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Yesterday's practice went ok - jumps were ok but both loop and flips were giving me fits and getting me incredibly frustrated so coach moved me on to field moves and turns, she went for all of the turns that I usually struggle with for various mental block reasons (BI 3s, BO double 3s, FI Rocker pattern) and weirdly all of them were working really well. I was totally amazed.

The FI rockers are done on a serpentine pattern, LFO 3 turn, push on RBO and cross, step onto RFI edge RFI rocker on the axis, push onto LBO edge, cross, step onto LFI edge, LFI rocker and repeat. Usually the RFI goes all sorts of wrong, I break at the waist, and turn the foot too far out and don't push onto the correct pattern so i'm all over the place to try and do the turn but things were working well. A few of them were clearly RFI 3s with a quick edge change, but I cleaned them up to basically be proper rockers.

I haven't managed to get through that pattern for months but I managed it and it was the last thing we did so I left the ice feeling positive.
 

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Me again! I am loving having flexitime at work it means I get to leave early and avoid the traffic and have a proper practice now rather than a rushed session.

Last night went really well - having the extra time means that I get to warm up slowly with stroking and exercises to get my knees and body working properly. My friend was on the session about 15 minutes after I got there so we worked together and did all of our 3 turns forward, backward, inside and outside, taught each other some moves that each of our coaches likes, then decided to jump. It was really helpful sharing tips from our different coaches. She managed to get me to land my loop on one foot so I was very pleased.

Then it was lesson time and we did some of the moves I was too scared to do without someone able to watch my back earlier so back change of edge patterns and back cross rolls (which are still rubbish).

We moved onto jumps and I managed to land a couple of loops on one foot along with one ugly as sin salchow-loop combination but I muscled it out and landed on one foot.

Managed to eventually land a flip on one foot but our focus this week was on picking in further back. I have a habbit of letting the picking in foot start creeping back towards the skating foot and then planting the pick and letting the foot go down onto the edge as i'm jumping rather than coming up properly off the toe pick. So in making sure I stretch as far as I can and planting the top toe pick down, i'm obviously bending my skating leg much more, and I was consciously putting the toe in with a bit more force the jump was absolutely huge and scared the hell out of me. I had done the full rotation by the time I was at the top of the jump and over-rotated every attempt I made so i'm going to need to play around with it to figure out timing on it but I clearly don't need to bring my arms in much if the jump stays that size.

Anyway that was all good progress - spins were all working fairly well, and I was totally tired out and sweating by the end of the session so I was really happy.
 

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Asked coach if we could work on bits of the Fourteen Step. We worked on the end pattern and I did the cross behind all but the first time we tried. Cross behinds are my nemesis (I blame Rhythm Blues), so I am ridiculously thrilled by this achievement!

In other news the WTF-Cover-Versions craze has reached our rink. Someone was skating to an orchestral version of 'Take On Me' today. :huh:
 

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There's a girl at our rink skating to the most awful recoding of a song from the Greatest Showman soundtrack - it starts quietly and builds to a sound system wrecking crescendo at the end. It's not like her coach doesn't know it gets louder, why they can just play the whole think more quietly i'll never know. I made my coach laugh by attempting to do a toe-loop with my fingers in my ears...I only made it through the three turn and until my toe picked in before I pulled them out, but she was impressed that I controlled the landing enough to put my fingers back in my ears on an extended RBO edge :lol:

Also I had a great lesson where I even landed a flip on one foot!
 

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Coach and I kept having to move out of range of the speakers on a recent lesson so we could hear each other because the music was so loud. I am convinced all young people are half deaf because if it sounds loud to me then it should by rights sound ridiculously loud to them.
 

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Coach and I just skate over and she turns down the music to an acceptable level. Unless it's on a phone then she hands it to me to turn down to an acceptable level. Luckily most people don't blare their music at my rink though.

