Yuzuru Hanyu Cheer Thread

[Spun Silver]

He is amazing and has nothing else to prove. I hope skating / competing at this point is something that he personally enjoys and is not being forced upon him by his Fed etc. More importantly, I hope that if he continues to skate / compete, he is not doing further damage to his body. Those quads can't be good for his ankles.

I think the 4toe - 3axel is awesome but I can't help but think this isn't the most mathmatically or strategical wise element because of the 20% discount in base value to two of his biggest jumps.

As @clairecloutier pointed out in another thread, they need to change the rules so he doesn't take a hit on such an amazing combo. It is so Yuzu-like to do it anyway just because it's a mountain to conquer.

 

[Meoima]

I didn’t watch the men’s LP. Will watch Yuzuru’sskate when I have more time.
I have been busy this weekend. Glad to hear he skated great.

Now please take care of your health, Yuzuru.

Video of his Origin FS at WC without commentary: https://youtu.be/oha5dy3POb0

Better quality https://youtu.be/saAIjO9Ri_A

 

[Meoima]

He is amazing and has nothing else to prove. I hope skating / competing at this point is something that he personally enjoys and is not being forced upon him by his Fed etc. More importantly, I hope that if he continues to skate / compete, he is not doing further damage to his body. Those quads can't be good for his ankles.

I think the 4toe - 3axel is awesome but I can't help but think this isn't the most mathmatically or strategical wise element because of the 20% discount in base value to two of his biggest jumps.

He has stated that he would want to do 4A, 4Lz, and 4F. When a reporter asked him if he would do 4A he said he would definitely do the 4A while the reporter is still alive. The 4A is technically his only reason to continue competing.

If anyone is capable of doing the 4A, it is Yuzuru. This is the Ice Scope tracker implemented by Fuji TV to measure the 3A by the men and Yuzuru's 3A has 70 cm in height, 3.62 m in length and you could see the list included other skaters: https://twitter.com/BaseValue1/status/1108704788135317505

Here is the images: https://twitter.com/anne_wilson3107/status/1110078959687876608?s=21

 

[Meoima]

Yuzuru's international PCS from 2008 to 2019: https://twitter.com/flowerforyuzu/status/1110047618669793280
Unlike the majority of top skaters, his PCS do not go up drastically.

 

[Meoima]

Yuzuru will not compete at WTT 2019: "My injury from Russia has not healed yet and I have done what I could for Worlds 2019, but putting even more stress on that ankle is probably not a good idea and my doctor tells me I need to rest it more. I want it to heal completely and prepare for next season." - https://twitter.com/Iron_Klaus/status/1110058812059336704

 

[Meoima]

Q: After the PyeongChang Olympics you said you would “Continue to compete just a little”.

A: Honestly, to speak frankly, after PyeongChang, I was really unsteady. Before the season began it was the same. There was the feeling that perhaps it was because I had not firmly set my purpose. But I skated while thinking that “I must do it, I have to do something”. Right now, in the way I said earlier, through this season, finally I could see my origins. After all, sports are enjoyable. I want to further experience that feeling which is like a thrill that wells up when I see a strong opponent, and on top of that to be able to think that I want to win. It feels that the 4A is also here now for that purpose.

From http://nanoka12.tumblr.com/post/183675612351/yuzuru-hanyu-i-want-to-further-experience-that

This part about his injury worries me but it is just so him

Q: You did not go for any special treatment for your ankle, but underwent normal rehabilitation?

A: Although there are various discussions, it is also not a problem which can be addressed through surgery. Because it was severely injured, a much simpler impact would cause injury. In addition, I very much feel that an equivalent impact would have a much greater effect (cause a much greater injury). Certainly the injury before the PyeongChang Olympics and the current injury were in completely different directions, but as the recovery from the current injury was clearly slower, and the condition also can be said to be worse, definitely it is something like the durability of the ankle, the life expectancy of the ankle from now on. That is definitely something that I must take into consideration and upon that train while bearing risk, this is what I am once again confronted with.

 

[Marco]

Yuzuru's international PCS from 2008 to 2019: https://twitter.com/flowerforyuzu/status/1110047618669793280
Unlike the majority of top skaters, his PCS do not go up drastically.

His PCS doesn't have much room to significantly grow

 

[Meoima]

His PCS doesn't have much room to significantly grow

After watching him live many times I would say 110 or 120 PCS scales are pretty much possible for his level.

 

[Vash01]

Video of his Origin FS at WC without commentary: https://youtu.be/oha5dy3POb0

Better quality https://youtu.be/saAIjO9Ri_A

Just watched this. Wow! He was amazing. He looked reasonably healthy to me. I loved the black & gold costume, very reminiscent of Plushenko. If only he had skated a clean SP, they might have marked him even higher for this. There is beauty and power and completeness to his skating. We are very lucky to watch Yuzuru skate. I have seen him skate live just once, at the 2016 worlds.

