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The track and field event going on right now is indoor too. Not the season for outdoor track and field![]()

The track and field event going on right now is indoor too. Not the season for outdoor track and field![]()
I guess technically they never have to be inside.The track and field event going on right now is indoor too. Not the season for outdoor track and field![]()
ISU calendar for 2021/22 Grand Prix Calendar:
1. Skate America
Oct,22-24
2. Skate Canada
Oct, 29-31 (Vancouver)
3. Cup of China
Nov, 5-7
4. NHK Trophy
Nov, 12-14
5. Internationaux de France (Grenoble)
Nov, 19-21
6. Rostelecom Cup
Nov, 26-28 (Moscow)
ISU Grdand Prix Final
Dec, 9-12 (Osaka, Japan)
Asian Open Figure Skating Trophy (Oct, 13-17) is an official Olympic test event.
(info from the same Russian journalist's telegram channel
https://t.me/lapidarnst/830 )
The Council confirmed that the other pending ISU Events of the 2020/21 season remain scheduled as planned, subject to pandemic developments and no quarantine requirements and/or prohibitive / extensive entry restrictions:
the ISU World Figure Skating Championships remain scheduled as planned, to be held in Stockholm, Sweden on March 22-28, 2021. Since these Championships serve as a Qualification Competition for the 2022 Olympic Winter Games in Beijing, the Council will review the Olympic Qualification status at its next meeting. Depending on the actual entries received by the deadline of March 1, 2021, the ISU Council will evaluate and decide at that time whether and which changes to the Olympic qualification system could be necessary.
Due to the ongoing pandemic and detrimental consequences for the organizing and participating ISU Members, including organizational issues, travel restrictions, lack of training and preparation time and finally the confirmation from many ISU Members that they would not be able to attend, the Council decided that the the ISU World Synchronized Skating Championships 2021, scheduled to be held in Zagreb (CRO) on April 9-10, 2021 are cancelled.
The only problems I foresee with this are:
1) It needs to be no-warnings. It would only take one person being irresponsible, especially if that person comes from a country where this is not under control, and suddenly the 'rona is being passed around like wildfire.
2) If the ISU made such a policy, it would need to have the balls to enforce it, since Russia will probably run out of warnings on Day 1.
Right?! It doesn't matter what sport it is. We're still living in a dangerous time and I really hope that they do enforce the rules. It only takes one to ruin the event.ISU should call it the "Phil Hersh rule with the misskarne amendment". You guys would have to go in hiding for the rest of your lives if Japan was the one to break the rule.![]()
I think part of it is that we are on a figure skating message board that attracts passionate fans. Also, some fans are from countries that have essentially eradicated the virus so they feel strongly about how things should be done. However, Most countries are not that way, and competitions are still continuing Relatively safely. I understand where both sides are coming from, although I am on the side that World’s should happen. I also think if you ask most athletes they would agree. I also think that the fact that World’s were cancelled last year is putting a lot of pressure on the ISU to hold this year’s World’s.Tons of sports are holding international competitions right now, I don't know why this is such a drama with figure skating.
If it get's cancelled, it would certainly be because of travel issues and not because of the actual holding of the event.
Reading this thread, one gets the impression skaters are the most undiscipled and unprofessional people out there, in comparison to track and field athletes, soccer players, ski jumpers, alpine skiers, handball players, tennis players, ...![]()
So basically what the ISU announced yesterday was they won't make a final announcement (and quite possibly a final decision) until after their March 2nd meeting.
the ISU World Figure Skating Championships remain scheduled as planned, to be held in Stockholm, Sweden on March 22-28, 2021. Since these Championships serve as a Qualification Competition for the 2022 Olympic Winter Games in Beijing, the Council will review the Olympic Qualification status at its next meeting. Depending on the actual entries received by the deadline of March 1, 2021, the ISU Council will evaluate and decide at that time whether and which changes to the Olympic qualification system could be necessary [emphasis mine].
No, it’s not responsible, because as things stand federations will feel pressure to go to Worlds because if they don’t they may end up missing Olympic qualification.Or it is being responsible and saying that they are open to making changes if needed.
