2026 Winter Olympics - 7 expressions of interest

By 2026 I will definitely be retired and finally able to go. Selfishly I don’t mind Turkey since it’s close to Israel where I’ll be living in the winter. Less personally, ruling out countries which will have autocratic governments in eight years requires a crystal ball we don’t have. At the moment Turkey, the US, Austria and China are either at risk or already there.
 
The Olys have always been a great lie as they claim to be non-political but are really just huge political rallies. At any rate, using the selection process to punish countries who politics you don’t like seems anti Olys message, aren’t the games suppose to be about the athletes :shuffle:

The other note is that having been to Turkey several times from 2005-2015 I can tell you the political climate has little to no effect on temporary visitors and the daily encounters of a booming economy is often at a direct conflict with the doom and gloom horror replayed on us tv over and over.

Really, if the current us admin get rid of gay marriage or legal abortion, sucks for us but how exactly will that effect tourists going to the Statue of Liberty in any other way than intellectually
 
berthesghost said:
Really, if the current us admin get rid of gay marriage or legal abortion, sucks for us but how exactly will that effect tourists going to the Statue of Liberty in any other way than intellectually
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Back when the GOP were trying to repeal the Affordable Care Act and post came across my FB feed with the title “I don’t know how to explain to people that they should care about others” or something to that effect. If we don’t care and don’t act on things that harm other people but have no real effect on our own lives, then where does the world go? We go straight to authoritarian regimes a la Trump and his cronies. I love the Olympics. I have very fond memories of 2010, but standing up for those who are being oppressed, those who don’t by virtue of their circumstances, numbers, or education have the ability to stand up for themselves, or maybe just need support in their fight, is so much more important than a sporting event.
 
True but I’m not saying sport is more important than protest, I’m saying that there are better ways. The sanctions the UN is putting on Russia is having a much bigger impact than giving the 2014 Olys to another country ever would have imo.
 
AngieNikodinovLove said:
Also on top of that even Gus Kenworthy (and Lisa Vanderpump) had to rescue and adopt dogs there...becaue you know there is a 90% chance they will end up on your menu and plate. That is once they are released from the cage wires wrapped around their bodies.
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What about cows, pigs, sheep, goats, hens, geese? As far as I know, most of people eat meat today. If those who save dogs, don't eat meat, their special attention to dogs is still questionable. If they do eat meat - what is their point of view, actually? Is it something serious??

Judging the others is easy, but it is just arrogance.
 
Rina RUS said:
What about cows, pigs, sheep, goats, hens, geese? As far as I know, most of people eat meat today. If those who save dogs, don't eat meat, their special attention to dogs is still questionable. If they do eat meat - what is their point of view, actually? Is it something serious??

Judging the others is easy, but it is just arrogance.
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You do raise a good point which is probably tough for others to hear. I have been through case studies at university that point out that people tend to care about animals they think are cute. There was a case years ago about some regulation on fishing nets off the cost of Florida that were unintentionally catching and killing dolphins. Cue the public outcry.

Through regulation, they changed the net design. Fixed the dolphin problem but instead the nets started trapping a few breeds of sharks...and in greater quantity. Really dangerous to the marine ecosystem. No one cared or did anything.

I admit there are indications that the treatment of dogs in Korea is even less humane than the typical inhumane standards of treatment of other animals elsewhere. Still, there is a point to be made about the hypocrisy of accepting the brutalization of one animal to satiate your personal gourmet preferences and advocating for the safety of others because you prefer to cuddle with it instead of eat it.

On a related note, the global supply of animal proteins (despite the dysfunctional scientific and breeding practices) just isn't keeping up with population growth/demand. Y'all gonna be surprised what we'll be eating in a few decades....
 
Rock2 said:
probably tough for others to hear
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Thank you. :)

Actually, my comment was not about animals, but about people.

I just think it is weird to say, that those who eat dogs (for example) are wild people from a wild country - today, when most of people from "decent" countries keep eating mammals and birds. What would it be, if not just arrogance?
 
Rina RUS said:
Thank you. :)

Actually, my comment was not about animals, but about people.

I just think it is weird to say, that those who eat dogs (for example) are wild people from a wild country - today, when most of people from "decent" countries keep eating mammals and birds. What would it be, if not just arrogance?
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Not arrogance, no. Hypocrisy is the word. It's everywhere.

