sus2850
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Very happy with the results. Wanted Netta to win and really like Cesárs voice. Here together with our number 4. https://www.eurovision.de/videos/ES...Schulte-und-Cesar-Sampson,oesterreich776.html
I've only been watching Eurovision for about 5 years, but this was BY FAR the most boring of all of the years I've watched. I didn't like any of the top acts, and very few songs were enjoyable IMO. The hosts were not that great either.
When Sweden was in the running to win, I was thinking people were voting for the poor man's Bieber just so that there would actually be decent hosts next year.I enjoyed it more than most years, tbh. I counted only 5 songs that I didn't like. Word on the hosts though, pretty meh.
I thought she was pretty ghastly but nothing worse than some of the crap Euroviosion has been calling music over the years. Dima Bilan "Running Scared" from AzerbaijanOne of the worst winner since forever (well since Carlotta for me). She can't bloody sing.
Her song is typical eurotrash.
So we're back to trash eurovision, the quality that won for some years now is back in the dustbin.
It's Eurovision.I’m blown away by how lousy most of the songs are, period. Even pop music has quality standards. I’d venture to say that not one singer last night could get a record deal in the US to save his/her life.
It's Eurovision.
Given some of the stuff that passes for music in the US, I don't that's a great measure of quality, either
I'm not talking about just pop. There's a lot of crap hip hop out there, and crap country (though they can usually sing) and so on.The pop music that makes it to radio may be plastic but it’s welk-produced and the Rihannas and Lady Gaga’s can actually sing.
When Sweden was in the running to win, I was thinking people were voting for the poor man's Bieber just so that there would actually be decent hosts next year.
I miss the old voting system. I really am not a fan of this announcing the 'douze points' for the jury, then going back and basically disregarding it all by subsequently announcing the viewer votes. Just go back to the old way!!!
I don't feel that it's really fair to label what Netta is doing cultural appropriation. Clearly she likes certain aspects of Japanese pop culture, and she's not necessarily relating to it in a profound way (I mean, Eurovision...) but my understanding is that appropriation is about people from a dominant culture borrowing elements from more marginalized cultures. And that really doesn't apply when you have a Jewish-Israeli women being inspired by Japanese design and culture.I hate Israel's song/staging/cultural appropriation but I'm tempted to download the song anyway and set it as a ringtone for certain individuals so I can remember that I'm not a toy, you stupid boy
I could never understand why so many songs from Eurovision are done in English . Maybe it's because English is my native language,but for me so many of the English language Eurovision entries are terribly written with very poor lyrics and clunky/uneven musical structure.
Thank you, allezfred, for setting up FSU contest!Congratulations Israel!
I don't feel that it's really fair to label what Netta is doing cultural appropriation. Clearly she likes certain aspects of Japanese pop culture, and she's not necessarily relating to it in a profound way (I mean, Eurovision...) but my understanding is that appropriation is about people from a dominant culture borrowing elements from more marginalized cultures. And that really doesn't apply when you have a Jewish-Israeli women being inspired by Japanese design and culture.
Thank you, allezfred, for setting up FSU contest!
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I am very very very glad "Israel won".. but the "singer and the song" gave me all sorts of thoughts.... like ... will Israel win only when represented by a "humpty-dumpty making tribal belches about evil men" or some other "comical non-threatening creature"... and yet a film with a gorgeous Wonder-woman, with super-powers and space age power weapons gets all sorts of international boooos? I wonder if Israel could win if someone looking like Natalie Portman was singing "When i ruled the world" or "We are the Champions"...
I’m blown away by how lousy most of the songs are, period. Even pop music has quality standards. I’d venture to say that not one singer last night could get a record deal in the US to save his/her life.
Mikolas was previously approached to sing the Czech Republic’s 2017 entry My Turn but turned down the offer as he didn’t think the ballad fit his musical style (with singer Martina Barta taking the song to Kiev instead). Having won the Czech ticket to Lisbon this year he’s now tipped for even greater things, having signed an international deal with RCA Records
I don't feel that it's really fair to label what Netta is doing cultural appropriation. Clearly she likes certain aspects of Japanese pop culture, and she's not necessarily relating to it in a profound way (I mean, Eurovision...) but my understanding is that appropriation is about people from a dominant culture borrowing elements from more marginalized cultures. And that really doesn't apply when you have a Jewish-Israeli women being inspired by Japanese design and culture.
I am very very very glad "Israel won".. but the "singer and the song" gave me all sorts of thoughts.... like ... will Israel win only when represented by a "humpty-dumpty making tribal belches about evil men" or some other "comical non-threatening creature"... and yet a film with a gorgeous Wonder-woman, with super-powers and space age power weapons gets all sorts of international boooos? I wonder if Israel could win if someone looking like Natalie Portman was singing "When i ruled the world" or "We are the Champions"...
I agree with PRlady, and i am hardly a "yankee music snob".. I thought that many songs in this contest were in North American style, without specific rhythm or melody (well, except for some nice European rhythms with Valse and Polka and Mazurka and opera elements).Read it and weep Yankee music snob
One can stand out in different ways, "clown" is not the only option.. I bet if a Spanish or Black European singer came out looking like Carmen Miranda as "best of hispanic woman" or Bojangles as "best of black man", it would be a scandal because those are parodies..What is important in Eurovision is to stand out and for whatever reason she did that. A classically beautiful woman in a nice dress with a nice song is not enough to get it done in Eurovision these days.
I agree with PRlady, and i am hardly a "yankee music snob".. I thought that many songs in this contest were in North American style, without specific rhythm or melody (well, except for some nice European rhythms with Valse and Polka and Mazurka and opera elements).
One can stand out in different ways, "clown" is not the only option.. I bet if a Spanish or Black European singer came out looking like Carmen Miranda as "best of hispanic woman" or Bojangles as "best of black man", it would be a scandal because those are parodies..
https://i.pinimg.com/236x/e1/20/bd/...94f--miranda-songs-carmen-miranda-costume.jpg
http://www.danceheritage.org/treasures/robinson572.jpg
And Netta was a parody on "political correctness'... In an international competition the whole point is to present "The Best of your county/culture".. and Netta is not the best of "jewish/Israeli", her selection had a PC purpose, i suspect.
good to know....It's a popular music competition. North American music is popular all over Europe. Although lots of North American pop music these days are written by Swedish and Norwegian composers.
The only part i don't mind "on her" are kimonos....Sorry, I don't understand. You are saying that Netta was a parody on political correctness, but that her selection was due to political correctness? That doesn't make any sense.
Whether I like it or not, her music seems to be influenced by Japanese culture. I really don't see a problem with it.
She is not Susan
Boyle where looks don't matter given gorgeous voice.
My opinion is that Netta was selected and packaged for "political correctness" effect and all it entails (which i mentioned).
...Susan Boyle's voice isn't all that, in my opinion.
Whatever reason she was selected, it worked. She won. Job done.