Golden Spin judge gets 6-month suspension

[overedge]

Geez, what's next? Double secret probation?

$peedy = Dean Wormer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tfK_3XK4CI

 

[Rock2]

How could that happen? Who would be responsible for identifying elements where all or morst of the panel scored too high or too low on GOEs.

Who defines "too high"?

Other sports have central bodies of paid professionals who assess the work of officials in the field. Skating would need something of the same.
You can implement a system of warnings/discipine/penalties but I don't want to start suggesting specifics because the conversation would digress into critiquing my suggestions, thus losing site of the core objective - to have the sport self-regulate.

As a real example, a few years ago some kind of memo went out over the summer from the ISU, reminding judges to take GoE deductions where singles skaters did not have connecting steps in the solo triple in the short. Curious what happens to those who haven't been complying. My guess is nothing, given how outright cheating only gives you a few months of vacation and you're right back to the Olympics.

If you're going to have a scoring system with this much thought and detail, honor it. And make sure it's applied with integrity. It's only fair to the athletes and fans.

 

[gkelly]

Other sports have central bodies of paid professionals who assess the work of officials in the field.

Are these sports that also pay their officials, because they have more income in general?

The ISU does have an assessment commission that assesses the work of officials in the field, but they're not paid professionals. Their travel expenses etc. to attend events all over the world are paid.

As a real example, a few years ago some kind of memo went out over the summer from the ISU, reminding judges to take GoE deductions where singles skaters did not have connecting steps in the solo triple in the short. Curious what happens to those who haven't been complying.

This seems more like the kind of mistake that any judge could make sometimes, especially for an unexpectedly beautiful solo quad or on the other end of the spectrum for a program where the skater changes around which jump they put the combination on if the planned combo landing isn't strong enough for a second jump.

How often would the same judge have to make the same mistake before anything "happens" to them?
Or the same judge making repeated mistakes of different kinds.

 

[Rock2]

How often would the same judge have to make the same mistake before anything "happens" to them?
Or the same judge making repeated mistakes of different kinds.

As I said I'm not here to design the system although I have no doubt it can be done.

My point is if they don't have such a system -- where you can make multiple errors and nothing 'happens' that's a problem. Isn't it?