Grand Prix de France 2023 Women FS - “Gone with the Ouiiiiiiiii”

[thvu]

3salchow was definitely <.

 

[Colonel Green]

She should have enough points from short to keep her up in the podium so she can qualify to finals

She had a six-point short program lead over Pinzarrone. Unless she gets URs, her PCS should keep her in first place even with the null spin.

 

[4rkidz]

Well, Rion wins the free skate TES (and probably the free skate).

Yes I would think so

 

[tony]

Salchow definitely <

Edge issues still with unclear take-off on both Lutz and flip IMO

 

[Rukia]

lol her reaction to seeing the overall win was cute

 

[leilaofpaper]

Did they not call any <?

 

[Amy L]

The coach was not impressed that she still pulled off a win.

 

[Wyliefan]

She pulled it off. It was a bizarre skate, but she has so much fight in her.

 

[AYS]

It looks like she got some sort of spin credit on review. I'm happy for her result, and I think overall the right result here, I'm sure she's pissed though.

 

[airgelaal]

It wasn't a fall?

 

[Lizziebeth]

I think she would get more lift in her jumps without the fug dress. No sleek crow would be seen in that thing!

 

[Primorskaya]

Just manages a win! I'm fine with that, really. Aside from the butt-spin, the mistakes weren't egregious and she had a good lead on Rion and Nina.

 

[skatingguy]

Good to see the emotion in the kiss'n cry from Levito. We can clearly see how much she wants it.

 

[Holy Headband]

"A spellbinding aesthetic on the ice," "rarely has a bad line—only time she looks inelegant is the takeoff for the lutz"... This is where Mark and I strongly disagree. I find Levito's body movement stilted and affected, and clearly designed to ape what people who don't go to the ballet imagine "balletic" to look like. Same story with Valieva and her random donkey kicks, which we were told time and time again were godly extension. Matsuike's exit out of that 2A last week was more elegant than anything I've ever seen from Levito.

 

[Karen-W]

It looks like she got some sort of spin credit on review. I'm happy for her result, and I think overall the right result here, I'm sure she's pissed though.

I agree, it's the right result overall, but that was one weird FS from her. Lots of uncharacteristic errors.

 

[victorskid]

FS results:

1​	Rion SUMIYOSHI	JPN	136.04​	72.78​		63.26​	7.79​	7.86​	8.04​	0.00​	#8​
2​	Nina PINZARRONE	BEL	133.06​	72.69​		60.37​	7.29​	7.64​	7.68​	0.00​	#9​
3​	Isabeau LEVITO	USA	131.39​	65.41​		65.98​	8.43​	8.21​	8.07​	0.00​	#12​
4​	Wakaba HIGUCHI	JPN	129.73​	66.90​		62.83​	7.64​	7.71​	8.18​	0.00​	#7​
5​	Haein LEE	KOR	124.66​	61.92​		62.74​	7.79​	7.75​	7.96​	0.00​	#10​
6​	Lea SERNA	FRA	122.02​	66.91​		55.11​	6.64​	6.86​	7.14​	0.00​	#5​
7​	Anastasiia GUBANOVA	GEO	120.93​	60.48​		60.45​	7.39​	7.68​	7.57​	0.00​	#11​
8​	Lorine SCHILD	FRA	120.31​	67.57​		52.74​	6.50​	6.43​	6.82​	0.00​	#6​
9​	Kimmy REPOND	SUI	113.99​	58.52​		56.47​	6.93​	7.04​	7.18​	1.00​	#3​
10​	Mone CHIBA	JPN	108.17​	52.21​		55.96​	7.07​	6.93​	6.96​	0.00​	#4​
11​	Maia MAZZARA	FRA	92.41​	47.68​		46.73​	5.71​	5.86​	5.93​	2.00​	#2​
12​	Janna JYRKINEN	FIN	86.35​	44.69​		43.66​	5.46​	5.25​	5.64​	2.00​	#1​

Overall results:

1	Isabeau LEVITO	USA	203.22	1	3
2	Nina PINZARRONE	BEL	198.80	4	2
3	Rion SUMIYOSHI	JPN	197.76	5	1
4	Haein LEE	KOR	190.96	3	5
5	Wakaba HIGUCHI	JPN	190.02	6	4
6	Anastasiia GUBANOVA	GEO	187.66	2	7
7	Lea SERNA	FRA	180.77	8	6
8	Lorine SCHILD	FRA	179.11	7	8
9	Mone CHIBA	JPN	164.76	9	10
10	Kimmy REPOND	SUI	164.63	10	9
11	Maia MAZZARA	FRA	137.44	11	11
12	Janna JYRKINEN	FIN	125.92	12	12

Protoscols link: http://www.isuresults.com/results/s...------FNL-000100--_JudgesDetailsperSkater.pdf

 

[zigzig]

Hm, Nina was grossly overscored - OK with Isabeau being in first overall but she got some pretty generous calling too.

