Tarasova/Morozov Cheer Thread

Vash01 said:
The powerful part of that ballet is about guests dancing at a party. It is not about the young lovers at all. Still it might be viewed as such, so you may be right.
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One thing I’ve noticed is that there is a tendency anytime someone skates to something with a known story, how well they portrayed the story becomes a topic of discussion. I think any use of Romeo and Juliet by a pairs or dance time automatically brings everyone’s focus to the Romeo and Juliet story. There’s an expectation there that the program is romantic program about the two characters and few people see past that.

One other thought I had for them was non-Turandot Puccini. I love the music from Le Villi, but know one ever uses it.
 
aka_gerbil said:
One thing I’ve noticed is that there is a tendency anytime someone skates to something with a known story, how well they portrayed the story becomes a topic of discussion. I think any use of Romeo and Juliet by a pairs or dance time automatically brings everyone’s focus to the Romeo and Juliet story. There’s an expectation there that the program is romantic program about the two characters and few people see past that.
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True. Trusova is saying the same thing about her R&J program not being a portrayal of Juliet... but you can't give a 16 year old girl that music and not expect people to assume it's about Juliet. It's the same for a couple. You can't just skate to R&J as pretty music. Like I thought back in the day Totmianina & Marinin did a pretty good job with the jazzy parts of West Side Story, but it fell apart by the time they got to "Maria," because they lacked the connection to skate that at that time.

I disagree with Marina about the ages, though. Fusar-Poli was 28 when she skated to R&J with Margaglio (not that I thought it was a great interpretation of a romantic love story, although I liked the modern vibes). Klimova & Ponomarenko were in their late 20s/early 30s skating to R&J in the 90s and they had one of the best intepretations ever.

La Boheme might be a nice choice for T&M?
 
I don’t think it was staples. I think it was light reflecting on where her tears of joy made her eye makeup run.
 
Spun Silver said:
Don't think so. The cut shows in every pic. Anyway, she's fine, that's the important thing.
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I didn’t see anything like what you describe. Not during the LP, after it, or during the exhibition. I did see a ring on her finger during the exhibition but it may be just a ring (not engagement).
 
Can someone post skatable music from La Boheme? Somehow T&M don’t strike me as opera type skaters but I could be wrong.
 
She’s worn that ring on and off on different fingers on different hands in photos going back to 2017, so I think just a ring.

The Dimash songs aren’t opera, but sort of remind me of it, so actual opera might work. The pieces I love from Le Villi are actually both entirely musical. I’ve wanted a pair to skate to them since 2006 or 2007. I’ll try to look them up and see if they are on YouTube.
 
aka_gerbil said:
She’s worn that ring on and off on different fingers on different hands in photos going back to 2017, so I think just a ring.

The Dimash songs aren’t opera, but sort of remind me of it, so actual opera might work. The pieces I love from Le Villi are actually both entirely musical. I’ve wanted a pair to skate to them since 2006 or 2007. I’ll try to look them up and see if they are on YouTube.
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I searched for La Boheme music. What I heard was not my cup of tea. I am sure it has some good music. Has anyone skated to it?

Here is a long list. It will keep me busy.
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La Bohème

La Bohème is an opera with music composed by Giacomo Puccini. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_bohème
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It's cool that adding Voronov to their team seems to have worked out so well. I think they have such high quality; hopefully this has really helped them re-set in every way and come back stronger than ever before.
 
Marina wants them to continue, but they haven't made any decisions. Vladimir never seemed to imagine himself going past 30 (he's 28), but I would guess that they definitely want to try for 2022 then make choices on how that goes later.
 
miriam09 said:
Does anyone have any thoughts on whether T/M will carry on after Beijing? Selfishly I really hope so? although not sure how realistic that is sadly.
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I can’t imagine them staying after the Olympics. If they were more consistent, then perhaps, but it seems that it is constantly up and down and it feels to me like quite a struggle to remain among the top pairs. The young Russian pairs will put a lot of pressure on them and it may not be worth it for them, if they won’t even have guaranteed that they would be in three at the nationals and therefore potentially not even being sent to the Europeans and worlds.
 
In regards to T/M’s consistency, they were dealing with injury last season and illness this season, but they do seem to have turned a corner physically and mentally. Practically, their real consistency problem not related to illness/injury was the jumps. Voronov appears to be a miracle worker in this department. Their technique wasn’t bad before, but it is visibly stronger and more secure in just a short amount of time.

