Another Rafael Arutyunyan interview

quiqie

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Yet another Rafael Arutyunyan interview: https://www.sportsdaily.ru/articles...a-ya-ne-gotovlyu-konkurentov-svoim-figuristam
Q: At the Pyeongchang Olympics, where Nathan Chen had an unsuccesful short program, he needed to take risks and include six jumps in the free program. Why was it necessary to do in Milan, where Nathan was comfortably leading after the first competitive day?
A: We do not look at the standings after the short! You need to make a progress no matter what. The coach's job is not to count the points needed for the victory. You need to teach your skater, watch him growing up and maturing.
Q: Do your athletes train to the point when they do difficult jumps automatically?
A: That’s the way it is now with Chen. With the exception of quad Salchow which is about 80% ready. Sometimes there are problems with the axel. All other jumps are 100% ready.
Q: Is the current generation of skaters doing multiple quads more talented than Evgeni Plushenko, Alexei Yagudin, your pupil Alexander Abt?
A: No. It’s just that now they are taught right technique from the young age. This is a very interesting point. Sometimes there are reports that there is a brand new wonder kid in this or that coach’s group. And I know that three months ago, he was skating in another coach’s group who taught him the necessary basics! I've been coaching Chen for seven years and I taught him every element.
Q: Is it a lucky chance to find a talented student?
A: In America, skaters usually find me. In Chen’s case, I even offered his first coach a collaboration, but she did not like that Nathan listened to me more. Although if we stayed in a tandem, then today we could share the joy for him winning the Worlds.
Q: In Russia, most coaches are dictatorial, and in America it is more of a partnership...
A: Partnership with an athlete is much more difficult. That’s what caused the situation with Chen at the Olympics (5th place finish). He himself spontaneously decided which elements to do in the short program and it led to the mistakes. I had a completely different plan, but Nathan insisted and finished 17th in the short program. I gave him the opportunity to make a mistake at the main competition of the season, but now Chen listens carefully to my recommendations.
Q: Today you are in high demand in America as a coach...
A: Not only in America. I had skaters from South Korea spending up to three months in California.
Q: Have you ever refused anyone who wanted to work with you?
A: Of course. Now I will have to say no to even more people. I believe that many skaters are going to want to train with me. At the same time, I teach them, then they go home and start competing with my skaters. Only Alexei Nikolayevich Mishin can coach skaters and then compete with them while he himself often has more talented skaters. And one word from Alexei Nikolayevich during the practice costs more than two thousand words from any other coach.
I want to reach the level when the skaters will sign contracts with me. Unfortunately, it does not happen often in our sport. People come, get something and leave any time without explaining the reason. We live in the Stone Age of sports management.
Q: Some Russian coaches working in America have built relationships with students on a contract basis...
A: I do not have such authority yet. Although I cannot say that the skaters fire me often . More often I had fired them.
Q: Maria Sotskova used to come to you to practice. Has she ever considered training in your group on a regular basis?
A: It will be difficult for Maria to change something in her training now, although she was satisfied with the results of our work together. She trained with Svetlana Panova then, and my wife and I are friends with her. I would never poach skaters from my friends. Back in Moscow, when Russian skaters asked me, I always said no in such cases.
Q: Have you ever regretted the decision to move from Moscow to California?
A: Never. In Moscow, I earned $200, and I needed at least a thousand to live. I went to America only because I needed money and I immediately started making decent money.
Q: In Russia, Olympic medalists get a bonus from the government. How does the US encourage champions?
A: There is no need for such things. Athletes and coaches in the US are self-sufficient and can monetize their victories skating in shows and getting endorsement deals and sponsor contracts. I'm paid $40 for a 20 minute lesson. Now, perhaps, I will start charging $50.
Q: In America, as well as in Russia, there are test skates, but the experts’ opinion is not shared publicly, only told to skaters and coaches.
A: In Russia, there are lots of comments after the test skates. In America, everyone likes everything. I even have to say: "Stop it!" The American specialists were shocked when I told the World silver medalist the truth about her program and performance. I just ask my students: do you want compliments or to skate well? They all take it normally.
 

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@TAHbKA translated an Orser interview from Russian in November 2014 -- it's in the Archives. Not sure why you're asking? People who translate articles here on FSU do it on their own time and it's always appreciated when they do.
No, I’m just having fun - I can read stuff in Russian, and the recent Vaitsekhovskaya interview at the Worlds 2018 got translated somewhere else (I intended to translate it once I made it back from Milan, but decided it wasn’t worth it anymore). It was an interesting interview.
It just makes me smile and wonder why Orser interviews are hardly ever discussed in this forum. But whatever.
Yeah, that 2014 interview sounds very exciting considering it’s four years old.
 
