DobrinFan
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Samodurova can barely jump over a newspaper. 3A/Quad? I'll believe when I see it. My bet is on Kostornaia every time.
Guliakova has been talking about this mythical 3A for years. Bet still on Kostornaia.
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Samodurova can barely jump over a newspaper. 3A/Quad? I'll believe when I see it. My bet is on Kostornaia every time.
Guliakova has been talking about this mythical 3A for years. Bet still on Kostornaia.
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I don’t think it works that way though!
TAHbKA
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Because the shows begin after the major victories and she gets a %
Well, Zagitova won the worlds being 16 and a couple of days, so....
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How high exactly are Scherbakova's jumps???
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Gotta be fast if you want to make that joke.Was coming here to post it and you beat me to the punch.
The comments from Eteri are as always pure class
hanca
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There was a video posted on YouTube of the 3A a few years back, so it definitely existed. One video doesn’t say how many unsuccessful attempts she had to do at that session to get one successful. It is possible that her success rate was very, very low, but she did land it and it looked clean. That doesn’t mean she can do it now though and that her success rate is high enough to put it into a competitive program.
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Higher than Samodurova. Sofia's are very Sotoko like and I've seen all them live. Plus Sofia is weak on PCS, slow and poor ice coverage. I saw her at SA and GPF and she never skated to my end of the rink. Still, I bet on Kostornaia.
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How do you bet on Valieva?
DobrinFan
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I don't watch juniors except for the men.
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True enough, but then her body changed rather a lot after that.
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Well, you might have to factor her into the equation.
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Kamila could peak at the right time, like Zagitova did.
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Yes, she could. In fact, she's my bet. Timing is everything. She has the skills and the motivation and she'll hit the Os at just the right age with regard to growth spurts.
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She worked hard on that. I hope she can get it back and get it into competition!
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Well, you might have to factor her into the equation.
You've missed the point. This isn't a bet on Valieva vs Kostornaia but Kostornaia vs Guliakova/Samodurova. Kostornaia is so much better, I don't know why she needs to worry about the last 2 at all.
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I'm not a betting person, but I'd like to be able to bet on Kostornaia because of her all-around skills/package. My fingers are crossed that she can stay healthy and have programs worthy of her expressiveness (eta: like her SP for the past 2 seasons).
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Same.
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Alena didn't respond to her text messages? Of course, previously used.
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At the moment her skating doesn’t hit the spot for me. While technically she is very decent, I can’t see anything standing out yet. (That doesn’t mean that after this coming season she won’t have anything that would make her stand out). At the moment, if I think about Trusova, I think of high risk, very high technical skills (all the quads) and very sporty style. Scherbakova also has very high technical level, and her style very gentle and expressive, a bit like Mao Asada style. Kostornaya’s style is very elegant. But Valieva? She has some quads, but she needs more if she wants to compete with Trusova and Scherbakova on technical side. But she is doesn’t really have a style as such. I know she is still junior and it will come. While I admire Valieva’s quads, I prefer Usacheva’s style of skating (if I compare her to a skater of her age).
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No. They are both barely above the newspaper.
Not even nearly. Aka Samodurova is not even nearly as graceful as Miyahara. If I had to name a Russian lady who is anywhere close to Miyahara I'd probably name Scherbakova.
That's true for all Mishin's juniors - Tuktamysheva used to cover 20x30. She was asked about it in the first senior GP and her answer was `I'm small, so I cover a small part of the ice rink'.
Her ice coverage in Minsk was not bad, at least I don't recall it being much worse than the other girls'. Perhaps she was not yet in shape at the GP, perhaps she was told to skate to the other side of the rink at least once a programme if she wanted to win something.
Mine would be with Tutberidze. Am not sure Pluschenko can pull any weight in the Russian nationals. Between Tutberidze/Buyanova(with Tarasova and Orser)/Mishin am afraid he might be in Davydov/Panova league influence wise (Trusova aside).
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Here I agree. Sotoko is the very definition of grace.
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Bestemianova - check, Butyrskaya - check.
Trankov and Dmitriev - how could I miss them!
Waiting for the rest of the line to comment....
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The world is clamoring for Leonova's opinion!
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Forget them, where's Tinami? 
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Averbukh already commented under Tutberidze’s post - some non translatable nonsense
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I just cannot with Goncharenko.
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Российская спортсменка перешла в группу Евгения Плющенко после проведенных сборов с Этери Тутберидзе
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good evening everyone I want to comment it all the latest news and the situation, because guess it just hurts so I want to make it in one go, so sorry if my words let me down. I will say what I feel. We all know that Alena no longer trains in our team. The back history is quite short really - I personally don't see the logic behind it, so let me tell how it went: the training camp begins, all that in our team came and for two months we are in Novogorsk, which is obvious from my haircut. We were working, Eteri Georgievna and I with our other coaches go on the night ice for choreographing. Its' funny Alena was the first to get the new programme this year and as tyou can imagine I uploaded the videos I loved the programmes and the weirdest thing taht Alena loved it - she asked to film hwo she does the sptes and she was having fun. And then all of the sudden in the middle of July she started training badly, not following our instructions, answering rudely and showing all is wrong. It does not long for a long time, we go on the 2nd group practice with the little kids, Alena was waiting for us in the corridor saying she no longer wants to train she already made plans training in Pluschenko's group. As you can imagine the reaction when leaving the practice and hearing that. I told her you must be mad right now, perhaps you are hurt by something and it's a reaction. She said she made the decision 2 months ago. I said I can't believe it because I can't believe she could make a decision and then go to the camp with us and enjoy the programme so much. But as her actions show - it was true. I ask not to feel sorry for us - it's our job, we love figure skating, we love our job and it brings us happiness and pain and it's part of our life and job. It's hard right now after such things to remain open and keep loving our kids - our skaters, believe in them and support them. But it happens to everyone as I said it's part of our job. So.. I don't know what else to say. Thanks everyone for the support, we'll keep working , all is still ahead of us, hope we'll make you happy with out programmes, skaters and results. We'll just keep working
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I'm sure Eteri will be fine. Morisi as well as Shcherbakova and Samsonov, and of course Valieva and Usacheva, will have a long, successful, and healthy senior careers and be able to support Eteri's surgeries and Daniil's couture coats and appropriated choreography for decades to come.
