Canadian Men 2017-18 season news & updates

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Sylvia said:
Liam Firus competes in his second Challenger Series comp. at Warsaw Cup this week. Elladj Balde originally was assigned as well but is no longer listed among the entries as of today - re-posting the possible reason from the GP Assignments thread:
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Yes, I thought this might be the case. A bit concerned that he has opted for a show instead of a competition already. I had hoped he would finish this season as an eligible skater and then focus on shows after Feb.
 
alilou said:
Link courtesy of @luckiest1 in the Patrick Chan thread:

http://www.vancouverisawesome.com/2017/11/12/patrick-chan-vancouver/
playing with his gf.
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This came across my FB and some of the comments were hysterical. Some people take things way to seriously and were getting up in arms about Patric not having ID or about him being kicked out. I am sure Patrick found it all quite amusing as clearly, by what was said in the article, his girlfriend did. I remember being asked for ID when I was in my early 30’s ... made my day :)
 
Seerek said:
It'll be interesting to see if Yvan Desjardins will still be coaching both Phan and Nadeau should they become the top 2 in Canada after 2018.
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I guarntee he will. Yvan is very very close to Nadeau anyways, not sure about the other one but hes like a dad to Nic, I cant see them splitting. In the foreseeable future anyways. He's got a 4Lu coming soon too!
 
alilou said:
Link courtesy of @luckiest1 in the Patrick Chan thread:

http://www.vancouverisawesome.com/2017/11/12/patrick-chan-vancouver/
playing with his gf.
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I sorta met Patrick's girlfriend in the epic security line at the Regina airport when hundreds of souls were trying to make early morning flights on Monday after Skate Canada--took us over an hour to shuffle our way through. They were directly in front of me and eventually got pulled out of the line for being VIPs. As people started to panic about making their flights, the VIP line got a bit longer. I stuck it out with the regular folks as I had a bit more time and got to hear Keegan Messing tell some fan some stories about his life. Most interesting fact: he's the middle brother of three!
 
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Catherine M said:
n the epic security line at the Regina airport when hundreds of souls were trying to make early morning flights on Monday after Skate Canada
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It was probably caused by the security guy who slowly went through all of the contents of a Japanese mom and her tweens' luggage before going through my knitting bag and looking up the maximum length of scissors and carefully measuring mine before tossing them for being too long.
 
So I had been hoping (along with @danafan and @Catherine M) that Skate Canada would send Joseph Phan somewhere to get the senior minimums. Golden Spin was the most likely candidate. However, the entry list is out for that and there are no Canadians on it, so that's out. I really can't see them sending him anywhere else either. I have a bad feeling about having a "Emanuel Sandhu in 1998" moment on our hands coming up and this is so preventable. What stupidity. (It belongs in the pairs thread but not sending Walsh/Michaud to get the senior minimums and the breakups of Purich/Portz and Jones/Reagan means we'll probably only send two teams to 4CC also)
 
Maybe Skate Canada has already pegged Conrad and Joseph as the Junior Worlds Team?

Hopefully, they wise up after next season after up to 5 Senior men will have retired, leaving Nam/Nic/Roman/Joseph/Conrad as the top tier.
 
Erin said:
So I had been hoping (along with @danafan and @Catherine M) that Skate Canada would send Joseph Phan somewhere to get the senior minimums. Golden Spin was the most likely candidate. However, the entry list is out for that and there are no Canadians on it, so that's out. I really can't see them sending him anywhere else either. I have a bad feeling about having a "Emanuel Sandhu in 1998" moment on our hands coming up and this is so preventable. What stupidity. (It belongs in the pairs thread but not sending Walsh/Michaud to get the senior minimums and the breakups of Purich/Portz and Jones/Reagan means we'll probably only send two teams to 4CC also)
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Canada still has three teams eligible for 4CC: whichever of I/M, S/B, and MT/M finishes fourth, along with Ruest/Wolfe and Kolodziej/Deschamps.

That said, I am disappointed that W/M are not being granted the opportunity to try for one of those spots, along, on topic here, with the short-sightedness with men -- though I'm still pleasantly surprised that at least Arnold/Williams and Lanaghan/Razgulajevs were sent out to a Challenger.
 
kwanfan1818 said:
It was probably caused by the security guy who slowly went through all of the contents of a Japanese mom and her tweens' luggage before going through my knitting bag and looking up the maximum length of scissors and carefully measuring mine before tossing them for being too long.
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I might offer that it was caused by passengers who think it's a good idea to take scissors in their carry-on onto an airplane (post 9/11). I think twice before packing nail clippers....

(If it was in checked bags, you're off the hook!)
 
Catherine M said:
I understand sending skaters overseas is expensive but not getting Phan and Walsh/Michaud their senior min scores is really not looking out for the best interests of their up and coming skaters by Skate Canada.
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I'm told Skate Canada is not much about getting any more senior mins. The entries eligible for Olympics are already decided. Having said that we definitely don't have much for backups to go to 4CC pairs especially. Walsh/Michaud might have been worth sending out to get mins to be a sub team.

Sending athletes to internationals is pretty much only about getting points to max out GP slots for next year.
 
