Vagabond
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No.Am I awake?
No.Am I awake?
I never doubted the exchange of money
I dare you to post a video of Michael Chack's 1993 U.S. Nationals Free Skate to prove your point!
Rudy killed it. He was awesome. Thanks for that.It’s in one of the videos in post 17, and I also posted it in a different thread the other day, so that’s not much of a dare. Chack skates at around 1 hour 8 minutes, but I would suggest starting with Galindo’s skate 7 minutes earlier.
He would have. It's all about pecking order and by 1993, Paul and Chris had retired, Todd wasn't at his peak and Mark was by then one of the top men whom USFS had to rely upon. There's also the payback element for 1992.Mitchell was fortunate that Galindo and Chack were in the penultimate group. Had both skaters placed higher in the short, Mark may not have made the world team.
Bumping this thread back up ... Ross Miner chatted with Polina Edmunds on her podcast last month:I will say, from my limited personal experience, that I think Ross is one classy guy, and he seems to be enjoying his current coaching role in the MJM program.
Well, I know for certain this tortured soul was selling his ass at a Nationals for coke or $$$. Maybe around 1999? He lived his life on his terms. Stop making excuses for him.I hope you are satisfied with yourself for how scummy you can be towards a tortured soul that tragically died. From 1947 to 1992 Van Nuys had a General Motors Assembly factory, and you could have just as well claimed he secretly built Impalas to fund his skating and addiction rather than say he got money the way you said I hope his 20-something year old daughter does not Google search him looking for something to be proud of only to find an invented claim he did this because he happened to live in Van Nuys.
I agree with this, and I don't think Rippon was going to be left off the Olympic team anyways [although side note here - if Brown finished 4th and Rippon 5th I think they would've been in a huge predicament].USFS could not have been clearer that placement at nationals would not be the sole determinant of selection for the Olympic team, but Miner and his team still don't seem to grasp that, despite having the "40-page document" detailing the criteria. It's not "picking whoever USFS wants," it's selecting based on body of work. The comment (forget whether it was Polina or Ross who made it but they both agreed) about getting silver at nationals and not getting rewarded for it? Miner was rewarded - he got a silver medal. And Rippon was rewarded for having delivered more throughout the season than Miner did (Ross had a particularly weak season internationally IIRC).
I can appreciate that it was a bitter pill to swallow, especially because as he noted he wasn't even the 1st alternate, but that too was based on body of work. The rules changed. Sucks for him, but it doesn't make them arbitrary.
You are indecent because you speak indecently about the dead. It has nothing to do with him at this point or what he pedaled ... maybe, just maybe, who bought it. You can't have supply without demand in a market, and who knows if they are alive two decades later.Well, I know for certain this tortured soul was selling his ass at a Nationals for coke or $$$. Maybe around 1999? He lived his life on his terms. Stop making excuses for him.
You are certainly full of something today. I am not certain what, but it prompted a response I was not expecting. For all I know you had a drug addict personally harm you.Why, thank you! I was filled with the spirits yesterday! Indecent? LOL. I don't wear pearls. Nothing to clutch, unlike you apparently.
I agree with this. I was of course a big Adam-fan so I’m biased, but I thought it was the right decision to send him to OG, he had such a good season overall, and also the season before iirc. I did feel for Ross! But I wouldn’t have missed Adam’s Olympic performances for the world. Even without the top content his Arrival of the birds were so great. He totally enjoyed being on the ice at those Olympics, you could see he made the most of his dream coming true.I agree with this, and I don't think Rippon was going to be left off the Olympic team anyways [although side note here - if Brown finished 4th and Rippon 5th I think they would've been in a huge predicament].
However, I don't think Samuel Auxier (I believe he is the one that led the press conference) helped matters when he basically said the body of work was in place for potential medal contenders, or something along those lines. I think most of us knew Rippon would be fighting to get into the top 10, and we've gone back in forth in other threads about him being picked with the team competition in mind. But it was then cleared by Adam himself that the top skaters in each discipline decided if they wanted to skate both programs or not, and then the next skater in the world rankings was given the option. So his team event status fell into place solely by Chen's decision, not because the USFS had him in mind to win a bronze medal there. Rippon was not a medal contender individually, and his placement in the Olympics had no rolling effect to the next Worlds.
Of course Adam made the most of the Olympics and the Pence comment really got his career skyrocketing quickly, so I'm sure he's especially grateful
(((Mark Mitchell)))
Rippon over Miner was idiotic! You have two journeyman. Who cares who goes? Why rippon? Made no sense. Miner beat rippon fair and square. His international results were a few GP medals. Big deal. No one ever thought anything of rippon. Plus rippon was a Quadless journeyman
You realize that Yuzuru Hanyu, Javier Fernandez, Nathan Chen, and Patrick Chan were also there, and they tend to draw attention to the sportI liked Ross and felt bad for him but he would have never milked that Olympic opportunity the way Adam had. I really think Adam brought a lot of positive media attention to the sport and his reach extended beyond skating as well. It was the closest thing to the Battle of the Brians- because that had a lot of media attention on Brian Boitano that was not fueled but an attack like the Whack.
Not one person has argued otherwise. But you're very wrong if you don't think Rippon came out of the Olympics as one of the most household American names, and I do think he attracted a lot of attention to skating especially on social media.You realize that Yuzuru Hanyu, Javier Fernandez, Nathan Chen, and Patrick Chan were also there, and they tend to draw attention to the sport
Well there was a lot of attacking of pence that miner would probably not have done that got him attention but that didn’t help skatingI liked Ross and felt bad for him but he would have never milked that Olympic opportunity the way Adam had. I really think Adam brought a lot of positive media attention to the sport and his reach extended beyond skating as well. It was the closest thing to the Battle of the Brians- because that had a lot of media attention on Brian Boitano that was not fueled but an attack like the Whack.
Yeah, because he was on Dancing with Stars with Tonya.Not one person has argued otherwise. But you're very wrong if you don't think Rippon came out of the Olympics as one of the most household American names, and I do think he attracted a lot of attention to skating especially on social media.
I said he came out of the Olympics as one of the most household American names. DWTS was after the fact; it was not because of that or because of Tonya. Try again.Yeah, because he was on Dancing with Stars with Tonya.
Then say what you mean I'm not a mind reader.I said he came out of the Olympics as one of the most household American names. DWTS was after the fact; it was not because of that or because of Tonya. Try again.
I said what I meant and you chose not to read it.Then say what you mean
Yeah, I know skating is really a competitive audition, not a sport, that is only not dumped by the IOC because it happens to be commercially marketable.I said what I meant and you chose not to read it.
Placement and medals don't always have much to do with attention brought to a sport. Sorry to tell ya.