Aliona was 34 when she and Massot win. Zhao was 37 in Vancouver when Shen/Zhao won. The younger teams are good, but nothing guarantees that they have a smooth journey ahead either. Illness and injury can strike them too. Inconsistency can happen too. (B/K haven’t been as consistent this season as last: M/G have now fallen apart at two nationals in a row.) We also have to see how the young pairs’ skating continues to develop. As of right now, if everyone skates clean, it’s going to be T/M on top. As nationals showed, when everyone isn’t clean.... it’s likely going to be T/M. When t/m are on, they’re out executing these younger teams and on any day, t/m’s skating has a maturity and refinement to it that the younger ones don’t have.

I think a clean T/M is the only team that can threaten S/H in Beijing. If T/M manage to come out on top and pick up a world title, I’m guessing they may call it a competitive career. (In Russia, they will have plenty of opportunity for a probably very long post-competitive career.) If they don’t win one or both, then they’ll have a decision to make. One thing I’ve recognized as their fan in the last year (and a year ago I was convinced they were doomed) is this team is way tougher and more determined than they look. They’ve been through a lot since 2018, but they kept fighting and kept working. If things don’t work out in 2022, they may decide to shoot for 2026.

As Amy said though, Marina wants them to stay through 2026 but T/M don’t seem to have made any decisions. I’d bet their focus is all on 2022 right now and then they’ll decide what’s next depending on the outcome of that.
 
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If they win the OGM in 2022, I think they will retire. If they don’t, they may want to try again In 2026.
 
I read the article about T&M by Eislauffan in GSD. Very interesting. They described how their LP developed this year. Zhenya found the music by Albinoni, but it had been used by many skaters. Marina asked if there was one with lyrics. They considered three versions and picked Dimash. Good choice, I think.

I have not yet read their interview.plan to do so in the next few days.
 
aka_gerbil said:
Another music thought for T/M: Rhapsody on a Theme of Paganini?

It would be repeating a composer, but I think it could fit their skating nicely.
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I like it for the SP but not the LP. I feel they should keep this year’s LP for the Olympics. They will feel more confident and it could counterbalance some of the Olympic pressure.

I would really like them to continue competing beyond the 2022 Olympics. They are just coming into themselves.
 
Vash01 said:
I like it for the SP but not the LP. I feel they should keep this year’s LP for the Olympics. They will feel more confident and it could counterbalance some of the Olympic pressure.

I would really like them to continue competing beyond the 2022 Olympics. They are just coming into themselves.
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I’m torn because they seem into that program, but it makes my ears bleed. I think I really want them to find something else they’re into that doesn’t make my ears bleed.

I think you’re right they’re just coming into their own. I’d like to see them continue too. I also want them to win in 2022, and I feel like they would definitely retire from competition then to take advantage of the opportunities they’d have. (I think it’s a given that with the popularity of skating in Russia, whenever they retire, we’ll still get to see them skate frequently.)
 
The first question was asking Vladimir if he was Irish. :lol:

Evgenia speaking in full sentences in English, she's improved a lot!

This interviewer doesn't seem to know much about skating. Evgenia said that Tatiana Totmianina is her skating hero and he didn't know what she was talking about. He also described lifts as Vladimir swinging her around like a cat in a small room. But then again, he did remember that they had a Riverdance program. Maybe he only knows Irish related stuff (the interviewer is Irish).
 
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His obsession with how Irish Vladimir looks to him is hilarious. He's brought it up like 4-5 times.

I don't know how they can do these interviews in English, if I had to try to do an interview in Russian, it would cause an international incident for sure. I'm still at the "My name is..." and counting to ten level despite having tried to learn on and off
for ages.

Brazil is a good choice for a warm country!
 
If I had to do an interview like that in Russian it would take several hours. I haven't taken a Russian class in 20 years. I can still understand a bit of it but my brain trying to put a sentence together with all the correct grammar cases would be like :fragile:

There's actually a large population of redheads in Russia along the Volga. Udmurtia even holds an international ginger convention.
 
I posted in one of the PBP threads when I was bored during zamboni time and killing time on the internet that according to wikipedia (for what that's worth) the town Ksenia Monko was born in (Kirov) is known as the "city of twins" for the unusually high number of multiple births there and is home to a high concentration of red-haired individuals.
 
I've studied Russian on my own on the internet, never with a teacher, so my speaking skills are developed at the level of me repeating "learn Russian in your car" lessons. Sometimes I make recordings of myself speaking contemporaneously on a random subject. :lol: I don't think I could get through answering questions and have it make sense without having a lot to time to think! I can't listen right now either but looking forward to it.
 
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