USFS' Athlete Selection Procedures for 2022 Olympics

[carriecmu0503]

H&D won the Free Dance. Well deserved. I think the new changes at the end really gave them that extra punch and made the program feel more Olympic-like. Encouraging that they won the PCS and the FD portion, at least.

C&B also clean, but it fell a bit flat towards the last third of the program relative to H&D. Will be interesting to see how this plays out in the Olympics.

I wonder if the RD will determine who wins bronze in Beijing. The FD scores for H&D, C&B and G&P will likely be within 1 point of each other. But the RD (especially the levels) could decide who wins bronze.

I highly doubt G and P will be going to the Olympics. They were 4th at Nationals and are in group 4 for priority. H and B were third and are in group 3. I would be shocked if H and B do not get the third spot.

 

[tony]

I highly doubt G and P will be going to the Olympics. They were 4th at Nationals and are in group 4 for priority. H and B were third and are in group 3. I would be shocked if H and B do not get the third spot.

Gilles and Poirier......

 

[VGThuy]

I highly doubt G and P will be going to the Olympics. They were 4th at Nationals and are in group 4 for priority. H and B were third and are in group 3. I would be shocked if H and B do not get the third spot.

They’re talking about Gilles/Poirier.

 

[Karen-W]

One last update now that the Men's FS is over:

	Group 1 Highest Priority	Group 2	Group 3	Group 4 Lowest Priority
CRITERIA FOR 2022 US CHAMPIONSHIPS	Placed in the top 3 AND	Placed in the top 5 AND	Placed in the top 3 OR	Placed in the top 5 OR
CRITERIA FOR 2021 INTERNATIONAL SCORES *	Consistently scored equal to Top 3 at 2021 Worlds M – 289.18	Consistently scored equal to Top 5 at 2021 Worlds M – 272.04 AND/OR scored once equal to Top 3 at 2021 Worlds	Consistently scored equal to Top 10 at 2021 Worlds M – 245.99 AND/OR scored once equal to Top 5 at 2021 Worlds	Consistently scored equal to Top 15 at 2021 Worlds M – 225.55 OR Scored once equal to Top 10 at 2021 Worlds

Men
Group 1 - Nathan Chen (320.88 Worlds 2021; 269.37 SkAm; 307.18 SCI; GPF) 1st 2022 Nationals
Group 2 - Vincent Zhou (70.51 Worlds 2021; 288.26 Cranberry; 284.23 CS Nebelhorn; 295.56 SkAm; 260.69 NHK; GPF) 3rd 2022 Nationals
Group 3 -

• Jason Brown (262.17 Worlds 2021; 262.52 CS Finlandia; 259.55 SCI; 264.20 IdF; GPF) 4th 2022 Nationals
• Ilia Malinin (214.64 JGP Courchevel 1; 245.35 JGP Austria; 222.55 CS Austria; JGPF) 2nd 2022 Nationals

Group 4 -

• Jimmy Ma (230.59 Cranberry; 233.58 US Classic; 228.12 SkAm; 195.09 CS Warsaw; 250.97 CS Golden Spin) 6th 2022 Nationals
• Camden Pulkinen (179.50 Cranberry; 208.99 US Classic; 204.24 CS Finlandia; 193.18 NHK; 237.97 Rostelecom) 5th 2022 Nationals

Others with International Assignments
Tomoki Hiwatashi (205.17 Cranberry; 213.11 CS Lombardia; 221.77 SCI; 217.08 NHK) withdrawn from Nationals 1/6
Max Naumov (223.15 Cranberry; 207.39 US Classic) withdrawn from Nationals 12/9
Yaroslav Paniot (210.84 Cranberry) withdrawn from Nationals 1/9, 7th place in SP
Eric Sjoberg (221.12 US Classic; 189.38 CS Warsaw; 212.77 CS Golden Spin) withdrawn from Nationals 1/7
Dinh Tran (176.72 US Classic)

 

[shuilee]

When is the Men's team announcement? Tonight, or 24 hrs from now? What an incredibly difficult decision to make!!!

 

[Allisanna]

When is the Men's team announcement? Tonight, or 24 hrs from now? What an incredibly difficult decision to make!!!

at 5:45pm CT

 

[Jammers]

When is the Men's team announcement? Tonight, or 24 hrs from now? What an incredibly difficult decision to make!!!

Yeah i wish we had 4 spots all four men would make great Olympians and deserve it.

 

[MacMadame]

Where? In the arena or just online?

 

[carriecmu0503]

Where? In the arena or just online?

I would imagine in the arena before the start of the exhibition?

 

[Vagabond]

Stick to the Selection Criteria and send the one with the higher international scores, or recognize reality?

What to do?

 

[Carolla5501]

. Have they announced the dance and pairs teams?!

 

[once_upon]

. Have they announced the dance and pairs teams?!

Yes. Dance C/B, H/D, H/B pairs: C-G/D and K/F

 

[Frau Muller]

. Have they announced the dance and pairs teams?!

Yes…as per USFS:

https://m.facebook.com/usfigureskating/

 

[MacMadame]

I would imagine in the arena before the start of the exhibition?

Those don't start until 6:30 pm though! (IOW, will anyone be there??)

 

[FiveRinger]

No official announcement yet? I guess USFSA is talking to their PR reps. I can’t wait to hear how they spin whatever deception they’re going to hit us with.