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barbarafan

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No, I’m just having fun - I can read stuff in Russian, and the recent Vaitsekhovskaya interview at the Worlds 2018 got translated somewhere else (I intended to translate it once I made it back from Milan, but decided it wasn’t worth it anymore). It was an interesting interview.
It just makes me smile and wonder why Orser interviews are hardly ever discussed in this forum. But whatever.
Yeah, that 2014 interview sounds very exciting considering it’s four years old.

aahh. I thought maybe there was a new interview with Orser than I had not seen...I was happy for a few mins.
 

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aahh. I thought maybe there was a new interview with Orser than I had not seen...I was happy for a few mins.
No, Brian is sparse with his interviews, I’m afraid. Though there seems to have been something in Korean...
 

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No, I’m just having fun - I can read stuff in Russian, and the recent Vaitsekhovskaya interview at the Worlds 2018 got translated somewhere else (I intended to translate it once I made it back from Milan, but decided it wasn’t worth it anymore). It was an interesting interview.
aahh. I thought maybe there was a new interview with Orser than I had not seen...I was happy for a few mins.
Maybe you could share those interviews and we'd discuss them.
I found the EV interview and started this thread: https://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/th...there-is-no-place-for-the-second-cook.103739/
 
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No, I’m just having fun - I can read stuff in Russian, and the recent Vaitsekhovskaya interview at the Worlds 2018 got translated somewhere else (I intended to translate it once I made it back from Milan, but decided it wasn’t worth it anymore). It was an interesting interview.
It just makes me smile and wonder why Orser interviews are hardly ever discussed in this forum. But whatever.
So instead of contributing to the forum by posting about Orser interviews, you just came in to criticize it. Okay, sure. :rolleyes:
 

Fairuza

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So instead of contributing to the forum by posting about Orser interviews, you just came in to criticize it. Okay, sure. :rolleyes:
I wasn’t really criticising anyone, I was genuinely wondering. It’s not as if this forum has to be interested in what Brian Orser has to say, but I was just wondering if there was any valid reason why his interviews went ignored. :)
 

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I wasn’t really criticising anyone, I was genuinely wondering. It’s not as if this forum has to be interested in what Brian Orser has to say, but I was just wondering if there was any valid reason why his interviews went ignored. :)
Surely Brian Orser gives many more interviews in English, than in Russian, and the english ones are easy to find... :D
 

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Also, the flavor of his informal language gets a bit lost in translation so I have to add that the way he chooses words is disarmingly honest, just like the rest.
 

Fairuza

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Because go and translate. You know, @Ka3sha, @quiqie and I actually have lives and not always have time or will to translate.
Oh no, I don’t dare to impose such an uninteresting and mediocre person as Brian Orser here, among such greats as Mozer, Arutyunyan, Sotnikova and Gleikhengauz and the rest. Let him carry on being ignore here and his students just carry on skating.
 

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Oh no, I don’t dare to impose such an uninteresting and mediocre person as Brian Orser here, among such greats as Mozer, Arutyunyan, Sotnikova and Gleikhengauz and the rest. Let him carry on being ignore here and his students just carry on skating.
You know that Brian doesn't necessarily do as many interviews in Russian as all these Russian coaches, right? People choose to translate what they are interested in, what they happen to come across, what they have time for. They aren't saying that the interview is boring or Brian isn't worth thinking about just because they choose not to translate it.

Besides, if you have a translation already, then share it. Or if you have an interview that you're interested in, you could always post asking if anyone would be willing to translate it. People may be happy to do that even if they wouldn't have taken the initiative themselves. I've translated things in French in fan fests before, but I never do it unless someone asks even if it's interesting to me.
 

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Oh no, I don’t dare to impose such an uninteresting and mediocre person as Brian Orser here, among such greats as Mozer, Arutyunyan, Sotnikova and Gleikhengauz and the rest. Let him carry on being ignore here and his students just carry on skating.
:rolleyes: & :drama:
 

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Oh no, I don’t dare to impose such an uninteresting and mediocre person as Brian Orser here, among such greats as Mozer, Arutyunyan, Sotnikova and Gleikhengauz and the rest. Let him carry on being ignore here and his students just carry on skating.

I have a feeling this is about Hanyu and that the lack of discussion or interest in Orser means we're all ignoring Orser, which is a roundabout way of ignoring Hanyu and you're really upset about that.
 

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The American specialists were shocked when I told the World silver medalist the truth about her program and performance. I just ask my students: do you want compliments or to skate well? They all take it normally.

I knew it. Raf hated Sweet Dreams and the Muse programs.
 

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I think Raf comes across as very arrogant in these interviews - for example, in stating that he fires skaters, skaters don't fire him. Perhaps this may be true and he is in much demand, but even so, I think it's arrogant.

Also, if he wants to have contracts, he'll be part of them and may not have the liberty of firing a skater.

But I can't see how contracts would work for a coach, because certain coaches aren't the best fit for certain skaters and won't get those skaters the best results. Or coaches were the best fit may no longer be that when a skater progresses to a different level. Or a skater may feel that he or she just needs a change of coach and/or training place, and initiate the coaching change on his or her own.
 

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