News and updates à la Française, part trois

If feels like Gadbois teams are getting the edge in these national selections right? Aren't Smart/Diaz Gadbois as well?
Not really the same though, since S/D did win Nationals. That one actually made sense, but going with L/LG is harder since they were 4th at Nats and then even had a lower senior B score post Euros than G/T (different comps).
 
WTF??? Why aren’t G/T going? 😡

Are they hoping that the team with a more established reputation will pull through at the last minute and get them a third ID spot? Because I have to say, I don't see that happening this year given how L/LG have been doing. Not that G/T would be able to either, but when the chance isn't there you send the best you have, and right now that's G/T.
 
But also: the French entries for Jr Worlds and Worlds have been announced. I was somewhat surprised to see that Lauriault/Le Gac ended up getting the spot after all...

Really? I'm very surprised as Lauriault & Le Gac scored lower than Galayavieva & Thauron's European's total at the Bavarian Open, and Galayavieva & Thauron also scored several points higher at Egna than either L&LG's new score or G&T's Euros score. Since these are the only events that have happened since Euros & Nationals, I really did assume G&T were in the clear.

I get that L&LG have a higher SB, but you would think if that mattered, they would have been sent to Euros. And frankly, there is no reason France shouldn't have sent both teams to the same post-Euros senior B. Then at least you would have an international head-to-head on the books.
 
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They should have sent L&LG and G&T to Euros and settled it there, as much as I like L&B and was happy they got to skate at Euros.

If L&LG skated well they could have finished in the top 10. Even with the rough year, I think they could have edged out the Ukranians at least.
 
Not really the same though, since S/D did win Nationals. That one actually made sense, but going with L/LG is harder since they were 4th at Nats and then even had a lower senior B score post Euros than G/T (different comps).
Hard to say...Was Didier still king when decision made? He sometimes assigns using spite as criteria. Or French Federation always is low on funds. P/C can walk to the Bell Centre and have practices and xtra training at their own rink with no jetlag. L&LG might be same situation (not sure where they stay during the week). If their programs (if clean) have a higher base value than the other couples that could have been taken into account. If the expenses are just meals and taxi's ?????? If judges are listening to the crowds Marie-Jade is a quebecer and they have trained in Mtl a long time.
 
If their programs (if clean) have a higher base value than the other couples that could have been taken into account.

Even at Warsaw Cup, where Lauriault & Le Gac earned their SB score this season, Lopareva & Brissaud had a higher overall base value. (Higher in the RD, lower in the free; but L&B had the higher B.V. overall). Perhaps tomorrow I will have the motivation to go digging through scores from other events to provide a more educated response, but I don't think it is base value that L&LG have been winning this season. Generally speaking, when less established teams defeat teams that are more established, it is because the less established ones are winning the base value.
 
Péchalat has been elected as the new president of FFSG with 72% of the votes

ETA: Yesterday 3 of the other candidates, who withdrew shortly before the election, condemned the decision to go ahead with the election despite the coronavirus situation
 
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Péchalat has been elected as the new president of FFSG with 72% of the votes

ETA: Yesterday 3 of the other candidates, who withdrew shortly before the election, condemned the decision to go ahead with the election despite the coronavirus situation

So her tenure starts with unnecessary controversy? Sigh.
 
The gist seems to be that three other candidates asked for a postponement of the election, due to COVID-19, including restricted movement, but were denied.
 
Didn’t they vote online anyway? Why would anyone ask for a delay?
 
For crying out loud. Can the Minister for Sport just kick the whole lot out now, and found a new Federation once the country's out of lockdown? Or let the NOC handle next season and get a new body in place for the Olympic year?
 
Péchalat has been elected as the new president of FFSG with 72% of the votes
P. has to acquire a lot of knowledge, who else than the previous hierarchy of the FFSG should be better suited for this. This society has reaffirmed itself, although much broader societal problems need to be resolved outside of its usual agenda, the political system is failing across the board. Unless the French don't want to change anything. A reassuring message for the riffraff, and a bad signal to those affected in the past, for now and in the future.
 
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I assume to stop Pechelat from becoming President. Now they can claim her mandate is illegitimate.
Spot on. I assume they knew she was popular enough to win, and they had almost no chance to be elected. Withdrawing was a way to make her get elected but look bad. I don't understand why people see Nathalie as Gailhaguet's puppet. When she was an ice dancer she was known to often be at loggerheads with him. She is extremely tenacious, when she wants something, she never ever gives up. And if people think someone can tell her what to do, they really don't know who she is. I don't know if she'll be able to do something really positive for French ice sports. What I know is that if one undermines what she does from the start, with attacking her just for being elected, she will have no chance to show what she's worth. I find it totally unfair. Can't she, at least, been given the benefice of the doubt ? Frankly, if I were president of a French club and had had to vote, I'd been shared between Damien Boyer-Gibaud and her (with a little preference for him). But seeing how he's acting now really gives pause...
 