Trump supporters hate 'lying Hillary', yet from a factual perspective, as analyzed, Trump is by far the biggest liar in American presidential history. Stuff like this exists everywhere. Same applies with 'crooked Hillary'.

And I don't think it's mean-spirited or meant to be intentional. Most of us just have inate biases that are driven by emotions, causing us to react differently to two comparable situations. We fail to recognize the disconnect, and definitely don't want it pointed out.
 
berthesghost said:
True but I’m not saying sport is more important than protest, I’m saying that there are better ways. The sanctions the UN is putting on Russia is having a much bigger impact than giving the 2014 Olys to another country ever would have imo.
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UN is putting sanctions on Russia, that is news now.
 
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Lizziebeth said:
I finally got to see Lake Placid. It is beautiful, but no way could it host the Olympics again. Very difficult to get in and out of Lake Placid - but that is part of its charm.
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A bit off-topic... This June 14th local article says Lake Placid is preparing to host the Winter Universiade in 2023: http://www.adirondackdailyenterpris.../orda-formally-commits-to-winter-universiade/
The board for the state Olympic Regional Development Authority passed a resolution Wednesday that will allow its CEO, Mike Pratt, to sign an attribution contract with the International Sports University Federation (FISU). This contract would create a partnership between and ORDA and FISU for Lake Placid to host the Winter Universiade in 2023. Some sporting events are also supposed to take place around the region in Plattsburgh, Potsdam and Saranac Lake.
The Winter Universiade, also known as the Winter World University Games, is an 11-day international event expected to attract more than 2,500 college athletes from 52 countries in sports such as hockey, figure skating, snowboarding, skiing and curling.
“Today is about us being committed to hosting this event,” Pratt said, “and moving forward officially with World University.”
The attribution contract is set to be finalized and signed Friday.
Lake Placid was the only bidder for the 2023 Winter Universiade, and the village was awarded the title of host city in March. Pratt and many other people involved with bringing the Universiade to Lake Placid said the event will strengthen North Country economics. In a previous interview, Regional Office of Sustainable Tourism President and CEO Jim McKenna said the Universiade would make people want to invest in the future of ORDA facilities and other North Country amenities.
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BaileyCatts said:
I want Sweden. :p
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The Swedish bid would stage events in Stockholm, Åre (320 miles from Stockholm), and Sigulda, Latvia. Sigulda is about 30 miles from Riga, which is, in turn, a one-hour flight or a sixteen-hour journey by ferry from Stockholm.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Winter_Olympics#Sweden
https://www.thelocal.se/20180613/latvia-to-help-sweden-with-2026-winter-olympic-bid

I realize that some Olympic events have been contested at a considerable distance from the host city (for example, the equestrian events in 2008 were held in Hong Kong rather than Beijing), but this proposal would deprive the 2026 of geographical cohesion.
 
Vagabond said:
The Swedish bid would stage events in Stockholm, Åre (320 miles from Stockholm), and Sigulda, Latvia. Sigulda is about 30 miles from Riga, which is, in turn, a one-hour flight or a sixteen-hour journey by ferry from Stockholm.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Winter_Olympics#Sweden
https://www.thelocal.se/20180613/latvia-to-help-sweden-with-2026-winter-olympic-bid

I realize that some Olympic events have been contested at a considerable distance from the host city (for example, the equestrian events in 2008 were held in Hong Kong rather than Beijing), but this proposal would deprive the 2026 of geographical cohesion.
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Yes, Stockholm is not at all a good choice because of the distance to where the skiing can be staged. There are no mountains and no guarantee of snow. The only sports that can be staged in Stockholm are the ice sports.
 
eh, whatevs. I always want it to be in the city I would like to go to if I were to go to the Olympics, which I'm not, and because, you know ... its all about me and what I wantz. :rofl: Already seen several in Canada, seen one in Italy, and if my choice is Sweden or Turkey, well I take Sweden. :P
 
berthesghost said:
Did citizens really want the Vancouver Olys? Because the Olys have been happening in most places thru sheer political strong arming for quite a while now.
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I was one who wanted it, for selfish reasons - as I lived here, I could afford to attend some FS events.