I'm not off the hook, @Rock2 : they were in my knitting bag, having been assured that they met standards and having passed through security at least a dozen times in Vancouver, Montreal, Quebec City, Calgary, Pearson, Detrout, JFK, Newark, Seattle, and San Francisco, including three airports before Regina on this trip alone :shuffle:.

I'd like to note that there's no restriction on my 6" airplane-grade knitting needles that could have done far more damage than my blunt-tipped scissors, but why let reason get in the way of Security Theatre.
 
After SA short, time to re-handicap the field for Korea as CAN men (and ladies) run the turtle race for the last Korea spot that no one seems to want.

I think Liam knows that because he couldn't backup SLC performance he is now officially out of it. Even for a world's spot since Patrick is not likely to go. I don't think Roman was ever in it but solid attempt in his first GP.

I have to think Keegan is battling it out with Nic and Kevin for Korea. I had Kevin all along as the easy fave but he's been doing his best Chartrand impersonation, doing all he can to give that spot away. If he doesn't pull 170+ out of his tookas in the SA LP I think he drops behind Nic as SC looks to the future. I wouldn't call Nam completely out of it, but boy he gonna have to skate lights out in Vancouver.

The 2nd spot for Korea will likely just go to the one guy on the podium not named Chan or Gogolev (who many think could finish 2nd). The 2nd world's spot will be a straight up SC pick of who can help us keep 2 spots for next year.

What a mess.....
 
Rock2 said:
After SA short, time to re-handicap the field for Korea as CAN men (and ladies) run the turtle race for the last Korea spot that no one seems to want.

I think Liam knows that because he couldn't backup SLC performance he is now officially out of it. Even for a world's spot since Patrick is not likely to go. I don't think Roman was ever in it but solid attempt in his first GP.

I have to think Keegan is battling it out with Nic and Kevin for Korea. I had Kevin all along as the easy fave but he's been doing his best Chartrand impersonation, doing all he can to give that spot away. If he doesn't pull 170+ out of his tookas in the SA LP I think he drops behind Nic as SC looks to the future. I wouldn't call Nam completely out of it, but boy he gonna have to skate lights out in Vancouver.

The 2nd spot for Korea will likely just go to the one guy on the podium not named Chan or Gogolev (who many think could finish 2nd). The 2nd world's spot will be a straight up SC pick of who can help us keep 2 spots for next year.

What a mess.....
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Roman's skate looked pretty clean (except for the UR's) but an UR is better than a pop which he would normally do. His performance was really good and interpetation excellent. Too bad he is not being given appr. PCS. Hope he does well on the long.
 
barbarafan said:
Roman's skate looked pretty clean (except for the UR's) but an UR is better than a pop which he would normally do. His performance was really good and interpetation excellent. Too bad he is not being given appr. PCS. Hope he does well on the long.
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On video he looks reeeeeeally slow and lacking energy. When you're unknown you have to stand up and command attention from judges and audience to move PCS. He didn't do that, but overall he should be happy with standing up and going for all elements.

3T was clearly UR but I thought he got around on the 3A. Bummer. Hope he really goes for the long like he did for the short and skates well.
 
I think the second spot for the Olympics will come down to Nic vs Keegan. Keegan was ahead after the Short at skate canada but then his poor free allowed Nic to "win" the head to head face off in Regina so right now I feel like its Nic's sopt to loose based upon the head to head match up and his potential to be the "next one".

The wild card is Phan and his lack of min scores. A strong showing next week at challenge by Joseph MIGHT make Skate Canada go looking for a some random event in Europe but they really screwed Phan by not sending him out after his great skate at Quebec sectionals.
 
I agree that Nic and Keegan are the leading contenders at this point. Kevin was on his way to getting his name back in the game last night until he popped his second quad. I do think a strong free skate could get him back in it but he really needs to deliver. Nam and Nic are both registered for Challenge next week so that's a good chance to see how they are measuring up, although I think we have seen from Nam's results this season that the international panels are not giving him the PCS scores or the rotations on his jumps so I suspect he is out of it.
 
The way things have been going for 97% of underachieving Canadian men this season I would not be surprised at all to see Stephen Gogolev win 2018 Sr men national title, followed by Joseph Phan, and neither able to leave the country, LOL and as a Brit commentator once remarked "that would really throw cat amongst the pigeons, wink, wink!" Canadian Men going from legendary Rockstar status, to now practically scraping bottom of the barrel -- how the worm has turned, my heart is breaking! Please fella's wake up, pull up your big boy pants and get out of your own way and back to training, go see sports psychologist's whatever, y'all got the necessary skills, just need to find your inner warrior's again! Only bright spot has been Roman's SA debut...
 
The SP at SA just proved that Liam Firus is the most frustrating skater to cheer for.

Go for the 4T - almost over-rotate and step out.
Sort of had the 3A - put the hands down and spin out
Step out of the 3Lz - don't even try any sort of second jump in the combo

If his actual skating weren't so gosh darn beautiful, I wouldn't have to cheer for the guy!! Really hope he knocks em' dead in the LP.
 
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