Coronation of King Charles III

[Karen-W]

I wonder if that is the Monteverdi Choir. Their sound was amazing yesterday. And I was glad to see some girls in the other male dominated choirs.

It's a combined choir - made up of choirs from around the UK, not just a single choir.

Here's my problem: I think there is a major star in the family and it is Kate. She seems to revel in the lifestyle and duties of a royal and she is good at it---maybe even has a gift for it. William could not have proposed to a better partner given what is ahead of them imho. And now I think she is the perfect age--seasoned---but still a lot of youthful energy. Queen Camilla or Queen Catherine? This isn't close. And you can talk about Charles and William but she is who the world watches.

It's also taken Kate a dozen years to get to the level she's now at. She was quite shy and stiff in her early years as Duchess of Cambridge. She's certainly come into her own and is fantastic now, but she also does the least amount of engagements of all the senior royals (Charles, Camilla, Anne, the Wales' & the Edinburghs) because she has 3 school-age children. I do hope it's at least another 10-15 years before William becomes King, just so they can continue to be the hands-on, involved parents they are to their three wonderful kids.

 

[becca]

Hmm, I have the opposite perspective. Part of why I find the monarchy tolerable is the idea of an older and wiser statesperson to advise, encourage, and warn. Nothing against William, who is likeable, but he is younger than I am (and half the population) and doesn’t yet seem to have the wisdom or life experience of a typical monarch. (Or at least my image is a typical monarch, which is obviously skewed by my age/lifetime). I can imagine King Charles giving meaningful advice to Rishi Sunak. I’m not sure William is at that level yet.

I also like that we don’t have to worry about a child monarch, which is truly preposterous, should the worst happen. Especially in this digital age, I cannot imagine what a child monarch would face. Or even a child next of kin. Being an extra step away from the throne will hopefully afford them a little more peace.

Long story short, maybe it’s not a bad thing to have the norm become monarchs ascending in their 60s and 70s.

Typically child monarchs don’t rule…. They have regents. So the face would be the regent till the King or Queen becomes of age.

Queen Elizabeth was a fairly young Queen.

Typically Regent is based on Line of succession. Historically some time a parent.

Harry is next in line for regent if Charles and William are gone but since he is living in California may be disqualified. Then it’s Andrew.

I Suspect if a tragedy happened laws would change and Either Edward, Anne or Kate would be regent.

(Not the end of the world)

 

[millyskate]

Charlotte looked wonderful and as always so composed. I only watched a few minutes of it all as I was busy but today we went to a lovely coronation community lunch with sun, fun and games.
Baby milly was given a flag and loved waving it.

 

[Ananas Astra]

The Greek royal family was a scion of the Danish royal family. There was definitely inter-marriage with the other European royal families though, so it's all a bit of a mix (much like the British Royal Family...).

Just found this on Youtube: How inbred was Queen Elizabeth II?
Not quite on the Habsburg level, but...

 

[Karen-W]

Typically child monarchs don’t rule…. They have regents. So the face would be the regent till the King or Queen becomes of age.

Queen Elizabeth was a fairly young Queen.

Typically Regent is based on Line of succession. Historically some time a parent.

Harry is next in line for regent if Charles and William are gone but since he is living in California may be disqualified. Then it’s Andrew.

I Suspect if a tragedy happened laws would change and Either Edward, Anne or Kate would be regent.

(Not the end of the world)

Prince Philip would have been Regent had Elizabeth passed away before Charles turned 18, so I think it's all but certain that Kate would be named Regent should George become king in the next 8 years.

 

[liv]

Queen Elizabeth certainly didn't start out wise. She acknowledged how very lucky she was to have Winston Churchill guide her in her first steps as Queen, and one can't overlook her own formidable mother being there too. She grew into her role and became the hugely respected figure she was... keeping out of politics, but making her wishes sometimes known in ways open to interpretation... nothing ever overt. That skill, plus her humor and charm made her so admired and made her role so unique. You could be at odds with the British government, but the Queen was the Queen and everyone wanted to meet her. She wasn't faultless by any means, but sometimes just listening, showing up to lend an ear, flying the flag or being a calm and steady presence were what was needed.

How Charles forms his own version of monarch is still to come, but from all accounts he is thoughtful and knowledgeable and feels deeply about many things. He can't be what she was.