I hope we get to see a 100 percent healthy Yuzuru next season. I have missed him so much, it feels like years since he competed in the first two GPS this season.

I watched his exhibition too. It was lovely. Was it Japanese music?

 

[Meoima]

Just watched this. Wow! He was amazing. He looked reasonably healthy to me. I loved the black & gold costume, very reminiscent of Plushenko. If only he had skated a clean SP, they might have marked him even higher for this. There is beauty and power and completeness to his skating. We are very lucky to watch Yuzuru skate. I have seen him skate live just once, at the 2016 worlds.

I hope we get to see a 100 percent healthy Yuzuru next season. I have missed him so much, it feels like years since he competed in the first two GPS this season.

I watched his exhibition too. It was lovely. Was it Japanese music?

Yes, his exhibition was the piano version of this song means: “Spring, come”.
https://youtu.be/gol5dFrv4Ao

 

[Vash01]

From http://nanoka12.tumblr.com/post/183675612351/yuzuru-hanyu-i-want-to-further-experience-that

This part about his injury worries me but it is just so him

Loved his interview. Sounds like he is very balanced in his approach. He wants to compete at the top level and win championships, yet, in training he wants to make sure that he does not injure his ankle further. It also sounds like surgery cannot fix the kind of injury he has.

Who is Ichiru?

 

[Vash01]

Yes, his exhibition was the piano version of this song means: “Spring, come”.
https://youtu.be/gol5dFrv4Ao

Love it! That explains the soft, flowery costume.

 

[Meoima]

Loved his interview. Sounds like he is very balanced in his approach. He wants to compete at the top level and win championships, yet, in training he wants to make sure that he does not injure his ankle further. It also sounds like surgery cannot fix the kind of injury he has.

Who is Ichiru?

Ichiro is the legendary baseball player.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ichiro_Suzuki
He is the most famous athlete in Japan. And Yuzuru loves baseball so there is that.

 

[Sylvia]

Who is Ichiru?

Ichiro Suzuki is a legendary (ETA that I didn't see Meoima's post above when I edited this ) professional baseball player in Japan & USA (Seattle Mariners): https://english.kyodonews.net/news/...shes-about-retiring-baseball-star-ichiro.html

Fresh off securing the silver medal at this week's Figure Skating World Championships, two-time Olympic men's champion Yuzuru Hanyu spoke Sunday of how much retiring baseball star Ichiro Suzuki impacted him.
Hanyu praised his Japanese countryman, who wrapped up his 28-year professional career Thursday in Tokyo, and said he intends to keep learning from the 45-year-old renowned for his extreme devotion to fitness and preparation.
"Frankly, I'm saddened (by his retirement)," the 24-year-old Hanyu said at Saitama Super Arena outside Tokyo. "He had that incredible sense for batting, stealing bases and base running, and that arm. I could go on forever."
"The things he said influenced me and upon hearing them I changed the way I practiced."

 

[Vash01]

Ichiro Suzuki is a professional baseball player (Seattle Mariners): https://english.kyodonews.net/news/...shes-about-retiring-baseball-star-ichiro.html

I figured he played baseball since Yuzuru mentioned stealing bases but I didn’t know him. I don’t watch much baseball outside of our home team Arizona Diamondbacks.

 

[Meoima]

Statement translated by Kyodo news:

The 24-year-old, who finished runner-up at the World Figure Skating Championships in Saitama on Saturday, originally sustained the injury to his right ankle when practicing a quad loop during November's Rostelecom Cup in Russia.
"I went all out for the world championships. It's difficult to make my right foot bear even more, and my doctor has told me I need further treatment," he said in a comment released by the federation.
"I want to make a complete recovery as soon as possible and start training ahead of next season," he said.

https://english.kyodonews.net/news/...ss-world-team-trophy-due-to-ankle-injury.html

 

[Meoima]

BTW had Yuzuru landed the 4S in the SP and had he landed the 4S better in the LP, he could have won. It's pure math.

The margin of 22.45 points between Nathan and Yuzu sounds awful on paper, but it could be accounted for in a fairly straightforward manner using the 2 jumping mistakes that Yuzu had: the popped 4S in the SP and the UR 4S in the LP. If Yuzu had landed those 2 Salchows properly, all else being equal, he could have won. That’s not my crazy Hanyu fan persona talking, it’s math.

His (relatively) clean Otonal SP was awarded 110.53 at Rostelecom Cup so that mistake in the SP in Saitama cost him upward of 15 points - 14 of which was because of the missing element itself, and the rest because of the reduction in PCS it induced (and I’d be the first to admit that it should’ve cost him even more had the judges strictly followed the ISU recommendation on PCS for programs containing a serious error).

His clean 4S in the LP at GP Helsinki was awarded 13.44 points, so the UR in Saitama cost him about 7.5 points.