First skate back from my trip and first lesson back from my trip, we did jumps because I was dying to jump. Salchow was just a pile of garbage, toe loops were good, I did a couple of severely under-rotated loops (but I managed to get my body in somewhat the right position which is always a challenge on a loop for me), and then worked my way up to some one-footed UR flips. I felt it in every joint of my body the next day, but it was so good!
 

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Well I had six weeks off the ice initially for holidays and then because I have had an unexplained knee injury.

Four physio sessions later - he checks the knee every time and says it's fine it's the muscles that connect into it from the top that are causing the issue- and i'm walking pain free so I risked a trip to the rink yesterday.

Stroking was fine, I spent a long time just stroking around the rink slowly going lower and getting my knees bent. I was scared to stop because I didn't want to put too much pressure through the right knee to stop, but it was ok. I did some two foot slaloms and swizzles and the knee felt fine. I moved on to Forward outside then inside edges and they were fine, tried back outside edges, but the strike from the right foot to go onto a LBO edge caused a little bit of discomfort in the knee so I stopped. I managed forward outside change of edges and then inside change of edges.

Decided that was plenty for my first session back and left it there.

I'm still walking pain free today so it's good that I haven't aggravated it.
 

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@antmanb I'm having a knee issue that sounds similar to yours. You may want to have your doc check to see if you did anything to the popliteal tendon (which is what happened to me). I'm recovering well, but struggling with crossovers in certain directions only on account of the injury. Wearing a compression sleeve while skating helps a lot for me.
 

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Thanks @Theoreticalgirl i'll ask the physio (I haven't seen a doctor because I didn't want to wait for three weeks). I have issues with how talkative and unprofessional the physio i'm seeing is, but since i'm having success with his treatments, i'm biting my tongue and trying to stop myself from slapping him. But I will ask about this. I'm hoping next week i'll have my final session with him...maybe one more once I resume normal gym training just to see.

ETA: I've just read about the popliteal tendon and it seems this is at the back of the knee and causes pain in the back of the knee. The pain I experience is in the front and quite high up on the knee.
 

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Well my knee has been fine all week so I went to the rink last night and tested it out a lot more. I did all the 3 turns, forwards, backwards, inside and outside and the knee felt ok (the BI turns were dreadful but that's a different problem). Changes of edge outside to inside and vice versa, forwards and backwards and everything was fine.

I didn't get any pain from striking forcefully onto back edges. I tried a few spin entrances to see if the transition from RBI to LFO edge cause pain and it didn't so I did lots of forward spins.

At the very end of the session I wanted to see how jumps felt so I warmed up just by doing some small jumped backwards swizzles. That felt fine to I moved onto holding a landing edge and hopping, progressively doing bigger hops. Everything felt fine to I did small from standing waltz jumps that felt fine so I built them up a little bit but not to full speed. In the end I got salchow and toe-loop out and even got a small crappy loop on one foot, although I did step out of it fairly quickly.

Today my knee feels fine - a little stiff but so is the other one so I think it's general skating stiff and not injury stiff :cheer2:
 

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Thursday I had an excellent practice, worked out the revamped version of my ChSq, and managed to do it complete without dying.

Woke up Friday morning very stiff, and Saturday morning too, so no practices since. If I can get a skeleton run-through (no jumps/spins) done on Monday, I can probably enter the competition. I am quite determined to.
 

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Skeleton run-through completed. I did not die. Marked jumps and spins, but completed choreography to music, and with enough energy that I think I'll be fine with the jumps. Just checking the regs to make sure my planned layout is acceptable.
 

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Another good practice tonight, this time with a mostly run-through - all four jump attempts and one spin (not the other). And I didn't die. :cheer:

With that said...I suspect it may be smarter to only do the technical competition and not the artistic competition. (Of course, it actually would probably be smartest to do the artistic and not the technical - less jumps - but my current artistic is very fast). I had my heart set on both, but if I'm not doing proper runthroughs by this stage in the game - and entries close tomorrow - it's probably not a good idea.

Also slightly annoyed because I thought the rink would be open for practice on Saturday morning. Nope.
 

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