As for William, yes, he was emotional at the coronation. It was history, but his future. Unlike Charles, his wait will not be 'that' long, 20 years or so if genes run true... I was thinking how regal he and Kate looked, because of height and age, but he would not want this now. His children are young and need his attention. I imagine he would never believe himself ready, after watching his grandmother master the job.

I think this job, in particular, is what you make it.

 

[Kruss]

I got up at 3:00 am and was at my sister's house by 4:00 am so we could watch together. There may not have been tiaras worn in the Abbey, but for fun, we had ours on. I found an inexpensive one that had a nod to the Girls of Great Britain and Ireland tiara which is probably my favorite.

 

[Judy]

It’s going to take me a long time to get used to the balcony photo. Yes I know Camilla’s family is there. Still.

 

[once_upon]

It’s going to take me a long time to get used to the balcony photo. Yes I know Camilla’s family is there. Still.

Are they working Royals? I thought that was the criteria?

 

[BaileyCatts]

PBS cut off the concert at 5. There was a choir just started. What they singing?? Can't believe they cut it off. No time to get it up online

 

[Parsley Sage]

It’s going to take me a long time to get used to the balcony photo. Yes I know Camilla’s family is there. Still.

The only members of Camilla's family that were on the balcony were her grandsons and great nephew that were her pages and her sister who was one of her attendants. Her children and grand daughters weren't on the balcony.

 

[Frau Muller]

I wonder if that is the Monteverdi Choir. Their sound was amazing yesterday. And I was glad to see some girls in the other male dominated choirs.

It was a one-time special chorus. They did great, including the lovely female soloist at the start.

 

[Frau Muller]

PBS cut off the concert at 5. There was a choir just started. What they singing?? Can't believe they cut it off. No time to get it up online

Ours kept it up until 5:05pm, when it all ended. It was a continuation of the final group, Take That.

The 300-voice chorus sang early.

 

[BaileyCatts]

Mine cut off after the castle was lit up and then I saw som people in white robes like choir robes then it cut off. So I guess I missed the finale?

 

[Karen-W]

Mine cut off after the castle was lit up and then I saw som people in white robes like choir robes then it cut off. So I guess I missed the finale?

Yes, you did then, which is a shame. My PBS station carried over into the 2pm hour for the end of the concert.

It really was a marvelous show and very enjoyable for an early Sunday afternoon here.

 

[Simone411]

It's a combined choir - made up of choirs from around the UK, not just a single choir.

It's also taken Kate a dozen years to get to the level she's now at. She was quite shy and stiff in her early years as Duchess of Cambridge. She's certainly come into her own and is fantastic now, but she also does the least amount of engagements of all the senior royals (Charles, Camilla, Anne, the Wales' & the Edinburghs) because she has 3 school-age children. I do hope it's at least another 10-15 years before William becomes King, just so they can continue to be the hands-on, involved parents they are to their three wonderful kids.

I don't know about it taking a dozen years to get to the level she's at now because I was in the ICU at LSU Shreveport in April of 2011, and my room was the only room close to the nurses station that had a TV. I do know that all the nurses, some of the doctors, etc. would come to my room to watch the wedding.

Everyone was excited about it including me even though I was still hallucinating, and it had been a few days since I was brought out of the coma. I was so looking forward to watching, and the station it was on kept playing a J.G. Wentworth commercial over and over. At one point I started yelling for one the nurses to come get JG. Wentworth and friends out of my room because they couldn't sing worth a damn. Yes, J.G. Wentworth and friends had jumped out of the TV and was in my room. They must have had me on some really good meds!

Other than having that ordeal, I really enjoyed watching the wedding. I also enjoyed the watching Coronation concert because, to me, it brought the world together in peace even if it was only for a few hours. So I say Kudos to the concert and was thankful I had a way to watch it.

 

[airgelaal]

The only members of Camilla's family that were on the balcony were her grandsons and great nephew that were her pages and her sister who was one of her attendants. Her children and grand daughters weren't on the balcony.

Exactly. And they were there not as part of the family, but as those who had an important role during the coronation. Most likely they stood there for the first and last time in their lives.

