Eromolina's interview with Lipnitskaya `The page is turned, I have a new life and new plans'

Japanfan said:
Tinami, you do put on shows here on FSU (a few many like them, many more do not), for free or for the package cost that members choose to pay.

In that respect, you're quite unstoppable. :)
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Oh, I missed out on the fact this is a local clown? Thanks for making this clear!
 
Fairuza said:
Oh, I missed out on the fact this is a local clown? Thanks for making this clear!
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Something along " don't feed the troll " ;)

But I really want Tinami to answer my lastbpost, but it still doesn't happen. Seems like one hits whom one wants. Live and let live!
 
I love Yulia and I don't blame her for anything. But I have some thoughts. I don't think that is Eteri's fault what happened with Yulia.
Yulia's mother is a tipical figure skating mother or even worse. We know them there are that type in ballet, too. They think they are doing everything for their daughter, but that is not true. They are ambitious , they want to their children realize, reach what they couldn't.
Yulia's mother was very strict with Yulia in eating.She was with Yulia all the time as her coach and mother and everything. Yulia missed the medal ceremony three times. Can you tell me other skaters who did it also? In their early ages or whenever? I can't. That is not Yulia's and I believe not Eteri's fault. Probably she wasn't with Yulia in the hotel. Her mother was with her. I hardly believe she also slept.... She doesn't like the other Russian girls and coaches.
And Sochi has brought the succes, the fame, the incredible popularity. And she wanted to more things to her famous daughter. She wanted to the best conditions for Yulia, the best choreographer ( remember the Averbukh story) she would have liked the whole attention of Eteri, and she was a bigger expert as the coaches in figure skating. Can you imagine that atmosphere in the team, in the ice rink? Probably she knew she can do everything, everybody will defend and support the beloved Yulia and will blame the other people around her.
Maybe this is also a speculation but I don't think anything is black or white and we can't judge this story because we weren't there.
 
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lala said:
I love Yulia and I don't blame her for anything. But I have some thoughts. I don't think that is Eteri's fault what happened with Yulia.
Yulia's mother is a tipical figure skating mother or even worse. We know them there are that type in ballet, too. They think they are doing everything for their daughter, but that is don't true. They are ambitious , they want to their children realize, reach what they couldn't.
Yulia's mother was very strict with Yulia in eating.She was with Yulia all the time as her coach and mother and everything. Yulia missed the medal ceremony three times. Can you tell me other skaters who did it also? In their early ages or whenever? I can't. That is not Yulia's and I believe not Eteri's fault. Probably she wasn't with Yulia in the hotel. Her mother was with her. I hardly believe she also slept.... She doesn't like the other Russian girls and coaches.
And Sochi has brought the succes, the fame, the incredible popularity. And she wanted to more things to her famous daughter. She wanted to the best conditions for Yulia, the best choreographer ( remember the Averbukh story) she would have liked the whole attention of Eteri, and she was a bigger expert as the coaches in figure skating. Can you imagine that atmosphere in the team, in the ice rink? Probably she knew she can do everything, everybody will defend and support the beloved Yulia and will blame the other people around her.
Maybe this is also a speculation but I don't think anything is black or white and we can't judge this story because we weren't there.
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That was a great post! We don't know the ins and outs of the whole story, but we all know that the adults in charge of her have failed at some points, seeing her as a horse producing results more than a girl in distress. That is sad. At least she seems to be on the road to mental health.
 
What we do know is that there are top coaches everywhere who've struggled with hyper-involved parents and have walked a stressful line. Brennan wrote about Carlo Fassi bringing a pillow to the table so he could nap before Peggy Fleming's mother's nightly call to deconstruct the day's practices. And he was Carlo Freaking Fassi.

It does make it painful to remember how Lipnitskaia wrote about what her mother gave up for her skating and how much she owed her mother a good, comfortable life.
 
kwanfan1818 said:
It does make it painful to remember how Lipnitskaia wrote about what her mother gave up for her skating and how much she owed her mother a good, comfortable life.
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Of course, as me and probably you, too from our mother :)..