I can't speak for the rest of the city but IIRC there was a lot of opposition to the Olympics. I had a few left-leaning friends who opposed the Olympics on political grounds. They believed that one of the consequences would be that the homeless would be transported out of the neighborhood that had long been their turf, and just dumped somewhere else.

I will note that I speak about two friends in particular, and they both ended up participating in the Olympics and enjoying it.
 
Rina RUS said:
What about cows, pigs, sheep, goats, hens, geese? As far as I know, most of people eat meat today. If those who save dogs, don't eat meat, their special attention to dogs is still questionable. If they do eat meat - - what is their point of view, actually? Is it something serious??
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The dog has a special place among all animals in the human heart, generally speaking. And the dog has served humankind in numerous capacities throughout history as both companion and worker. The canine species have proven to be extraordinarily useful and valuable to humankind - arguable even more so than the horse, the ox and the donkey because of its flexibility - so people who otherwise eat meat find the idea of eating dogs and also cats (because they too are companion pets) repugnant.

A lot of people also see eating horse as repugnant.

Now, I'm not denying there is any hypocrisy in this view. It may be wrong to assume that other animals lack the intelligence of dogs. For example, pigs that have undergone computer testing have been found to have a capacity for abstract intelligence. The pig is particularly maligned, IMO. And we're seeing more and more of them as pets these days.

And I'll point out that there are plenty of people who don't eat any meat at all.

But basically, when people see a dog going to the slaughter to become meat, they think that this dog could be a human's loving companion.

Not as much so when they see a cow going to the slaughter. You can't curl up on the couch with your cow.

Rock2 said:
You do raise a good point which is probably tough for others to hear. I have been through case studies at university that point out that people tend to care about animals they think are cute. There was a case years ago about some regulation on fishing nets off the cost of Florida that were unintentionally catching and killing dolphins. Cue the public outcry.
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But dolphins, like dogs, have a history of relationships with human beings (IIRC Flipper's trainer claimed the dolphin suicided by not exiting his pool for air - because he was so lonely after he retired :(). The same is not true of the shark.

And many people do care about animals who aren't conventionally cute - like rhinos being killed for their tusks.

I admit there are indications that the treatment of dogs in Korea is even less humane than the typical inhumane standards of treatment of other animals elsewhere.
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Although treatments of farm animals is generally sub-par, it varies.

Some beef cows (except veal calves) get to spend a some time at pasture, prior to the horrors of the slaughterhouse. Whereas pigs are often kept in cages so small they can't even turn around, for their whole lives, and battery chickens live in dark, deplorable conditions. :(:(
 
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The multi-city bids (Italy's which I believe is not dissolved?) seem intriguing in concept but difficult to imagine as being complete from an experience standpoint. As it is, so many hosts have mountain and coastal cluster set ups, making the experience seems like 2 separate events.
 
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calg...-games-2026-stockholm-cortina-milan-1.4855877
But Calgary must successfully sell a bid at home ahead of a Nov. 13 plebiscite before the city can start an international campaign, according to Calgary 2026 board chair Scott Hutcheson.
"Our view is we need to take care of our domestic interests first, make sure Calgarians are informed, make sure we're listening to Calgarians and that they understand what is in their prospective bid," Hutcheson told The Canadian Press from Buenos Aires.
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If the Calgary reddit is any indication, there is not a lot of local enthusiasm for an Olympic bid in Calgary.
We are still recovering economically, with oil and gas industry still in distress. People are leaving rather than moving to our lovely city.

Nevertheless, I'd love for the event to be held here. I think it would provide something tangibly positive for the city and province to work toward. I think there is the expertise with running world class events and a solid homegrown volunteer base to support the event. Plus, we already have some infrastructure in place...we can't help it if some will have to be built and/or updated. In the end, it will benefit this city. I personally will be voting yes to the plebiscite in November.
 
DynamicMutation said:
If the Calgary reddit is any indication, there is not a lot of local enthusiasm for an Olympic bid in Calgary.
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The polling that I’ve seen shows majority approval; circa 50-55% in favour, about a third against, the rest either undecided or no opinion.

Of course, open question which demographics turn out for a plebiscite.
 
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