Papadakis CIzeron #4 - Happiness Does Not Wait

[MarieM]

Mhhh. I reserve judgement but these musics are not something I like at all...

 

[justtojoke]

I can't wait to see their programs!!!!

 

[cocotaffy]

Here is a translation from the article published in the French sport magazine L'equipe:

From the first seconds, everybody recognizes their SD music, the catchy Shape of You, one of 2017 hit. Ice dance connoisseurs today in Villars de Lans will most probably notice something else while observing their choreography. Because for the first time the double world champions collaborated with one of the legend of ice dance whose style is so unique. Christopher Dean, the 59 years old brit, revolutionized ice dance, winning the olympic gold in 1984 with Jayne Torvill on the Bolero, still present in people's mind, and then creating the Duchesnay's choreographies in the early 90's.
So, when Didier Gailhaguet suggested to ask for his help during this olympic season, the skaters agreed "We talk as a team with Romain, Marie-France and Patrice and all thought it was a good idea, says Cizeron. He's a skater we admire and respect a lot, it could only bring something positive and a different touch."
Being their fourth season in Montreal, the French were welcoming a bit of novelty. All the more so maybe concerning the SD which often cost them precious points and whose imposed theme this season doesn't come as naturally for them.
Dean came to Canada in July to do the choreography alongside Marie-France, and then came back 2 weeks to fine tune it. "He is an extraordinary man, with the aura of a great champion but also an ability to stay open-minded towards this couple whose identity is so strong" says Marie-France appreciative. " He's very attentive to the way people move but he does push you to do things you wouldn't normally do" adds Gabriella.
During training, Dean's 'involvement was evident. The Brit was decomposing each movement, often substituting himself to one of the dancer in a very focused yet relaxed atmosphere. " I think they were open to ideas and to move a bit differently, says Dean. I didn't come to change them but to share my knowledge of Latin Dances, of rhumba. They have so many abilities ! Their style is more classical, here it's all about rhythm. The idea is to free them, to make them feel the most important is less precision than freedom of movement."

 

[sap5]

Thanks for the translation! I'm glad that they are getting a different perspective on how to approach SDs. Learning to skate in different rhythms is an important aspect of ice dance, and it's why I very much value having both an SD (or "rhythm dance") and FD. Hopefully Dean has inspired them to truly enjoy the SD, and the challenges but also opportunities it can bring!

 

[VGThuy]

Here's a rhumba to Thinking Out Loud.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gxXA4_7WwnQ

I think those videos are from a person selling ballroom versions of songs and using pre-existing videos of dances and dubbing those songs over the dances. I think if someone were to choreograph a rhumba to the song itself, the choreography would match better with the song because I found the dance in the link above to be a disjointed from the song.

 

[Isabelle.G]

The short dance results are finally available: http://www.csndg.org/resultats/Masters2017/MAST2017_SeniorsDanse_SD_Scores.pdf
But I can't find any footage

 

[kittysk8ts]

The short dance results are finally available: http://www.csndg.org/resultats/Masters2017/MAST2017_SeniorsDanse_SD_Scores.pdf
But I can't find any footage

Well done! Level 4 for the Rhumba hitting all 3 key points.

 

[Miloune]

Well done! Level 4 for the Rhumba hitting all 3 key points.

But only level 2 on the twizzles... maybe one of them missed his/her blade again!

Anyway scores this weekend won't really mean something, the most interesting is the footage! I think we'll find none of the SD...

 

[kittysk8ts]

But only level 2 on the twizzles... maybe one of them missed his/her blade again!

Anyway scores this weekend won't really mean something, the most interesting is the footage! I think we'll find none of the SD...

Yes, we know they can do the twizzles and everything else. The level and key points on the rhumba were very important today and they got it!

PS: those damned twizzles!

 

[skategal]

I think those videos are from a person selling ballroom versions of songs and using pre-existing videos of dances and dubbing those songs over the dances.

Yes, I think it's just an example that the music can be used for a rhumba.

