entirely, including its entertainment
People always love to cite that they are "private companies". If you only knew how much cooperation goes on between law enforcement and the Federal government with "private companies" like 23 & Me, in which most of the DNA samples are willingly given by customers for entertainment purposes.A private company decides not to platform misinformation and propaganda and it's Muh Censorsh1ps! every time.
I just tried to access this channel and I was told it was forbidden by my carrier.you can watch here https://www.1tv.com/live. You can get all the different views on the world, as much as you like and as long as you like to watch. So no censorship, just one channel of distribution is shut down.
When I posted the link, it worked. Now it's not working with firefox (same response as yours). Still working with Chrome. I guess there will be quite some back and forth regarding the accessibility of Russian websites. Sometimes not even VPN works.I just tried to access this channel and I was told it was forbidden by my carrier.
The ISU can really screw them and say that the competition is non-sanctioned and all the athletes who participate will lose eligibility for ISU events.RusFed's site is slow to load these days - March 11:
Кубок Первого канала: формат соревнований
Кубок Первого канала пройдет 25-27 марта в Саранске на льду "Саранск Арена". В рамках соревнований запланированы прыжковый фестиваль и командный турнир, где за призы будут бороться двеfsrussia.ru
The First Channel Cup will be held on March 25-27 in Saransk on the ice "Saransk Arena". As part of the competition, a jumping festival and a team tournament are planned, where two teams will compete for prizes.
Competition schedule:
March 25 jumping festival
March 26 short programs
March 27 free programs
Jump festival starts at 18.00, team competitions at 17.00.
More details about the rules of the competition and the lineups will be announced later. Not all athletes declared for participation in the jumping festival will be included in the teams.
This is what I get with Chromeyou can watch here https://www.1tv.com/live. You can get all the different views on the world, as much as you like and as long as you like to watch. So no censorship, just one channel of distribution is shut down.
It's a matter of personal choice for the potential viewer. I am sure some people would have watched video streams of domestic German competitions in the late 1930's or Zola Budd's races in South Africa in the early 1980's had that been possible.What does that have to do with them or any of the athletes. They worked their butts off for their achievements, and to be honest, all of these athletes owe their ability to that state sponsored system of Russia. That's where all of that high quality comes from.
This stuff just got very very real.This is what I get with Chrome
403 - Forbidden . That’s an error.
Client does not have access rights to the content so server is rejecting to give proper response. That’s all we know.
No one who will be at the channel one cup will probably ever compete again internationally anyway, so moot point, really.The ISU can really screw them and say that the competition is non-sanctioned and all the athletes who participate will lose eligibility for ISU events.
Will they still have twitter?All the Russians are saying good-bye on Instagram as it will be shut on March 14 in Russia
Most are moving to Telegram or VK.
Trusova is not participating in the Channel One Cup!No one who will be at the channel one cup will probably ever compete again internationally anyway, so moot point, really.