Russian figure skating news in 2024

[caseyedwards]

Yeah, I think that somewhere in the 65-67 range for her SP is likely. Also remember, she is going to be skating first in the SP in Beijing at the OQE (and in Milano-Cortina for that matter) because she has no WS points. We saw what happened to Nargiz Sueleymanova skating first in Boston - she had a lovely program but got hosed in PCS. Even skaters like Nini An and Ahsun Yun, who have some international reputation established but were skating #7 & 9 in the SP, only managed PCS in the high 5s & low 6s - granted, they both had disastrous SPs, but the judges weren't handing out PCS like candy and I don't expect that to be the case with the OQE - and it definitely won't be the case at the Olympics.

I really think the PCS reset is going to be a lot more impactful than Russia realizes. Add in the tech panel taking a sharper eye to her rotations than has happened to Russian women in the past... It will be really interesting to see what happens at the OQE and how Eteri recalibrates between September & February to maximize Petrosian's scoring potential.

If she picks one war horse for her sp music and gets 6 does she switch to a new war horse for Olympics? There is almost nothing you can do technically in a sp more than what she plans. Changing a triple toe to loop in combo doesn’t add that many points. Probably best to do war horses. Judges like them!

 

[Karen-W]

If she picks one war horse for her sp music and gets 6 does she switch to a new war horse for Olympics? There is almost nothing you can do technically in a sp more than what she plans. Changing a triple toe to loop in combo doesn’t add that many points. Probably best to do war horses. Judges like them!

Well, I'd say she probably would be better off changing her content and going for a clean 2A with +3 or +4 GOE rather than continuing to try for a sketchy 3A. If anything, it takes away the temptation for the tech panel to take a microscope to the rest of her jumps, which can only be to her benefit. But Adelia's still really going to be hindered by the start order. Heck, even Alysa was hurt a little by an earlier starting spot at Worlds with regard to her PCS - she was 4th in PCS behind Kaori, Mone & Isabeau.

I just have a really hard time believing she's going to get PCS on the same level as the very top tier (the 6 US & JPN women, Chaeyeon, Loena & Gubanova) with PCS ranging from 32-35. I expect her to be in the next tier in the middle of the 29-31 PCS range in the SP (Schizas, Haein, Pinzarrone, Repond, Petrokina, Gutmann, Samodelkina, Sauter, Mikutina & Kurakova).

 

[caseyedwards]

Well, I'd say she probably would be better off changing her content and going for a clean 2A with +3 or +4 GOE rather than continuing to try for a sketchy 3A. If anything, it takes away the temptation for the tech panel to take a microscope to the rest of her jumps, which can only be to her benefit. But Adelia's still really going to be hindered by the start order. Heck, even Alysa was hurt a little by an earlier starting spot at Worlds with regard to her PCS - she was 4th in PCS behind Kaori, Mone & Isabeau.

I just have a really hard time believing she's going to get PCS on the same level as the very top tier (the 6 US & JPN women, Chaeyeon, Loena & Gubanova) with PCS ranging from 32-35. I expect her to be in the next tier in the middle of the 29-31 PCS range in the SP (Schizas, Haein, Pinzarrone, Repond, Petrokina, Gutmann, Samodelkina, Sauter, Mikutina & Kurakova).

It’s very tricky because:
To combat low PCs you may need to risk it and go for 3A and also Established skaters can reduce difficulty and hope for more GOE but that is a strategy that may not be available to Petrosian. The judges don’t know her. She may only get +1 for a great double axel someone established may get +4 on. So if someone is in Beijing who was also at worlds or euros and they do a great double axel they get more GOE than Petrosian. So she may have to do a triple. If she is only getting+1 and 6 pcs she has to do something

 

[TAHbKA]

Richaud is in Moscow to choreograph an Fd for Kaganovskaya/Nekrasov and an LP for Muravieva

 

[caseyedwards]

On one level that seems like a waste of money because those teams aren’t doing anything but Russian events! But I guess they are of the belief you should try to grow and impress even only Russian judges and fans?!?

 

[Karen-W]

On one level that seems like a waste of money because those teams aren’t doing anything but Russian events! But I guess they are of the belief you should try to grow and impress even only Russian judges and fans?!?

Ehhhhh... I don't know that it necessarily hurts them to start getting choreo from outside Russia, even if it is Richaud. Even if Russia isn't allowed back into international sports without restriction until the 2026-27 season, it doesn't hurt these skaters to orient their skating & style to what is scoring well internationally.

FWIW, I liked Muravieva when she was on the JGP a few years ago and Plushenko has struck me as quite intentional in the development of AOP. As much as I think many of us were inclined to write it off as a vanity project, he's putting good effort into developing more well-rounded skaters than the ones churned out by Team Eteri.

 

[kwanfan1818]

Tutberidze churned out champions and championship contenders. When they no longer meet that definition, she goes to the next.

Plushenko is a coach and show producer, which is a long-term proposition. Not everyone will be a star or champion, but many more can be a professional and transition out of the competitive ranks into performance.

 

[rfisher]

Ehhhhh... I don't know that it necessarily hurts them to start getting choreo from outside Russia, even if it is Richaud. Even if Russia isn't allowed back into international sports without restriction until the 2026-27 season, it doesn't hurt these skaters to orient their skating & style to what is scoring well internationally.

FWIW, I liked Muravieva when she was on the JGP a few years ago and Plushenko has struck me as quite intentional in the development of AOP. As much as I think many of us were inclined to write it off as a vanity project, he's putting good effort into developing more well-rounded skaters than the ones churned out by Team Eteri.

She's no longer with Plushenko. She hasn't lived up to her potential. She is talented, but very inconsistent.

 

[Karen-W]

She's no longer with Plushenko. She hasn't lived up to her potential. She is talented, but very inconsistent.

Well, leaving Plushenko hasn't made her any better then, lol.

 

[rfisher]

Well, leaving Plushenko hasn't made her any better then, lol.

Unknown as she left at the end of last season after two not very good seasons. IMHO, she's too erratic and cannot control her nerves. If one thing goes wrong, she's prone to totally falling apart.

 

[caseyedwards]

Ehhhhh... I don't know that it necessarily hurts them to start getting choreo from outside Russia, even if it is Richaud. Even if Russia isn't allowed back into international sports without restriction until the 2026-27 season, it doesn't hurt these skaters to orient their skating & style to what is scoring well internationally.

FWIW, I liked Muravieva when she was on the JGP a few years ago and Plushenko has struck me as quite intentional in the development of AOP. As much as I think many of us were inclined to write it off as a vanity project, he's putting good effort into developing more well-rounded skaters than the ones churned out by Team Eteri.

That’s another aspect. They want to reflect the outside world and trends even if they are only aiming for the Olympic qualifying event in September 2029. Keep up with the joneses!

 

[Ka3sha]

Muravieva switched from Pluschenko to Mishin, whose students have been working with Benoit for a very long time. Even during the last few domestic seasons, he has at least worked with Semenenko (not sure if there were more).

 

[Karen-W]

So, apparently the ISU Council is going to review/consider Zhilina's case at their next in-person meeting in July.

Источник назвал дату рассмотрения ISU вопроса открепления Жилиной от ФФККР

Совет Международного союза конькобежцев (ISU) рассмотрит вопрос получения открепления получившей паспорт Азербайджана Вероники Жилиной от Федерации фигурного... РИА Новости Спорт, 28.05.2025

rsport.ria.ru

 

[caseyedwards]

If she paid Russia back there doesn’t seem to any problems! She was trying to get a release while being on reserve team and taking money. The nerve!