German Skating News - 2024-25 Season

[Nmsis]

I'm loving the current set of german juniors at the JGP.
The girls are lovely.
Grimm an Savitskiy are .
And Gartung is promising, to say the least.

Lots of hope for Germany's next olympic cycle.

 

[Karen-W]

And Gartung is promising, to say the least.

Lots of hope for Germany's next olympic cycle.

Gartung is senior age-eligible next season and I think that Starostin & Jagoda are probably toast unless they can upgrade their tech content.

 

[Sabine-Yuna]

I'm loving the current set of german juniors at the JGP.
The girls are lovely.
Grimm an Savitskiy are .
And Gartung is promising, to say the least.

Lots of hope for Germany's next olympic cycle.

Agree, but pairs (that used to be the strongest German diszipline) are not promising at all

 

[Frau Muller]

Agree, but pairs (that used to be the strongest German diszipline) are not promising at all

The current World bronze medalists and current Grand Prix champs are not promising?

Hase and Volodin seize Grand Prix Final gold

2023-24 Grand Prix Final: Pairs Minerva Fabienne Hase and Nikita Volodin of Germany seized the 2023-24 Grand Prix Final gold in the Pairs discipline on

www.goldenskate.com

 

[Karen-W]

The current World bronze medalists and current Grand Prix champs are not promising?

Hase and Volodin seize Grand Prix Final gold

2023-24 Grand Prix Final: Pairs Minerva Fabienne Hase and Nikita Volodin of Germany seized the 2023-24 Grand Prix Final gold in the Pairs discipline on

www.goldenskate.com

The discussion is about the junior ranks, not the current seniors. Junior German pairs are NOT promising. The ones old enough for seniors or nearly old enough for seniors are barely able to make the CTES mins for Jr Worlds let alone Euros or Worlds.

 

[Samurina]

The discussion is about the junior ranks, not the current seniors. Junior German pairs are NOT promising. The ones old enough for seniors or nearly old enough for seniors are barely able to make the CTES mins for Jr Worlds let alone Euros or Worlds.

well ok, but you can see the potential. Salatzki / Roesller have capable 3tw, 3 throw, and 3 sbs (they only did 2s sbs in jgp, but have done 3s sbs in the past). They need TIME to put it all together. they are both former single skaters, and i think some training time may have been lost to injury / other reasosns

 

[Frau Muller]

The discussion is about the junior ranks, not the current seniors. Junior German pairs are NOT promising. The ones old enough for seniors or nearly old enough for seniors are barely able to make the CTES mins for Jr Worlds let alone Euros or Worlds.

This is the German Skating News thread and I responded to Sabine-Yuna’s post. I see Hase/Volodin lasting a long time.

 

[sandra_persch]

Agree, but pairs (that used to be the strongest German diszipline) are not promising at all

Anyone know what's up with Löwenherz / Löwenherz? To me they are the "true" junior pair

Looking forward to the newish novice pairs kicking off the season.
Jahnke & Fünfer and Krebs & Trofimov seem to have attended the ISU Novice seminar this summer.

 

[Sabine-Yuna]

This is the German Skating News thread and I responded to Sabine-Yuna’s post. I see Hase/Volodin lasting a long time.

Some misunderstanding I guess.
We were talking about junior pairs and not senior pairs. And I really don't see much potential in the current junior pairs, who by the way would have been seniors if ISU wouldn't have raised the age limit.

 

[Frau Muller]

Some misunderstanding I guess.
We were talking about junior pairs and not senior pairs. And I really don't see much potential in the current junior pairs, who by the way would have been seniors if ISU wouldn't have raised the age limit.

I went to the last post of the thread titled German Skating News. When I open a long-ignored thread I go to the last post to read the latest news. I love Hase/Volodin and couldn’t ignore them…great for German team’s future, regardless of the ages of soloists or dancers on the team. (There’s also Hocke/Kunkle among Srs, although I prefer H/V.)

 

[Karen-W]

I went to the last post of the thread titled German Skating News. When I open a long-ignored thread I go to the last post to read the latest news. I love Hase/Volodin and couldn’t ignore them…great for German team’s future, regardless of the ages of soloists or dancers on the team. (There’s also Hocke/Kunkle among Srs, although I prefer H/V.)

Maybe... Miniki will both be 26 in Milano-Cortina; Annika will be 25 and Robert 26. If either medal, they could very well be done after that - HocKun have already dealt with some pretty serious injury issues plus we know they have limited funding from their fed. If the German fed is lucky then one of those two teams will stick around through 2030, but I wouldn't bank on it.

 

[Frau Muller]

Miniki must be The German Deanna…or German Shen (well into 30s+).

 

[Theatregirl1122]

I went to the last post of the thread titled German Skating News. When I open a long-ignored thread I go to the last post to read the latest news. I love Hase/Volodin and couldn’t ignore them…great for German team’s future, regardless of the ages of soloists or dancers on the team. (There’s also Hocke/Kunkle among Srs, although I prefer H/V.)

It's your choice to post in threads without reading any of the context to see what is being discussed, but you can't then be surprised when you're told that what you say makes no sense in context.

