From Russia with Love [#30]: If There Are Test Skate Videos, It Must Be Fall 2018

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Interesting.... Mikhailova's stats show main coach to be "Evgeniy Plushenko"... ha..
http://www.fskate.ru/skaters/2736.html
Михайлова Валерия Сергеевна
сборная России 2018/19
Дата рождения: 14 февраля 2002 года (Москва)
Рост: 168см
Клуб: Академия ФК «Ангелы Плющенко» (Москва)

Тренер: Евгений Плющенко, Александр Волков

Is this her actual page? Interesting..She left the academy.
Plushy is the main coach because he is the owner. The admin of the AoP's Insta writes "our main coach" she used this term. 7-8 coaches are working there .There are 60 little pupils plus the olders.

the fskate.ru is not exact..look at Kovalyev's page http://www.fskate.ru/skaters/3255.html
 
Interesting.... Mikhailova's stats show main coach to be "Evgeniy Plushenko"... ha..
http://www.fskate.ru/skaters/2736.html
Михайлова Валерия Сергеевна
сборная России 2018/19
Дата рождения: 14 февраля 2002 года (Москва)
Рост: 168см
Клуб: Академия ФК «Ангелы Плющенко» (Москва)

Тренер: Евгений Плющенко, Александр Волков
It is not updated yet. Lots of junior pairs are there still with their partners from the past season, Ustimkina still has her coach Sokolov, Astakhova is still listed skating with Rogonov...
 
I noticed that Artem Kovalev just made the senior cut off date for this season, so he's competing senior at Ice Star Minsk next month (but it's not part of the Challenger Series this season)
 
Few videos:
Daniil's new kitten is watching Alina's "Carmen" and chasing her on the screen while she skates:
https://scontent-arn2-1.cdninstagra...78_2163654237288761_7819216557707362304_n.mp4

Nastya (Anastasia) Tarakanova has a new gift, a dogie @ 2:35
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_12D2pLSkEc

If you're a fan of Tarakanova, please visit her youtube blog (even if it is in Russian), she appreciates subscribers and she is terribly cute: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVqx0he5ics0JW67ZHuYgfg
 
Alina Ustimkina, who just turned 18 this month, seems to be dating Nodari Maisuradze (30) who is helping to coach U/R, according to a recent interview with Rogonov. I'm sure it will work out brilliantly...:slinkaway

https://www.instagram.com/p/BoLvmNnAy9g/?taken-by=alina.ustimkina
Oh no. Between this and the rumors about Ksenia and Nikolai Morozov, I’m honestly terrified.

I am a bit worried about Maisuradze’s expectations of female pair skater’s weight. If he is co-coaching Ustimkina/Rogonov, he will be strongly motivated to get them results (not only because Alina is his girlfriend, but also to build his reputation as a coach). Alina is quite tall for a pair skater, so I hope they won’t try to compensate for this by making her be as light as possible. I wouldn’t probably worry if it was someone else than Maisuradze, but he does have history of skating partners with eating disorders. One can blame Pavlova for that, but where was he when Pavlova was emotionally abusing his partners? What did he do to protect Iliuschetchkina and Antipova?

This whole idea scares me. As a huge Lubov Ilyushechkina fan, I can’t stand for anything involving Pavlova or Nodari. Watching someone be mistreated and doing nothing is as bad as inflicting the mistreatment IMO.

ITA...2 partners almost died under his watch while he preened under Pavlova's adoration.....So.....could anybody be so stupid as to not wise up and completely do a self makeover? We shall see I guess. Hopefully he take the approach of Rogonov spending a lot of time in the gym instead of making the girls disappear.

Let’s hope. Let’s really hope.
 
Few videos:
Daniil's new kitten is watching Alina's "Carmen" and chasing her on the screen while she skates:
https://scontent-arn2-1.cdninstagra...78_2163654237288761_7819216557707362304_n.mp4

Nastya (Anastasia) Tarakanova has a new gift, a dogie @ 2:35
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_12D2pLSkEc

If you're a fan of Tarakanova, please visit her youtube blog (even if it is in Russian), she appreciates subscribers and she is terribly cute: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVqx0he5ics0JW67ZHuYgfg

Alina was amazing at the Nebelhorn Trophy! Congrats to her new WR scores! This was her first competition she must work some elements but she is strong, and showed a beautiful Carmen! And congrats to Daniil, too. I really like the Carmen choreography! I hate the SP's music cut!!!
 
Both Zagitova and Medvedeva have done one competition each. At the moment Zagitova is winning over Medvedeva 1:0. Zagitova showed that she is prepared, Medvedeva is practising her second place finish. But at least she seems happy about it.
 
You know I honestly believe their former coaches would have given P/M much better programs, but I don't know what can be done to remedy their technical issues.

BTW, does anyone know how Z/G are doing? Will we get to see them anytime soon?
 
