Tinami Amori
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THIS!!!!! A thousand times this. I remember reading Splendor and Misery when I was about 8 and telling myself, do not be Esther, never be Esther....
Are you talking about High and Low of the Courtasans?
.... That's the one for me too..... never Esther! nor any women in Bel Ami.Two or three Queens don’t make it a rule. Had Tolstoy introduced the issues faced by Ekaterina during her rule as subjects of discussion for his female characters, I would have enjoyed it beyond words!
I am not asking Tolstoy to attribute to his ladies’ conversations much complexities of Ekaterina's life, not the strategies in Turkish-Russian or Russian-Persian Wars; not positioning of the Black Sea Fleet, not even changes to the Russian Banking industry and introduction of first paper money; just something very little… for example the content of a few letters between Ekaterina - The Enlightened Despot, and Voltaire..
Amazing pieces of debate and ideas…. Are you really from this century and living in UK? Or are pulling my leg?.. …. (again, for fun only) ... because if not….. then it’s my turn to generalize and to say: this is EXACTLY the typical Russian women attitude, which maintains today’s Russia as a Patriarchal Society. And! Feeds well into Putin’s mantra “return to old family values” and “let women breed like rabbits to contribute to the growth of the declining population”. And! That is why 60+% of Russian women are either married to men who have mistresses and 2nd families, or become one of those mistresses or 2nd wives. It’s called “the Golden Cage Women”.......and that is why i hear, from Russian women, for the last 26 years, the same stupid comments "why are not you married and have kids", and "why are working in a Man's Profession", which bothers me very little, and makes me feel sorry for them, as I pay their husbands salaries...
But, given Alica's last reply and mine, I don't want it to look like two Masada girls attacking Fair Vaselissa...
It's just that I rather like the woman's image iin Nekrasov's poety..... and his concept of Russian Woman.
http://www.stihophone.ru/works.php?G=19&ID=26173
In Russ hamlets women are dwelling,
Of countenance earnest, serene;
In all grace of movement excelling;
In bearing and look like a queen.
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The horseman she'll vanquish in racing;
In danger, not flinching, she'll save:
A galloping steed boldly facing;
To enter a burning hut,brave.
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You can do both. And I've had relationships with men and in my experience, men and women think differently. 
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