 

[Marta24]

https://www.isuresults.com/bios/isufs00110950.htm

Zanni & Co. have been added as coaches to Darya's and Michail's ISU bio. I haven't seen any official announcement that they made the decision to stay at YGA. After JGP Riga they said that they wanted to try out different schools.

 

[Wyliefan]

Maybe they felt really comfortable there and decided to stay on for now.

Of course social media doesn't tell us everything, but going by her Instagram posts and stories, Darya's having the time of her life hanging out with Maria Kazakova and Mariia Pinchuk. And I imagine Michail doesn't want to get too far from his long-term girlfriend. None of that tells us anything about the actual coaching situation, obviously, but it's possible that after the upheaval, what they need most is somewhere they feel settled and supported.

All that said, I really do hope the actual coaching is good!

 

[Samurina]

Maybe they felt really comfortable there and decided to stay on for now.

Of course social media doesn't tell us everything, but going by her Instagram posts and stories, Darya's having the time of her life hanging out with Maria Kazakova and Mariia Pinchuk. And I imagine Michail doesn't want to get too far from his long-term girlfriend. None of that tells us anything about the actual coaching situation, obviously, but it's possible that after the upheaval, what they need most is somewhere they feel settled and supported.

All that said, I really do hope the actual coaching is good!

who is kazakova skating with btw

 

[Wyliefan]

No idea, sorry.

 

[coralline]

who is kazakova skating with btw

Vladislav Kasinskii.

 

[coralline]

Maybe they felt really comfortable there and decided to stay on for now.

Of course social media doesn't tell us everything, but going by her Instagram posts and stories, Darya's having the time of her life hanging out with Maria Kazakova and Mariia Pinchuk. And I imagine Michail doesn't want to get too far from his long-term girlfriend. None of that tells us anything about the actual coaching situation, obviously, but it's possible that after the upheaval, what they need most is somewhere they feel settled and supported.

All that said, I really do hope the actual coaching is good!

YGA looks like a good choice for them. Best wishes to them in Turkey.

 

[Wyliefan]

New costumes for Grimm/Savitskiy, I think. They don't look like practice outfits. But I don't know whether they're for the RD or FD.

Mao Yanzheng on Instagram: "Some moments from ice dance captured during official practice session of the 2024 JGP Ankara in Turkey. #FigureSkating #JGPFigure #JGPAnkara"

291 likes, 0 comments - maoyanzheng on September 18, 2024: "Some moments from ice dance captured during official practice session of the 2024 JGP Ankara in Turkey. #FigureSkating #JGPFigure #JGPAnkara".

www.instagram.com

 

[Marta24]

New costumes for Grimm/Savitskiy, I think. They don't look like practice outfits. But I don't know whether they're for the RD or FD.

Mao Yanzheng on Instagram: "Some moments from ice dance captured during official practice session of the 2024 JGP Ankara in Turkey. #FigureSkating #JGPFigure #JGPAnkara"

291 likes, 0 comments - maoyanzheng on September 18, 2024: "Some moments from ice dance captured during official practice session of the 2024 JGP Ankara in Turkey. #FigureSkating #JGPFigure #JGPAnkara".

www.instagram.com

I think they are for their FD. In Riga, they were wearing old costumes from the 2021/22 season. Here is also a pic of them doing their choreo hydroblading movement:

https://www.instagram.com/p/DADupOhox3X/?igsh=MXZqeG9id3FpemdpdA==

 

[text_skate]

pre-comp reporting (healine is a bit off)

Eiskunstlauf: Hase/Volodin mit Fragezeichen zur Nebelhorn Trophy

Minerva Hase und Nikita Volodin sind das Aushängeschild im deutschen Eiskunstlauf. Zur traditionellen Nebelhorn Trophy in Oberstdorf diese Woche reisen die WM-Dritten aber mit einigen Fragezeichen.

www.sportschau.de

The pair, who train at the centre in Berlin, will be competing with a new choreography to Vivaldi's ‘Four Seasons’. ‘First and foremost, Nikita and I want to focus on ourselves and present our two new programmes in the best possible way,’ says Hase with a view to the competitions. They have been working intensively on the choreography in recent weeks. ‘At the same time, of course, we went through the full runs to gain confidence and fitness in the programmes,’ the 25-year-old continues.

Fitness definitely plays a role in Oberstdorf. The market town lies at an altitude of around 800 metres, so the oxygen conditions are different to those in the training centre in Berlin. Nevertheless, Hase and Volodin are convinced that they have the necessary stamina. ‘I would say we are well prepared physically,’ says Hase. At the same time, both want to enjoy the performance in front of the German fans.

Quote from RosSchu

"We hope to get off to a good start and gain new energy and motivation for the season," says Roscher. "We're not quite where we want to be in our preparations yet. We will improve our elements as the season progresses.

Starostin:

"I'm happy to say that I've learnt the quadruple Salchow and successfully landed it in training."