Oh no. Between this and the rumors about Ksenia and Nikolai Morozov, I’m honestly terrified.



This whole idea scares me. As a huge Lubov Ilyushechkina fan, I can’t stand for anything involving Pavlova or Nodari. Watching someone be mistreated and doing nothing is as bad as inflicting the mistreatment IMO.

I would like to give him the benefit of the doubt and hope that maybe he learned something since then, at least until there is evidence otherwise. I want to believe Rogonov is better than that, too. The whole young girl dating older coach thing always will bother me, though.

As for Ksenia, I don't know what the story is there. She can do much better but I'm not "terrified" if they are dating...she's an adult, at least.
 
My theory is Zag wants a world title to make her collection complete. Then she'll retire and go do whatever she wants. The odds of Zagitova or Medvedeva being on the Russian team in 2020 are small given the current 13-14-15 year olds who will be competing at that time. I don't spend a lot of time worrying about the future career of the Russian ladies. I just enjoy them today.
 
My theory is Zag wants a world title to make her collection complete. Then she'll retire and go do whatever she wants. The odds of Zagitova or Medvedeva being on the Russian team in 2020 are small given the current 13-14-15 year olds who will be competing at that time. I don't spend a lot of time worrying about the future career of the Russian ladies. I just enjoy them today.
Very realistic... but who knows. If media keeps hyping Zag and Med, Eteri/Orser, and every one "in skating" (TAT, etc.), then the publicity alone may push both girls into staying longer for a challenge..
 
:lol: that's their mad fans' score.... Med and Zag have a whole bunch of other girls to compete against.
They obviously have plenty of skaters to compete against, but for each of them winning over the other one has bigger meaning than beating anyone else. Zagitova is strongly motivated to beat Medvedeva because at this moment she is still loyal to Tutberidze and Tutberidze was hurt by Medvedeva leaving. She would also want to prove to everyone that the Olympics were not just a fluke and that she is better than Medvedeva. Medvedeva should be motivated to show Tutberidze that she can do better without her, because otherwise what would be the point of leaving if she was going to be worse off. It is natural that it would feel really great to beat your excoach’s biggest star.
 
They obviously have plenty of skaters to compete against, but for each of them winning over the other one has bigger meaning than beating anyone else. Zagitova is strongly motivated to beat Medvedeva because at this moment she is still loyal to Tutberidze and Tutberidze was hurt by Medvedeva leaving. Medvedeva should be motivated to show Tutberidze that she can do better without her, because otherwise what would be the point of leaving if she was going to be worse off. It is natural that it would feel really great to beat your excoach’s biggest star.
That's your scenario, by all means.. Based on social media and discussions (in Russian) for both girls and "everyone around", both Zag/Med are MOST OF ALL concerned keeping their last year's shape/form/content and improving. Their biggest issues are "new bodies", for example officially Zagitova grew 7 cm, and Med went up 1 dress size.

It would be great if "fans and followers" left them alone to figure things out and did not cause additional hardship with "invented problems"..
 
That's your scenario, by all means.. Based on social media and discussions (in Russian) for both girls and "everyone around", both Zag/Med are MOST OF ALL concerned keeping their last year's shape/form/content and improving. Their biggest issues are "new bodies", for example officially Zagitova grew 7 cm, and Med went up 1 dress size.

It would be great if "fans and followers" left them alone to figure things out and did not cause additional hardship with "invented problems"..
I am sure that they are most concerned how to keep their close relationship going. In fact, they are so close to each other that they don’t really want to hurt the other one by winning and beating the other one. Actually, it may be the reason why Medvedeva didn’t skate that well at this last competition. The night before she made a short trip by plane to pop in to Russia to have a dinner with Zagitova. :p
 
All of them have a shelf life; Alina will be no exception. Evgenia had a good run even if she doesn't improve this season (which I don't believe will be the case, at all). I'm already bored by this rivalry and the season is going to be long...very long.
 
I'm already bored by this rivalry and the season is going to be long...very long.
:D if you're bored reading english-language sources, then imagine what it is like to read the Russian, Ukrainina, and German-Russian-immigrant chats... :D.

You'd have to read through tons of "yeeeeeeeling" only to find 5-10% about the actual skating. Yag vs. Plush fan rivalry is child's play.. :lol: At least they were both "ethnically Russian".... In case of Zag-Med, it's "Tatars" vs. "Armenias", and some think "they must be part Jewish" because "they're are both too clever in one way or another"....:rofl: :inavoid:

So far, the valid info i found is the simple one. Base values of tech elements for both girls. Zag's is higher.
But the reality is this.... https://pp.userapi.com/c830309/v830309450/1a0fcd/OPqPKbLFFzQ.jpg

I am sending a letter to Japanese FSF, with a proposal to do "Madoka Magika" vs. "Sailor Moon" reality TV.
Because there is NO reason for this "rivalry" to go to waist, commercially.....
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dk24mpKU4AIdvzQ.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/77/a0/08/77a008373f774ffa475c502c890d9e3e.jpg

when it is such a mess, at least everyone should make money..
 