Her life was Yulia, she has no other passion..
 
lala said:
And Sochi has brought the succes, the fame, the incredible popularity. And she wanted to more things to her famous daughter. She wanted to the best conditions for Yulia, the best choreographer ( remember the Averbukh story) she would have liked the whole attention of Eteri, and she was a bigger expert as the coaches in figure skating. Can you imagine that atmosphere in the team, in the ice rink? Probably she knew she can do everything, everybody will defend and support the beloved Yulia and will blame the other people around her.
Maybe this is also a speculation but I don't think anything is black or white and we can't judge this story because we weren't there.
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Good post! Her mother is a piece of work, for sure. She did want "what's best for her daughter", but as they say "road to hell is paved with good intentions". Every immigrant mother i've seen (in USA, from Russia, Asia, Europe) is a "tiger-mom" in many ways; they sacrifice their lives and want what's best for their children.... But it is not WHAT you do, but HOW you do it.... I heard plenty about "the mother" from eye-witnesses whom I trust, and who do not have stakes in this situation (but I understand “eye-witness” is a subjective issue, one can not prove).

Here is more info about Julia’s life:

1) Father’s interview: He wants a DNA Test. He is 100% sure it is his daughter. He did not know she was born. He wants to pay 18 years worth of alimony. He feels it would benefit Julia, and that her mother is intentionally kept Julia away from him. After learning about her life for several years, he feels that the mother brought up Julia too isolated, not-socialized, and pulling Julia out of educational system was not good for her. He wants Julia to get to know him and to learn to think for herself (without mother).
https://www.championat.com/other/ne...oby-dokazat-chto-ja-otec-julii-lipnickoj.html

2) Another father’s interview: “I want to pay for her University Education. She needs education.”
https://russian.rt.com/sport/news/430197-lipnickaya-otec-vuz

3)Auerbuch Interview: “Julia needs to catch up on education, learn to communicate, and with the same drive that she approached skating, she needs to approach her internal/emotional state.”
https://7days.ru/news/ilya-averbukh-prokommentiroval-ukhod-yulii-lipnitskoy.htm#ixzz4slFvgJYa

3) Pavel Zavozin (a journalist from sports.ru) responds to Julia’s accusations that his comment about attending MGU this year are “fake news”. “I don’t know what to say… Either she is not telling something (the whole story), or her plans change. In any case, if she chose to say that, then believe her.”
https://russian.rt.com/sport/news/429272-zanozin-lipnickaya-postuplenie-vuz

4) Re: Julia’s last interview (the original one in this topic): “Julia thanked everyone, except her trainer. The trainer who paved the path to her success did not get a single mention”.
https://dni.ru/sport/2017/9/12/380009.html

I certainly hope her mother gets a clue.. now that the issues of “education” and “social conduct” have been raised. I’d like to see this VK page in few years from now with Julia facing people….. with an MGU diploma and as a Lady (not in a “female” sense, but in terms manners, eloquence and elegance). https://vk.com/julia_lipnitskaya
 
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lala said:
Who is the father? What is his job?
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His name is Vyacheslav Lipnitsky, he has a birth certificate showing his name from birth. Julia's official name is: Julia Viacheslavovna Lipnitskaya.. she has his patronimic name and last name... :lol:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yulia_Lipnitskaya

He lives in Israel, works "in the military". Many say he and Julia do look like father and daughter, as children and as adults.
http://n1s1.starhit.ru/83/5e/0c/835...7@600x338_0xc0a8399a_2890636691504269033.jpeg
https://pp.userapi.com/c636723/u138783539/video/l_8e4b0603.jpg

..... some people don't believe him, and question how his Last Name can be the same as Julia's and Mother's, if they were not married....

Here is some info in Russian.
Recent interview on Channel 1 - talk-show "Man's life - Woman's life"
full version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89oAl52n30A (the beginning is about Julia's career and "few details" about "how her mother is".
short version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZJl-HjvoM0

Hope they just go ahead and do the DNA test and be done with it.... :lol:
 
Tinami Amori said:
His name is Vyacheslav Lipnitsky, he has a birth certificate showing his name from birth. Julia's official name is: Julia Viacheslavovna Lipnitskaya.. she has his patronimic name and last name... :lol:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yulia_Lipnitskaya

He lives in Israel, works "in the military". Many say he and Julia do look like father and daughter, as children and as adults.
http://n1s1.starhit.ru/83/5e/0c/835...7@600x338_0xc0a8399a_2890636691504269033.jpeg
https://pp.userapi.com/c636723/u138783539/video/l_8e4b0603.jpg

..... some people don't believe him, and question how his Last Name can be the same as Julia's and Mother's, if they were not married....

