Keeping Track of Criminal Cases & SafeSport Suspensions in Skating

[Vagabond]

Having a brother who was once arrested for

Spoiler: Possible trigger warning

sexting with a pre-teen girl

, I have bad feelings about allowing Sorensen to attend those weddings, but I can see that excluding him would have brought about a host of problems at their training center that the couples getting married wanted to avoid.

 

[Karen-W]

I will say I always thought it was a bit odd that Chock/Bates were the only ones blamed for this when that wasn't the only high-profile skater wedding that Nikolaj attended that summer. That said, in both cases I don't know that either couple had a duty to disinvite Laurence and/or tell her to keep her boyfriend at home, and both couples (and most skater guests) avoided drawing attention to his presence in the social media they shared from the weddings.

If the other couple had still been competing, I'm sure they would have drawn ire from their detractors. Really, all it was and remains is a "moral" justification to hate on/root against Chock & Bates.

 

[Barbara Manatee]

Really, all it was and remains is a "moral" justification to hate on/root against Chock & Bates.

A lot of people have a genuine horror of sexual abuse. The anger is true and righteous and doesn't deserve to be mocked as a silly uber pretense.

 

[Vagabond]

A lot of people have a genuine horror of sexual abuse. The anger is true and righteous and doesn't deserve to be mocked as a silly uber pretense.

As a survivor, I have a genuine horror of sexual abuse. Chock & Bates, however, are not accused of sexual abuse.

Posts like yours only serve to make it harder for people to have a proper discussion of abuse.

 

[Barbara Manatee]

Posts like yours only serve to make it harder for people to have a proper discussion of abuse.

Huh? How so?

 

[Jayar]

Wrong thread

 

[Vagabond]

Huh? How so?

Your post distracts attention from what happened to Sorensen's victim and why people like Fournier-Beaudry, Cizeron. Dubreuil, and Lauzon have been either standing up for him or at least letting continue to coach during periods when he is not under suspension. Neither Chock nor Bates has done anything of the sort, yet they have drawn more criticism on FSU than the people who run IAM.

I write this as a survivor who has lost my connection to most of my extended family and many family friends who have not stood up for or otherwise supported me.

 

[Barbara Manatee]

I don't understand how it is a distraction to say that people are not upset by C/B socializing with Sorensen simply because they are fans of another team. There are many conversations that need to be had around the response to abuse.

I do agree that IAM should be getting far more scrutiny than it is.

 

[MacMadame]

Chock nor Bates has done anything of the sort, yet they have drawn more criticism on FSU than the people who run IAM.

IAM has gotten major criticism all over the internet and this thread. The wedding attendance has been a blip in comparison.

 

[Vagabond]

IAM has gotten major criticism all over the internet and this thread. The wedding attendance has been a blip in comparison.

Find the posters criticizing Chock and Bates and then see which of those posters have also posted about Lauzon and Dubreuil's personal involvement in letting Sorensen on the premises. Even better, look for the ones criticizing Jamal Othman, whose job description requires him to take action against coaches and skaters accused of sexual abuse.

 

[MacMadame]

Find the posters criticizing Chock and Bates and then see which of those posters have also posted about Lauzon and Dubreuil's personal involvement in letting Sorensen on the premises. Even better, look for the ones criticizing Jamal Othman, whose job description requires him to take action against coaches and skaters accused of sexual abuse.

Moving the goalposts.

 

[Karen-W]

A lot of people have a genuine horror of sexual abuse. The anger is true and righteous and doesn't deserve to be mocked as a silly uber pretense.

And I stand by my position that there are a lot of people (not necessarily on FSU but in the FS fandom in general) who are absolutely using feigned moral outrage toward Chock & Bates having Nik Sorensen at their wedding as a justification to cheer against them rather than just owning the fact that they don't LIKE Chock & Bates' skating in general & want them to lose to other teams. As another poster pointed out, Kristen Moore-Towers & Liam Firus also invited Nik & Lolo to their wedding and yet they have encountered very little criticism despite the fact that Kristen has gone into broadcasting and coaching now. There is a double standard being applied which does NOTHING to move forward any discussion about sexual assault or power dynamics within the sport.