Prince Andrew

[kwanfan1818]

He cannot be stripped of his title of Prince. He can be asked to leave the royal grounds entirely, but he has a lease and can refuse legally.

 

[MLIS]

Removing the title of Prince would involve King Charles issuing a new Letters Patent defining who is entitled to be called HRH or Prince/Princess (the current definition of HRH stems from the Letters Patent issued by George V in 1917). I think Charles is unlikely to do that, partly because he is more reluctant to act in general (hoping Andrew will do the right thing on his own?), and because it would open up a can of worms about removing other HRHs (Harry and Meghan for example, who are not supposed to be using their HRHs but did not have them removed, and even people like Beatrice and Eugenie who have, and use, HRHs but live private lives and are not working royals). I fully expect William will issue a new Letters Patent when he becomes king, though, possibly removing the HRH from all but the direct line of succession.

 

[Karen-W]

Removing the title of Prince would involve King Charles issuing a new Letters Patent defining who is entitled to be called HRH or Prince/Princess (the current definition of HRH stems from the Letters Patent issued by George V in 1917). I think Charles is unlikely to do that, partly because he is more reluctant to act in general (hoping Andrew will do the right thing on his own?), and because it would open up a can of worms about removing other HRHs (Harry and Meghan for example, who are not supposed to be using their HRHs but did not have them removed, and even people like Beatrice and Eugenie who have, and use, HRHs but live private lives and are not working royals). I fully expect William will issue a new Letters Patent when he becomes king, though, possibly removing the HRH from all but the direct line of succession.

My expectation is that he will remove the HRH & Prince/Princess style/honor for anyone who is not a working royal. He may clarify that only children & grandchildren of a monarch & their spouses are entitled to the dignity of the HRH-Prince/Princess designation if they choose, as an adult, to enter a life of public service on behalf of the monarchy.

I also think he'll allow anyone who has served the monarchy with honor for their entire lives to retire & retain the HRH-Prince/Princess style - so, the Kents & Gloucesters aren't unceremoniously dumped.

There has been some whispers that he may even apply that same logic to his own children - though I don't know how he would have them then styled - possibly the same way Louise & James have been styled their entire lives? George would, obviously, become Duke of Cornwall upon William's accession, but perhaps Lady Charlotte & Lord Louis? That may be an option - and I could see him extending that to all of his first cousins as well as his nephew & niece as a way of signaling their close descent from a monarch but not putting any onus on them for a public life if they don't want that themselves when they reach adulthood.

 

[skategal]

I feel like I’ve heard this story before. They are going to take titles away from their family members when they are monarch.

But then they become monarch and don’t.

I guess it’s a good bargaining chip to keep the others behaving.

 

[Lynn226]

I feel like I’ve heard this story before. They are going to take titles away from their family members when they are monarch.

But then they become monarch and don’t.

I guess it’s a good bargaining chip to keep the others behaving.

Prince William was mentored by QE2 who buried her head in the sand when it came to Andrew and other problems. It's hard to believe he would be radically different.

 

[MacMadame]

How does he pay for it all? The mystery of Prince Andrew’s money

The disgraced royal has lived in luxury for decades despite being an outcast and having no obvious means of financial support

www.theguardian.com

 

[Vagabond]

Prince Andrew in advanced talks about moving out of Royal Lodge, reports say

Buckingham Palace trying to increase pressure on prince to give up home for which he pays ‘peppercorn’ rent

www.theguardian.com

Prince Andrew is reportedly in advanced talks with King Charles’s senior aides about moving out of his Royal Lodge home after a week in which his “peppercorn” rent tenancy has come under scrutiny.

Can council housing be far behind?

 

[Lynn226]

Prince Andrew in advanced talks about moving out of Royal Lodge, reports say

Buckingham Palace trying to increase pressure on prince to give up home for which he pays ‘peppercorn’ rent

www.theguardian.com

Can council housing be far behind?

Are rummage sales a thing in Britain? He can sell his personal belongings on the front lawn. Cash only.

 

[allezfred]

Yuck

Prince Andrew hosted Epstein, Maxwell and Weinstein at Royal Lodge - BBC News

The trio were at Andrew's mansion in 2006 as part of his daughter Beatrice's 18th birthday celebrations.

www.bbc.com

 

[Wyliefan]

For his teenage daughter's birthday! EW!

 

[fan]

Andrew likely has some inheritance from the Queen.

 

[Winnipeg]

Perhaps he should be lodged in the local prison for his actions with underage girls

 

[overedge]

It's like the trifecta of serial abusers.

 

[Winnipeg]

IMHO, PA and SF should quietly leave the country and live under the radar for several years. Maybe a nice beach area in India or Brazil?

 

[Vagabond]

I can see the description in a future biography now:

It ended ... in an establishment being formed for them in another country, remote and private, where, shut up together with little society, on one side no affection, on the other no judgment, it may be reasonably supposed that their tempers became their mutual punishment.

 

[Karen-W]

IMHO, PA and SF should quietly leave the country and live under the radar for several years. Maybe a nice beach area in India or Brazil?

Juan Carlos now lives in private luxury in the UAE. It's been reported that apparently Andrew (and probably Sarah) have a similar offer but they're loathe to leave the UK because of their daughters and grandchildren.