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Didn’t they vote online anyway? Why would anyone ask for a delay?
Machine translated bits from the article I linked to should answer your question:

On Friday afternoon, the Federation decided to maintain the vote, despite the state ban on rallies of more than 100 people, allowing only a limited number of people access to the hall where candidates must be to speak out. (...)

" (...) With nearly 160 presidents convened, how can the Federation predict tonight that there will be fewer than 100 people present tomorrow? Does she already know the exact number of people present or represented tonight? »

"Furthermore, this approach excludes, contrary to the statutory provisions, any presence of licensees and persons entitled to attend. What remains of the associative and democratic approach of this election? In the eyes of France, in the spotlight and at a time when licensees are asking for transparency, this is yet another decision that further undermines the credibility of our organization [...] We categorically refuse to join a new scandal that is hitting our Federation: the manipulation of the election with a view to installing a pre-designated candidate [The three candidates refer to the fourth candidate, Nathalie Péchalat, NDLR]. Without postponement of the election, and a fair, impartial and dignified campaign, we withdraw from this charade. »
 
Got it. I keep forgetting how entrenched these types of orgs are in legacy process.
 
Spot on. I assume they knew she was popular enough to win, and they had almost no chance to be elected. Withdrawing was a way to make her get elected but look bad. I don't understand why people see Nathalie as Gailhaguet's puppet. When she was an ice dancer she was known to often be at loggerheads with him. She is extremely tenacious, when she wants something, she never ever gives up. And if people think someone can tell her what to do, they really don't know who she is. I don't know if she'll be able to do something really positive for French ice sports. What I know is that if one undermines what she does from the start, with attacking her just for being elected, she will have no chance to show what she's worth. I find it totally unfair. Can't she, at least, been given the benefice of the doubt ? Frankly, if I were president of a French club and had had to vote, I'd been shared between Damien Boyer-Gibaud and her (with a little preference for him). But seeing how he's acting now really gives pause...
She lost the benefit of the doubt for me when she shared Morgan Cipres' endorsement of her.
 
She lost the benefit of the doubt for me when she shared Morgan Cipres' endorsement of her.
I really doubt she manages her public social networks herself. Ciprès' endorsement was quickly taken down. But it surely was a gigantic faux pas.
 
I really doubt she manages her public social networks herself. Ciprès' endorsement was quickly taken down. But it surely was a gigantic faux pas.

I don't think it was quickly taken down - it was part of an IG story (which only lasts for up to 24 hours). I first saw it ~8 hours after it was posted.

My personal reservations with Pechalat are due to a myriad of reasons (I'm cross-posting my response to another thread below). While I'm sure that she's, at times, worked with publicists/social media managers, I'm pretty sure she at least partially manages her social media accounts (for e.g. I don't see anyone other than Nathalie herself writing the 02/28 post in re: to the Jean Dujardin-Roman Polanski controversy).

I can only speak for myself, but the following actions have led me to be less than optimistic about Péchalat's presidency:

- She announced her campaign without informing the members of the "resistance group" (a group of former athletes, including Abitbol, Peizerat, Gusmeroli, Delobel, Schoenfelder, Candeloro, etc.) that she had met with (and worked closely with several members during this situation). IMO the fact that she decided to run for FFSG president without informing a group that was actively advocating for the de-certification of the FFSG was concerning.

- Her policies, especially the fact that she doesn't plan to clean house at the FFSG. The language she uses (such as stating that she doesn't want to go on a "witch hunt", that the goal is "to reassure parents and not become paranoid", etc.) also makes me very uncomfortable.

- IMO her IG post re: the Jean Dujardin-Roman Polanski scandal was problematic AF. I spoke about my opinions on it in another thread:



- Reposting Morgan Cipres's endorsement of her campaign on IG - a huge no-no

My criticisms & opinions of Pechalat has to do with her actions. In re: to her presidency, I'm hoping for the best but expecting the worse.
 
A new interview with Brian Joubert. Most of it is about coaching and the skaters he works with, but I am happy to report that he still has many, many pets:
parrots, fifteen snakes, a lizard, a turtle, dogs, fish… They help me to forget figure skating. When I take care of them, spend time with them, my battery gets full again and I can come back on the ice.
Fifteen snakes???
 
Péchalat has been elected as the new president of FFSG with 72% of the votes

ETA: Yesterday 3 of the other candidates, who withdrew shortly before the election, condemned the decision to go ahead with the election despite the Beer Burden situation

i am not obviously not up to stuff with this so can someone explain to me what. the BEER Burden situation is? thanks
 

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