I hope someone finds footage soon of the SD. Can't wait to see it.

 

[Miloune]

Maybe TF1 will have some footage...

 

[sap5]

Gadbois does a good job of teaching CDs, it seems.

 

[cocotaffy]

The short dance results are finally available: http://www.csndg.org/resultats/Masters2017/MAST2017_SeniorsDanse_SD_Scores.pdf
But I can't find any footage

Apparently, they've specifically asked during the warm-up not to film and upload their SD and that in a week there will be good quality videos at Finlandia. I think it's a valid request, last year it backfired on them.

 

[Miloune]

Apparently, they've specifically ask during the warm-up not to film and upload their SD and that in a week there will be good quality videos at Finlandia. I think it's a valid request, last year it backfired on them.

Yep it's a reasonable request... (I'm actually dying to see it but as I know there'll be a live stream tomorrow for the FD I'm ready to make a concession on the SD.... ).

 

[sap5]

Unless they've also requested that their program not be livestreamed.

 

[supergirl573]

This is why the French Federation can stick it. Maybe P/C want to debut late so that their programs will be closer to perfection, but they are keeping them from getting commentary and Senior B money.

 

[sap5]

This is why the French Federation can stick it. Maybe P/C want to debut late so that their programs will be closer to perfection, but they are keeping them from getting commentary and Senior B money.

But they're skating at Finlandia next week?

ETA: The sad news about Ludmilla Belousova reminded me that the Protopopovs also skated to Moonlight Sonata.

 

[Miloune]

This is why the French Federation can stick it. Maybe P/C want to debut late so that their programs will be closer to perfection, but they are keeping them from getting commentary and Senior B money.

They'll be at Finlandia trophy next week! This year they're ready earlier because the goal is the OG in february and not worlds at the end of March. Plus I think they learnt from last year that they need feedback.

 

[sap5]

Plus the French Fed (DG) apparently suggested working with Dean in the first place.

 

[cocotaffy]

Exactly, everyone, including the federation, have learnt from their mistakes. They also invited couple of international judges at the Masters.

 

[nuge]

Oh it's going to be a long week

 

[Miloune]

A part of "tout le sport" from tonight : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XzXAQHmt-E

They didn't put the part at the begining with a bit of the SD sadly...
That stationary lift at the end was spectacular ! The speed !

 

[maya1985]

Some impressions: it's sexy, modern. The transitions are superb and the lift is very beautiful . Guillaume knows how to draw Gabriella's dresses.

 

[VGThuy]

A part of "tout le sport" from tonight : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XzXAQHmt-E

They didn't put the part at the begining with a bit of the SD sadly...
That stationary lift at the end was spectacular ! The speed !

It says video not available.

 

[Miloune]

Some impressions: it's sexy, modern. The transitions are superb and the lift is very beautiful . Guillaume knows how to draw Gabriella's dresses.

Thanks for your feedback!!
It's a new lift? What kind is it? Stationary, straight line...?

 

[Miloune]

It says video not available.

Maybe it's geoblocked.... :/

 

[supergirl573]

But they're skating at Finlandia next week?

ETA: The sad news about Ludmilla Belousova reminded me that the Protopopovs also skated to Moonlight Sonata.

I wanted to see them perform at US Classics or Lombardia, preferably at Classics so Gabriella's father could see them if he is still in America. However US Classics has perennially terrible streaming and Finlandia is probably going to be great for streams.

 

[millyskate]

https://www.france.tv/france-3/tout-le-sport/252827-emission-du-vendredi-29-septembre-2017.html
If you have a VPN, you can see a snipet of their SD practice here. Also a bit about the costume fitting, and Gabriella wants to get rid of the top stripes. The dressmaker says be careful of costume deductions.

 

[sap5]

They look good to me. Definitely look like they're moving differently than they did in the past.

 

[millyskate]

The presenter also mentions that they'll show the FS tomorrow, so hopefully that means they've agreed about the streaming!