 

[Badams]

I am happy for Charles. He has waited his whole life for this. I hope he's an asset to England. I didn't watch. Reading the play by play here made me grateful that I slept instead. Not my thing. But cheers to King Charles and to England.

 

[Icetalavista]

Out of interest, how many engagements do the royals have? I agree Kate and William have their hands full until the youngest is at college, or the military, or another path.

 

[Icetalavista]

Never mind, found a site listing all their engagements by date.

 

[once_upon]

Out of interest, how many engagements do the royals have? I agree Kate and William have their hands full until the youngest is at college, or the military, or another path.

See, I don't understand this. There are millions of parents who work 40-60 hours a week, don't have live in help to care for children, cook dinners, take to.appointments. this kind of statement is a little to me.

 

[Icetalavista]

Well, yes, of course…in most peoples’ worlds. But these are royals so within their bubble K&W are busier than many. Princess Anne for example has a lot of engagements.

 

[Barbara Manatee]

There are millions of parents who work 40-60 hours a week, don't have live in help to care for children, cook dinners, take to.appointments.

Sure. William and Kate have vastly more resources than most, and they'll never have to worry about providing food or health care. But they also have the uncommon responsibility of preparing their kids for lives almost no one else in the world can understand, while every aspect of their parenting is dissected and critiqued by the world. If W & K need to take some extra time to raise their kids, more power to them. We've seen what happened when other royals placed working over parenting.

 

[once_upon]

We've seen what happened when other royals, parents need to prioritze work to provide shelter, food, healthcare[/b] over spending dedicated time to parenting.

Fixed it for you. If KC3 wants to make the BRF seem normal working people...stop complaining how terribly hard it is to parent and work.

 

[Barbara Manatee]

I don't believe anyone in the BRF has complained that it's hard to parent and work.

Raising a family is hard. My middle class parents didn't struggle as much as poor parents, but it still wasn't easy. The royals have different challenges than ordinary people, but they're still genuine challenges.

Fixed it for you.

No thank you, it's my opinion and doesn't need fixing.

 

[miffy]

See, I don't understand this. There are millions of parents who work 40-60 hours a week, don't have live in help to care for children, cook dinners, take to.appointments. this kind of statement is a little to me.

Although they have a nanny she technically no longer ‘lives in’ - they purposely moved to a 4 bedroom house so it would just be them, no staff live there. But of course they do have help when they need it.

I think it’s more that the engagements take them far away, so they wouldn’t be there to see the kids after school. They obviously do other work, but many of the actual engagements in question that are counted involve a lot of travel.

 

[once_upon]

Although they have a nanny she technically no longer ‘lives in’ - they purposely moved to a 4 bedroom house so it would just be them, no staff live there. But of course they do have help when they need it.

I think it’s more that the engagements take them far away, so they wouldn’t be there to see the kids after school. They obviously do other work, but many of the actual engagements in question that are counted involve a lot of travel.

I think the couple of statements that got to me are actually ones I hear/read a lot about parents who have to work to put food on the table or shelter from the elements.

The Royals do not have to work and can make their children are a priority. And they need to be teaching their children how to be in society and not be like other unnamed royals (I assume Andrew?)

I read this about those who are privileged. Then I hear/read comments about those not privileged "where are the parents? Why aren't the parents teaching their children to behave or act in society? Why are the children running around after dark? Etc, etc etc."

MOST parents would love to be home with their children. MOST parents in the US would love more than 4-12 weeks of leave after having children.

 

[Judy]

The only members of Camilla's family that were on the balcony were her grandsons and great nephew that were her pages and her sister who was one of her attendant

My comment was more that it’s just weird not seeing the Queen I think. I’ll have to get used to that.

 

[Sylvia]

BBC's Coronation + Concert playlist on YT: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5A4nPQbUF8BKcBkmukZJLD6bn7vtzXIX

 

[Vagabond]

The Royals do not have to work and can make their children are a priority. And they need to be teaching their children how to be in society and not be like other unnamed royals (I assume Andrew?)

I know that this is long after the fact, but the late Queen was notorious for not making her children a priority and leaving their upbringing to her husband, nannies, and schools. This started with leaving the very young Prince Charles in London while she was living in Malta. Each of her children had considerable difficulties of one sort or another, and I think that they and their own children have tried, with varying success, to be better parents than Elizabeth and Philip.