Here is some info in Russian.
Recent interview on Channel 1 - talk-show "Man's life - Woman's life"
full version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89oAl52n30A (the beginning is about Julia's career and "few details" about "how her mother is".
short version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZJl-HjvoM0

Hope they just go ahead and do the DNA test and be done with it.... :lol:
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Thank you. Sigh...I noticed the Russians like this type of TV shows...awful. So many TV presenters make talk shows. Too many. It seems they adore to talk about the other people's personal life and problems. And they have very firm opinions. But good for the TV channels. Very cheap Tv programs:D
 
Tinami Amori said:
His name is Vyacheslav Lipnitsky, he has a birth certificate showing his name from birth. Julia's official name is: Julia Viacheslavovna Lipnitskaya.. she has his patronimic name and last name... :lol:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yulia_Lipnitskaya

He lives in Israel, works "in the military". Many say he and Julia do look like father and daughter, as children and as adults.
http://n1s1.starhit.ru/83/5e/0c/835...7@600x338_0xc0a8399a_2890636691504269033.jpeg
https://pp.userapi.com/c636723/u138783539/video/l_8e4b0603.jpg

..... some people don't believe him, and question how his Last Name can be the same as Julia's and Mother's, if they were not married....

Here is some info in Russian.
Recent interview on Channel 1 - talk-show "Man's life - Woman's life"
full version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89oAl52n30A (the beginning is about Julia's career and "few details" about "how her mother is".
short version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZJl-HjvoM0

Hope they just go ahead and do the DNA test and be done with it.... :lol:
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For years it has been stated that Yulia's father knew about his daughter, left and simply never came back, which is why Yulia shares her mother's name. That guy (in the first "interview" he gave), said that he never knew he had a child! He just saw at the Olympics and thought "This MUST my daughter"! I don't think he is "lying", it was obvious watching him that he is not stable, it's possible that he believes himself. He saw a random girl, whose father's name he shares, and decided it was his daughter.

How can you believe anyone who practically says "I thought I didn't have children, but I saw that one and felt like she is mine"?
There's absolutely NO REASON for a DNA test, Yulia and her mother don't owe anyone, let alone a crook who exploits her name, anything.

["Hope they just go ahead and do the DNA test and be done with it.... "]
They ARE done with it. Daniela KNOWS who Yulia's father is, Yulia knows as well. If you want a DNA that badly just to satisfy your curiousity, go ahead and tell Yulia that.
 
lala said:
Who is the father? What is his job?
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The guy appearing on TV is not her father, he is a former soldier. Yulia said he knows her father and it's not him. All that is known is that her father left her mother when she was pregnant
 
Just to quote Yulia again:
"There is a person going from one TV show to the other who dares calling himself my father. A question: how do the editors allow it? This person is a fake. Even if he has the same last name don't jump to conclusions. This person is not related to me. What he said about me - I wanted to silence him physically. It's impossible to listen! As for my real father I know fully well who is it and where he lives. So let me warn you: if those cases will continue and my `fathers' or `relatives' will pop up in the TV shows with the will to get some fame on my account we'lll meet in the court. "
 
K-M said:
Just to quote Yulia again:
"There is a person going from one TV show to the other who dares calling himself my father. A question: how do the editors allow it? This person is a fake. Even if he has the same last name don't jump to conclusions. This person is not related to me. What he said about me - I wanted to silence him physically. It's impossible to listen! As for my real father I know fully well who is it and where he lives. So let me warn you: if those cases will continue and my `fathers' or `relatives' will pop up in the TV shows with the will to get some fame on my account we'lll meet in the court. "
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He says, She says.... He has his reasons and truth, she has hers...

I like mysteries, puzzles, and information challenges… to some degree…… :lol:
Since this issue has been hot news in Russia, in the press, on TV, etc., no harm in chatting about it. I am not convinced that he is her father, but there is enough information to at least consider the possibility.