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Lots of Tatars in Russian sports no? Mustafina, Kanaeva, Kabaeva? Mamun is half Pakistan? Didn't know that's an issue in Russia. I've only heard Georgians/Chechnyans don't have great reputation.
I've always thought Zagitova a tremendous athletic talent, Kanaeva level talent. Thought highly of her skills even before she was with Eteri. Medvedeva was consistently ranked the 4th best skater in her first junior year. I liked her the best even then but she has never been as strong as Zagitova jump-wise, not even close. Medvedeva never won a single competition over a senior Zagitova. There was never a Med/Zag rivalry and there won't be one, just like people like to make Trusova/Kostornaya into a rivalry but there is no rivalry. Trusova wins and will win every time.
 
T/M with Trankov say the SP music has been changed.......:eek::cheer2:
Zwei Seiten einer Medaille
http://www.long-program.com/2018/09/30/zwei-seiten-einer-medaille/

Wer hat die Musik fur die Programme ausgewahlt?
Maxim: hier verrate ich Ihnen ein Geheimnis. Wir haben das Kurzprogramm nach dem Testlaufen gewechselt.

- Which one of you selects the music in the programmes?
- I have a Secret for you. We replaced the music in the SP after the Test Skate.

And... to add the drama, the "new music" is the same one Med used in her show number in Japan this summer (choreo Averbukh). Maxim asked Med if she does not mind T/M using that music and she said that since Singles and Pairs don't overlap so it is ok.

Maxim: Jenia Medwedeva hatte eine Shownummer im Sommer zu dieser Musik. Und als sie daran mit Ilya Averbukh gearbeitet hat, habe ich sie angesprochen und sagte, dass wir die Kür zu dieser Musik gestaltet haben. Sie antwortete, es sei kein Problem, ihr seid Paarläufer und ich bin Einzelläuferin und ich mag diese Musik und ich werde sie nehmen.

It's now official in the Russian press too (full change of SP)
https://tass.ru/sport/5624184
 
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I would like to give him the benefit of the doubt and hope that maybe he learned something since then, at least until there is evidence otherwise. I want to believe Rogonov is better than that, too. The whole young girl dating older coach thing always will bother me, though.

As for Ksenia, I don't know what the story is there. She can do much better but I'm not "terrified" if they are dating...she's an adult, at least.

I thought Rogonov was married.
 
I would like to give him the benefit of the doubt and hope that maybe he learned something since then, at least until there is evidence otherwise. I want to believe Rogonov is better than that, too. The whole young girl dating older coach thing always will bother me, though.

As for Ksenia, I don't know what the story is there. She can do much better but I'm not "terrified" if they are dating...she's an adult, at least.

I would think after having weight problems with two partners, you would learn your lesson (Antipova almost died for heaven’s sake) but then again, the old dog might not learn new tricks. We will see. I’m not sure what he is like professionally, but Rogonov has always seemed like a very nice guy. As for young student dating older coach, I’m not a fan of it but it’s happened many times before...sometimes it can work out okay, but rarely.

Until we have more solid proof about Ksenia and Morozov, I can’t comment. I hope to God it’s just an exaggerated story made up for some off-season entertainment, but if it’s a consensual relationship between two adults, there’s nothing we can do about it. It’s really none of my business.

T/M with Trankov say the SP music has been changed.......:eek::cheer2:
Zwei Seiten einer Medaille
http://www.long-program.com/2018/09/30/zwei-seiten-einer-medaille/

Wer hat die Musik fur die Programme ausgewahlt?
Maxim: hier verrate ich Ihnen ein Geheimnis. Wir haben das Kurzprogramm nach dem Testlaufen gewechselt.

- Which one of you selects the music in the programmes?
- I have a Secret for you. We replaced the music in the SP after the Test Skate.

And... to add the drama, the "new music" is the same one Med used in her show number in Japan this summer (choreo Averbukh). Maxim asked Med if she does not mind T/M using that music and she said that since Singles and Pairs don't overlap so it is ok.

Maxim: Jenia Medwedeva hatte eine Shownummer im Sommer zu dieser Musik. Und als sie daran mit Ilya Averbukh gearbeitet hat, habe ich sie angesprochen und sagte, dass wir die Kür zu dieser Musik gestaltet haben. Sie antwortete, es sei kein Problem, ihr seid Paarläufer und ich bin Einzelläuferin und ich mag diese Musik und ich werde sie nehmen.

It's now official in the Russian press too (full change of SP)
https://tass.ru/sport/5624184

I like this idea! I wasn’t a huge fan of the original SP tbh, so I think this might be an improvement.
 
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