(at least) 15.00 + 7.5 = 22.5, which is enough to cover the margin and allow Yuzu to win, and that’s before we account for the fact that a cleaner LP would’ve easily netted him more than 95.84 in PCS.

I’m not throwing these numbers out here to kick off a game of what-ifs. I’m doing this only to show you that the hot take of “Yuzu couldn’t have won even if he had skated cleanly” is bullshit. You don’t have to swallow it from anyone, not even Yuzu himself.

http://the-real-xmonster.tumblr.com/post/183708979759/whats-next-for-yuzu-hello-girlsguys-apologize

Now proper advice should be that Yuzuru should rest well and find a way to heal his ankle properly. And it seems to me Yuzuru does know he needs to rest as he has come back to Canada right away this morning.
Source https://twitter.com/hanyuyuzurufeed/status/1110337964494802944

 

[Meoima]

Yuzuru actually does have transitions into his 4Lo. He does a RFI-Mohawk (RFI to LBI) and RBO-Mohawk (RBO to LFO) into it.

https://twitter.com/yang_bo_dudnik/status/1110408437882458112
Images: https://twitter.com/yang_bo_dudnik/status/1110410505598849024

 

[Meoima]

According to director Ito of JSF, Yuzuru initially is willing to participate at WTT. However, the night after Men FS event, he contacted to federation that he would like to concentrate on treatment of injury.

https://twitter.com/echotpe/status/1110553518362877952?s=21

It seems he was in a rush to go back to Canada to treat his ankle.

 

[believed]

I’m glad he’s focusing on his ankle!

 

[nimi]

When a reporter asked him if he would do 4A he said he would definitely do the 4A while the reporter is still alive. The 4A is technically his only reason to continue competing.

He also said in an interview that competing against Nathan is giving him a renewed sense of purpose. Excerpt: "I'm happy that there is someone now that I'd like to compete against and win and become a better skater. Because I hit my objectives of winning two Olympics. My motivation to skate was unstable. What I like to do is to go up against a really strong rival (...)"

English translation & link to Japanese source here: https://mobile.twitter.com/Iron_Klaus/status/1110418396909395968

Meryl Davis interviewed Brian for Olympic Channel about Yuzuru's return to competition, his rivalry with Nathan, and whether he's going to continue until Beijing (Brian doesn't know, but he thinks it's a possibility):
https://www.olympicchannel.com/en/v...-on-yuzuru-hanyu-s-future-he-ll-be-back-soon/

 

[Meoima]

“I want to get 4Lz back first. After that I will attempt 4F and then 4A.”

https://twitter.com/jobs_chura/status/1110563783787704320

 

[Meoima]

Yiannis Exarchos, the Olympic Channel Services executive director, said at a press conference after the IOC wrapped up its current executive board meetings that Hanyu is the biggest attraction of the IOC's content provider, the Olympic Channel.
"Yuzuru Hanyu is the biggest star of the Olympic channel, not just in Japan but everywhere," Exarchos said.

https://english.kyodonews.net/news/...anyu-named-olympic-channels-biggest-star.html

 

[Spun Silver]

https://english.kyodonews.net/news/...anyu-named-olympic-channels-biggest-star.html

Wow, amazing! Out of all sports and athletes everywhere!

 

[Meoima]

JSF announced today that the pain and inflammation of Yuzu's right ankle injuries will be needed two to three months under medical treatment. It's an official statement for his absence of WTT.

From https://twitter.com/echotpe/status/1111559763001634816?s=21

 

[Meoima]

Video of the Ice Scope that measures Yuzuru’s 3A at WC 2019: https://twitter.com/miruru1207/status/1111578336973611010?s=21
That’s 70cm in height and 3,62cm in length.

 

[Fairuza]

Video of the Ice Scope that measures Yuzuru’s 3A at WC 2019: https://twitter.com/miruru1207/status/1111578336973611010?s=21
That’s 70cm in height and 3,62cm in length.

Off a counter

 

[Carolla5501]

I am beginning to think this ankle is much more serious then we know.

 

[Meoima]

I am beginning to think this ankle is much more serious then we know.

He said even surgery could not help so... he has been injured in that part too many times. I honestly could just say I am half-half that he still wants to stay in the competition after so many pains.
A huge part of me will be sad if he retires but another part will be glad to see him gets no more pain from the competition. Yet he still wants to get that 4A so... I can only wish.
I never know how long he will stay so I can only treasure the time he still wants to compete.

 

[nimi]

Olympic Channel article about Yuzu's ankle and JSF's statement: DOUBLE OLYMPIC CHAMPION YUZURU HANYU EXPECTED TO HAVE '2-3 MONTHS OF TREATMENT' FOR ANKLE INJURY

The Japanese Skating Federation have confirmed that the 24-year-old has a "right lateral ankle joint injury, triangular ligament injury, right peroneal muscle tendon injury."