Rion definitely robbed here.

Good solid judging to start but started to fall apart by group 2.

 

[Sally1214]

How do you spell RELIEF? Well, it wasn't the skate I wanted from Isabeau (thank goodness for the sp) but I absolutely LOVE this podium. Congrats to all. The ladies really brought it today. What a GREAT start to the final day of competition.

 

[rfisher]

The coach was not impressed that she still pulled off a win.

I wouldn't be either. TBH, she'd have been better served in the long run to have come in 2nd. What she can learn from this is the importance of the SP.

 

[skatingguy]

Mark saying something I noticed at skam in that Isabeau has very soft jump landings.

Yes, but to me when you slow down as much as Levito does that makes soft landings easier to achieve because you don't have the same amount of force when you land.

 

[tony]

Final spin no points, 3S< for Levito

No edge calls anywhere to be found for Higuchi

 

[leilaofpaper]

Looking at judges scores - no points for that final spin and Salchow called <

 

[Rukia]

Yes, but to me when you slow down as much as Levito does that makes soft landings easier to achieve because you don't have the same amount of force when you land.

Yes, but she has the same landings for jumps like the 2a where she doesn't really slow down going into it. It's probably a combination of things, because really her technique is beautiful outside of the jump entries and that will help with her landings.

 

[viennese]

this is how you get more people watching skating isu

other ideas include reality shows about how to get passports for other countries and skaters secret sm accounts where they post what they really think

re: Frozen Passports

Oooooh can I be in it? I worked (as a very lowly assistant) at an international law firm, working on I-9 and O-1 visa applications.
I could scurry about in the background or drop a sheaf of papers when something dramatic happens.

 

[Andrey aka Pushkin]

Levito got very lucky, I'd say.
But then again, no one really needed Pinzzarone to win.

 

[Rukia]

re: Frozen Passports

Oooooh can I be in it? I worked (as a very lowly assistant) at an international law firm, working on I-9 and O-1 visa applications.
I could scurry about in the background or drop a sheaf of papers when something dramatic happens.

yessssss someone call the isu we have ideas

 

[tony]

Yes, but to me when you slow down as much as Levito does that makes soft landings easier to achieve because you don't have the same amount of force when you land.

Yes, but she has the same landings for jumps like the 2a where she doesn't really slow down going into it. It's probably a combination of things, because really her technique is beautiful outside of the jump entries and that will help with her landings.

From personal experience, it's actually very, very difficult to land a jump with any kind of 'nice' and smooth landing when you have zero speed going into it like Isabeau does, especially when she goes way down with her upper body to generate the ability to rotate.

Most others in the same conditions would likely come down with a loud thud and swing their leg around awkwardly (see Thorngren's Lutz, actually).

 

[Rukia]

From personal experience, it's actually very, very difficult to land a jump with any kind of 'nice' and smooth landing when you have zero speed going into it like Isabeau does, especially when she goes way down with her upper body to generate the ability to rotate.

Most others in the same conditions would likely come down with a loud thud and swing their leg around awkwardly.

I have never gone into or come out of a jump with any kind of speed or grace so I really wouldn't know but whatever ice dance is more fun ok

 

[airgelaal]

From personal experience, it's actually very, very difficult to land a jump with any kind of 'nice' and smooth landing when you have zero speed going into it like Isabeau does, especially when she goes way down with her upper body to generate the ability to rotate.

Most others in the same conditions would likely come down with a loud thud and swing their leg around awkwardly (see Thorngren's Lutz, actually).

I think her landings are the best for her technique. But with terrible technique, even the best landings will be so-so.

 

[topaz]

Miss Nina is quite lovely.

Happy for Wakaba.

Poor Isabeau, I thought she may have been injured.