I think part of it is that we are on a figure skating message board that attracts passionate fans. Also, some fans are from countries that have essentially eradicated the ***** so they feel strongly about how things should be done. However, Most countries are not that way, and competitions are still continuing Relatively safely. I understand where both sides are coming from, although I am on the side that World’s should happen. I also think if you ask most athletes they would agree. I also think that the fact that World’s were cancelled last year is putting a lot of pressure on the ISU to hold this year’s World’s.
Did the ISU say anything about tech minimums? I thought they were supposed to release more information after this meeting?
I understand that's how it is written, but I didn't misread it. To me the significant (and thus emphasized by me) part of the statement was the need to mention the March 1 deadline for actual entries.@missing You have misread it. That is not what it says at all. It says that depending on the actual entries received, they will evaluate and decide whether changes to the Olympic qualification system could be necessary. Read it again.
Nothing is ever 100% fair.I also think some fans have this idea that things just have to be 100% fair for all athlethes, but that's just not going to happen this year.
So then as I asked above, what is the other option? Since you're from Canada, I'm using Canada as the example here. Say they don't want to send skaters to a Worlds in March or even a delayed April or May situation. I think some posters are still going to run with the narrative that the Fed is being forced to send participants even if they come out and straight-up say they feel the safety regulations and precautions are adequate.Nothing is ever 100% fair.
But this is no ordinary time, as I think everyone should acknowledge. Just look at Anastasia Shpilevaya’s recent interview for what the stakes are if this goes awry.
France has every intention of sending a team to Worlds, and they also understand it to still be the Olympic qualifier at this point. The early-on P/C stuff being a supposed sign of/voice of something else has absolute zero credibility.I don't know what is going on with France, given all the issues with their Federation over the past year, but the idea that Canada and Japan are unable to advocate for themselves seems unlikely to me.
I don't know what is going on with France, given all the issues with their Federation over the past year, but the idea that Canada and Japan are unable to advocate for themselves seems unlikely to me.
What decision? Just a list of officials.Japan and Canada both have representatives on the ISU Council (Tatsuru Matsumura and Benoit Lavoie, respectively) that just announced this decision:
Council - International Skating Union
The International Skating Union is the international sport federation administering Ice Skating sports throughout the world.www.isu.org
Don't jump into the thread lateWhat decision? Just a list of officials.
What decision? Just a list of officials.
Don’t assume that you’re the only Totum Factotum of FSU!Don't jump into the thread late-- linked a few posts above
Decisions of the Council - Update on ISU Event Calendar - International Skating Union
The ISU Council met on January 28, 2021 via an online meeting. Find out the decisions taken by the Council during the meeting here.www.isu.org
We really cannot know what the fall will be like. We can hope, based on vaccination projections, that it will be better. But if it’s not, then you’re getting into questions about whether the Winter Olympics will happen, which makes the whole thing somewhat moot.So then as I asked above, what is the other option? Since you're from Canada, I'm using Canada as the example here. Say they don't want to send skaters to a Worlds in March or even a delayed April or May situation. I think some posters are still going to run with the narrative that the Fed is being forced to send participants even if they come out and straight-up say they feel the safety regulations and precautions are adequate.
What if the situation in Canada gets better for a bit and then goes up again, just as it did before? Then somehow the ISU is supposed to cater to these situations at a later date with a completely revised plan that REALLY pushes it to a last-minute 'force you to go to the competition' scenario?
Or, as a poster straight-up said above, since the majority of the US and Canada is supposed to be vaccinated by September (and because of that, 'International travel should be safe'), should we just wait around for that while other countries may not be in that situation at all?
Thanks, claire. I thought that you had brand-new news!I edited the post to be more clear that I meant yesterday's decision about Worlds continuing.
I mean, I don't want to derail this thread with a bunch of back-and-forth but it was really tongue-in-cheek denoted by theThanks. I thought that you had brand-new news! How utterly rude of certain jerks to assume that they’re the only intelligent one on FSU.
Got it. Perhaps you can learn to assume the best in other people.I mean, I don't want to derail this thread with a bunch of back-and-forth but it was really tongue-in-cheek denoted by the(as I'm not even the one who posted the original ISU link above), and second-- you might want to re-read that last part and check some of your own posts.