We will watch

 

[Marta24]

Looks like Grimm/Savitskiy also have new RD costumes:

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Those are the Taschlers' costumes from their Latin RD

 

[Marta24]

Congrats to Grimm/Savitskiy winning JGP Ankara

Here is their winner interview: https://youtu.be/cNXsUm3KHTI?si=VnVGQ6fGqGlL4qak

 

[Frau Muller]

Congrats to Grimm/Savitskiy winning JGP Ankara

Here is their winner interview: https://youtu.be/cNXsUm3KHTI?si=VnVGQ6fGqGlL4qak

Their smiles say it all! Glad to hear that they’re considering competing as seniors later this season.

 

[SkateFanBerlin]

Does anyone know if Kai Jagoda is still skating?

 

[sus2850]

Does anyone know if Kai Jagoda is still skating?

He was at the monitoring in August.

 

[Ka3sha]

Interview with Genrikh Gartung (in Russian)

The idea was mine. I have German roots; my aunt moved to Germany 20 years ago, and I used to visit her every summer during my childhood.

So I started thinking about the country's change long before the Russian ban, and in my situation, a German passport seems like the most logical option. But my dad always told me, 'You can't go empty-handed; first, learn the difficult jumps, otherwise, why would anyone want you there,'

He may qualify for an expedited citizenship process due to his German roots. The Gartungs are from Nizhny Tagil, and the family with a German surname ended up in the Urals, of course, not by chance:

'My grandfather was from the Volga Germans. After the Great Patriotic War, he returned home, but by then, the repression against all Germans was in full swing – they were considered unreliable. My grandfather miraculously wasn’t shot; later, his sentence was commuted, and he was sent to labor camps in the northern Urals.
There he met my grandmother, who was also German – from the noble Kufer family in St. Petersburg. Her father, my great-grandfather, was shot in 1937. My grandmother was saved by relatives who took her into their family. During the war, she was evacuated along the 'Road of Life' from besieged Leningrad to the Urals – she was emaciated and barely alive. They met in Krasnoturyinsk, in the north of the Sverdlovsk region, and my father was born beyond the Urals. That’s where our German roots come from - his father Arthur Gartung adds

 

[text_skate]

Interview with Hase / Volodin: "People now expect a lot more from us"

Hase/Volodin: "Die Leute erwarten jetzt viel mehr von uns"

Die Berliner Eiskunstläufer Minerva Hase und Nikita Volodin sind mit einem Ausrufezeichen in ihre zweite gemeinsame Saison gestartet. Im Interview sprechen die beiden über ihr neues Programm, große Ziele und einen Einbürgerungstest.

www.rbb24.de

Excerpts:

Ms. Hase, Mr. Volodin, you've had a perfect start to the new season: you won the Nebelhorn Trophy with a new personal best score. Would you have expected that after the long summer?
Minerva Hase: No. We knew that we were well prepared and did everything possible from training. But we were delighted that we were actually able to pull it off. Especially because we also beat the Canadian world champion pair Deanna Stellato-Dudek and Maxime Deschamps.

Where does the strong early form come from?
Minerva Hase: We had a longer preparation period this year and met much earlier. This gave us two to three months to build up step by step. We're also now skating together for the second season. That naturally improves the way we work together.

Nikita Volodin: It was a very complex and long preparation with many different building blocks. But the plan worked out.
...
You have rehearsed two new programs during this time. How are they actually developed?
Minerva Hase: The team does it together. So we as skaters together with the choreographers [= Paul Boll, Mark Pillay]. We have a Canadian and a German choreographer who have worked with us on both programs. Our coaches then help to determine the order of the elements. They look at which elements are more difficult and therefore belong at the beginning and which are easier and therefore come at the end.

The result is a choreography to Vivaldi's “Four Seasons”. What makes it special?
Nikita Volodin: It's classical and has a lot of ballet elements, which suits me very well. I had a lot of ballet training and the arm movements are therefore very natural for me. For Minerva, it's the first time she's skated to such classical music. But I think it suits her very well.

Minerva Hase: It's a beautiful classic, of course. But it was important for us to reinterpret it and show that you can give classics a modern twist and that it doesn't always have to be just violin music. We found a few beautiful pieces that are a bit more dramatic than Vivaldi's original.
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Your debut year was already very successful: you won bronze at the World Championships. Now it's your second season together. Does that change anything?
Minerva Hase: We're definitely going into the competitions as favorites. People know us now and expect a lot more from us. They expect us to build on last season's performance and become even better. There are a lot of expectations from outside. We didn't have that last year, when we were the new pair of beginners. So the pressure at the competitions is different. We have to learn to deal with that.
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What is the big goal for this season?
Minerva Hase: At the World Championships in March, we'll be competing for the Olympic quota places for Germany. Together with the other German pair, the big goal is to get these starting places. That's the main focus this season. The podium places are very nice and a good add-on. But the quota places are the most important thing.
...

I love Minerva's costume for Vivaldi, and I saw the skate at NHT live

 

[sus2850]

Wanted to add about Kai Jagoda: I was browsing through his instagram. He posted about an ankle or other foot injury and beimg on crutches on March 15. On Aufust 11 he posted: „good to be back on ice“ and „the time will come“.