There are 3 separate issues, and no need to mix them.
Is he her biological father?
- They have same last name, AND her 2nd name (patronymic name) is also same as his first name.
- He has a birth certificate showing his name from birth. That’s quite a circumstance.
- He matches in age, and he was recognized by Julia’s former neighbor.
- They do look similar on the fotos, although it may not mean much, but still.
- He is offering to pay missed child support (which is now few hundred thousands), for her college education, and earlier offered to buy her a car.

Is he telling the truth about not knowing of her birth, or did he simply left Julia’s mother?
- That is between them, and quite irrelevant to his biological connection to her.

If he is the father, and even if he did not abandon them, do Julia and Mother want anything to do with him?
- That’s their business. Julia and her Mother have a perfect right not to deal with him regardless of past history and biology.

Julia/Mother saying he is an impostor. He is saying he’s the father. It’s only words of people. People lie, or have reasons not to tell the whole truth…. DNA would solve it.
 
Which means that Julia should give in to our dear troll's wish to know further secrets about her life.

Lovely, there's someone bringing the lowest of the lowest Russian television has fallen to - the country obviously has no other problems apart from discussing whether or not a man contributed a whole spermatozoa into Julia's life. lo and behold everyone - that's the national television, not some crappy commercial channel.
It's curious to see someone watches this avidly and collects all that trash. Get a life, ffs.
 
The soap opera is apparently going to be reported to you, dear audience - I wouldn't mind it that much if it didn't involve a girl who deserves peace and quiet. I do hope Julia just ignores all that fuss - it's going to die out, the crappy television will find some other victims to talk about.
 
The thing is, even if they were genetically related, he wasn't present in her life for her whole life. If they share their DNA, as far as she is concerned, he wouldn't be more than a sperm donor. It is not enough to share a name or be a father on a paper. One needs to earn the label of father.
 
hanca said:
The thing is, even if they were genetically related, he wasn't present in her life for her whole life. If they share their DNA, as far as she is concerned, he wouldn't be more than a sperm donor. It is not enough to share a name or be a father on a paper. One needs to earn the label of father.
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You're absolutely right! that's why i said "If he is the father, and even if he did not abandon them, do Julia and Mother want anything to do with him?
- That’s their business. Julia and her Mother have a perfect right not to deal with him regardless of past history and biology."
 
Tinami Amori said:
You're absolutely right! that's why i said "If he is the father, and even if he did not abandon them, do Julia and Mother want anything to do with him?
- That’s their business. Julia and her Mother have a perfect right not to deal with him regardless of past history and biology."
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I am glad you realise that. So why on earth would she want to have DNA test? She made it clear that he is nothing to her, so related or non related, he is nothing. Why do you struggle to accept her wishes?
 
hanca said:
I am glad you realise that. So why on earth would she want to have DNA test? She made it clear that he is nothing to her, so related or non related, he is nothing. Why do you struggle to accept her wishes?
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I never "not realized it". DNA/biology is a separate issue from "having a relationship".

There is no struggle to accept her wishes, as none of us has ANY mechanism to affect the situation.

Weather we accept or not is irrelevant! we are just talking about the news..... and having opinions....... :lol:... not dragging her to the lab.
 
hanca said:
The thing is, even if they were genetically related, he wasn't present in her life for her whole life. If they share their DNA, as far as she is concerned, he wouldn't be more than a sperm donor. It is not enough to share a name or be a father on a paper. One needs to earn the label of father.
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This is true. But these wouldn't be his fault. It would show Daniela's fake words and life.
 
What confuses me the most is why anyone finds need to involve themselves into her personal affairs like her relationship with her father. What does that have anything to do with figure skating fans?

The girl skated her Ass off for several years and now her personal life is our business? I don't understand our place in any of this? What's the point?
 
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lala said:
This is true. But these wouldn't be his fault. It would show Daniela's fake words and life.
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Excuse me? Why does anything revealed by that man make Daniela 'fake'? What she does with her personal life is her own business, not that yours or ours - who are you to judge her?
Another lover of sleazy stories?
 
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