 

[Karen-W]

No official announcement yet? I guess USFSA is talking to their PR reps. I can’t wait to hear how they spin whatever deception they’re going to hit us with.

The announcement has always been scheduled for 5:45pm CT.

 

[FiveRinger]

The announcement has always been scheduled for 5:45pm CT.

I thought it was 5:45 EST. My time management for these championships has been a mess. I can’t keep up.

 

[DreamSkates]

Waiting on pins and needles...

 

[VGThuy]

One last update now that the Men's FS is over:

Group 1 Highest Priority	Group 2	Group 3	Group 4 Lowest Priority
CRITERIA FOR 2022 US CHAMPIONSHIPS	Placed in the top 3 AND	Placed in the top 5 AND	Placed in the top 3 OR	Placed in the top 5 OR
CRITERIA FOR 2021 INTERNATIONAL SCORES *	Consistently scored equal to Top 3 at 2021 Worlds M – 289.18	Consistently scored equal to Top 5 at 2021 Worlds M – 272.04 AND/OR scored once equal to Top 3 at 2021 Worlds	Consistently scored equal to Top 10 at 2021 Worlds M – 245.99 AND/OR scored once equal to Top 5 at 2021 Worlds	Consistently scored equal to Top 15 at 2021 Worlds M – 225.55 OR Scored once equal to Top 10 at 2021 Worlds

Men
Group 1 - Nathan Chen (320.88 Worlds 2021; 269.37 SkAm; 307.18 SCI; GPF) 1st 2022 Nationals
Group 2 - Vincent Zhou (70.51 Worlds 2021; 288.26 Cranberry; 284.23 CS Nebelhorn; 295.56 SkAm; 260.69 NHK; GPF) 3rd 2022 Nationals
Group 3 -

• Jason Brown (262.17 Worlds 2021; 262.52 CS Finlandia; 259.55 SCI; 264.20 IdF; GPF) 4th 2022 Nationals
• Ilia Malinin (214.64 JGP Courchevel 1; 245.35 JGP Austria; 222.55 CS Austria; JGPF) 2nd 2022 Nationals

Group 4 -

• Jimmy Ma (230.59 Cranberry; 233.58 US Classic; 228.12 SkAm; 195.09 CS Warsaw; 250.97 CS Golden Spin) 6th 2022 Nationals
• Camden Pulkinen (179.50 Cranberry; 208.99 US Classic; 204.24 CS Finlandia; 193.18 NHK; 237.97 Rostelecom) 5th 2022 Nationals

Others with International Assignments
Tomoki Hiwatashi (205.17 Cranberry; 213.11 CS Lombardia; 221.77 SCI; 217.08 NHK) withdrawn from Nationals 1/6
Max Naumov (223.15 Cranberry; 207.39 US Classic) withdrawn from Nationals 12/9
Yaroslav Paniot (210.84 Cranberry) withdrawn from Nationals 1/9, 7th place in SP
Eric Sjoberg (221.12 US Classic; 189.38 CS Warsaw; 212.77 CS Golden Spin) withdrawn from Nationals 1/7
Dinh Tran (176.72 US Classic)

I’m kind of confused. Looking at the AND/OR language, had Vincent placed fourth like he should have, wouldn’t he be in Group 3? So he wasn’t in group 2 coming into Nationals. I guess that doesn’t matter since he technically did place Top 3. That said, I don’t see how Jason and Ilia are in Group 3 because they haven’t consistently scored within the top 5 at Worlds or scored once in the top 3 at Worlds.

 

[Karen-W]

I’m kind of confused. Looking at the AND/OR language, had Vincent placed fourth like he should have, wouldn’t he be in Group 3? I don’t see how Jason and Ilia are in Group 3 because they haven’t consistently scored within the top 5 at Worlds or scored once in the top 3 at Worlds.

It looks like the table didn't copy properly.

Group 1 - Top 3 at Nationals AND Top 3 Worlds int'l scores
Group 2 - Top 5 at Nationals AND Top 5 Worlds int'l scores

 

[Coco]

Those headings are messed up. Group 2 is top 5 at Nationals AND the international scores. So 3rd, 4th or 5th wouldn't make a difference.

 

[LeafOnTheWind]

It looks like the table didn't copy properly.

Group 1 - Top 3 at Nationals AND Top 3 Worlds int'l scores
Group 2 - Top 5 at Nationals AND Top 5 Worlds int'l scores

I see. Your headings were one column off. They need to move over to the right. Thanks!

 

[VGThuy]

It looks like the table didn't copy properly.

Group 1 - Top 3 at Nationals AND Top 3 Worlds int'l scores
Group 2 - Top 5 at Nationals AND Top 5 Worlds int'l scores

Oh! That makes sense.

 

[Karen-W]

Oh! That makes sense.

I just fixed the table, btw

 

[peibeck]

C'mon committee, we're impatient!!!

 

[peibeck]

Jason, Nathan, Vincent. Breathe bitchezzz.

 

[once_upon]

Jason, Nathan, Vincent. Breathe bitchezzz.

Any reasons posted?

 

[peibeck]

Any reasons posted?

Just posting what was relayed to me.

 

[Coco]

From who, I'm in shock.

 

[AYS]

I am simultaneously incredibly happy and dreading the firestorm.