Hmm, I'm intrigued. I could see this working for them, it sort of halfs the distance between what they want to do and what is expected of them.
Yes, I know it's halves. I think halfs looks catchier and more spunky.
But when did they ever skate to anything that is fast, powerful, and passionate...? For me, it's as far from their style as I can imagine. They had a decent fun SP in 2016/17 but their attempt to be what you describe ended them with a Candyman FS which was the absolute worst option for them and their worst FS.Worked.
I don't like this music for T&M. It is boring. They are not lyrical skaters. They need something fast, powerful, passionate. I am disappointed.
Bolero (fast, powerful, great fit)But when did they ever skate to anything that is fast, powerful, and passionate...? For me, it's as far from their style as I can imagine. They had a decent fun SP in 2016/17 but their attempt to be what you describe ended them with a Candyman FS which was the absolute worse option for them and their worst FS.
We haven't even seen the program yet. The music is gorgeous and they are both extremely talented skaters. I'm excited to see what they do with it.This LP is going to hurt them. It is monotonous.
I was never a fan of S/M but they had a couple of LPs that suited them despite Massot's so so talent. It doesn't mean it will suit T&M. Vladimir is so much more talented than Massot! Massot was there to mainly throw Aliona high and far.
I didn't ever remember that 'popular program' you mentioned.I can picture it really suiting them and I'm sure it will be lovely, but I hate that it's going to draw comparisons to a popular program.
In my opinion, none of the programs you mentioned fall under the category of fast or passionate. These music selections were mostly classical with Rachmaninoff also being dramatic. Ti Amo was criticized for being highly monotonous (I liked it) and Albinoni was nice but not a good fit for an Olympic season.Bolero (great fit)
Rachmaninoff (great fit)
Albinone (lot of passion and IMO good fit)
Ti Amo (not my fav but it had at least some ups and downs)
This LP is going to hurt them. It is monotonous.
I was never a fan of S/M but they had a couple of LPs that suited them despite Massot's so so talent. It doesn't mean it will suit T&M. Vladimir is so much more talented than Massot! Massot was there to mainly throw Aliona high and far.
I don't think T/M can emote to This music, although Claire de lune works well, but it is for SP.In my opinion, none of the programs you mentioned fall under the category of fast or passionate. These music selections were mostly classical with Rachmaninoff also being dramatic. Ti Amo was criticized for being highly monotonous (I liked it) and Albinoni was nice but not a good fit for an Olympic season.
I disagree with calling Lighthouse boring, it's an emotional piece of music and both S/M and Kevin Aymoz had a lot of success with it and got good reviews for their programs. If T/M will be able to emote it well and commit to the music it can be a very emotional piece.
I didn't say I think those weren't good choices for them - I think both were great. What I'm saying is that I think you are misrepresenting their style, they are not and were never a team that goes for fast, powerful, and passionate (Sui/Han fits this description way more). They are classical Russian skaters and while Lighthouse is out of the box for them they showed they are able to emote this type of music before so I think they will be OK. Plus, after Candyman, most people will probably just be happy that they are not going for anything too far from their style.I disagree with you about Bolero and Rach. They were great music choices for them. Classical music Can be emotional. I personally hate vocal music in FS (a few exceptions as usual).
It's going to be interesting to read fan comments given how some are annoyed with Savchenko's recent activities, but judges are professional enough that they won't care that this won the OGM 4 years ago. Interesting choice.I didn't say I think those weren't good choices for them - I think both were great. What I'm saying is that I think you are misrepresenting their style, they are not and were never a team that goes for fast, powerful, and passionate (Sui/Han fits this description way more). They are classical Russian skaters and while Lighthouse is out of the box for them they showed they are able to emote this type of music before so I think they will be OK. Plus, after Candyman, most people will probably just be happy that they are not going for anything too far from their style.
It actually won silver at Worlds 2017, not the OGM (that was a different FS)It's going to be interesting to read fan comments given how some are annoyed with Savchenko's recent activities, but judges are professional enough that they won't care that this won the OGM 4 years ago. Interesting choice.
It didn't. Savchenko/Massot used this music for their FS in 2016-17. They used 'Terre en vue du ciel' for the Olympic season.It's going to be interesting to read fan comments given how some are annoyed with Savchenko's recent activities, but judges are professional enough that they won't care that this won the OGM 4 years ago. Interesting choice.
I know that.It actually won silver at Worlds 2017, not the OGM (that was a different FS)
She was replying to me.I know that.
Tutberidze is a perfectionist. I'm betting they'll work on it quite a bit between now and Russian nationals.This was by far the best* FS they ever had, and they obviously connect with it so deeply they just did their first clean FS in years. Finally two good programs in an Olympic season. I hope they'll have the season of their lives.
(*The ending needs work)
That change of costume in the SP needs to go. Totally unnecessary. I think the big change in costume from blue to red had worked very well for Anna Shcherbakova but that connected with the program. There is no reason for it in T/M's SP.So far the only things I would change atm are Evgenia's dresses. The blue SP dress is beautiful, but the sack she unfurls is stupid stupid stupid. Why is there a gimmick in a pretty classical program? The LP dress is borderline frump.
That change of costume in the SP needs to go. Totally unnecessary. I think the big change in costume from blue to red had worked very well for Anna Shcherbakova but that connected with the program. There is no reason for it in T/M's SP.
I agree. Anna's dress change highlighted a dramatic change in music. T/M's SP is a straightforward program to Clair de Lune. It's not going anywhere else, it just looks pointlessly schlocky in an otherwise pretty program.
Go SCREAM!But these types of programs win, so we'll see lots of them this season.
As it pertains to T/M, if they press their hands together one more time I will scream. If the Chinese are clean and M/G switch to last years free and are also clean, T/M will max out at bronze. I never, I never. But as we are saying, if this is the programme they can manage, good on them.
Oh dear I touched a nerve did I? My bad. Wrong thread. Muhaha....Go SCREAM!
if if if......
The only thing that matters is what actually happens in the competition.
BTW this is T/M Cheer thread.