Stuff that teams like ChoBat and GilPoir will have over newer teams in no small part because of the # of years they've been skating together. Also the closeness to each other & ability to maintain that spacing through the twizzles and step sequences.So like the stuff that used to be important in ice dance?
I feel like both of F/G's programs seem more like exhibitions.That being said, don't think Fear/Gibson's program is as effective as most. I'm glad they have added more transitional content but like the Irish jigs people try, this reel doesn't translate to the ice imo.
I blame IAM. They are instrumental in dance creations for their teams. Look at each teams programs over the years. Good coaches may say "ok you want to do that". Excellent coaches would guide teams to a better choice of music/movements.
I think that this was the first time I actually liked Fear & Gibson's skating.
It always has been and still is. I am not an international judge but I do judge ice dance here. And with solo dance becoming an ever growing discipline we actually get more opportunity to judge it because we have always had limited couples.So like the stuff that used to be important in ice dance?
I thought it was beautiful. It compliments their skating skills. Shame about the fall.
They do show great speed and deep edges..when they're actually skating. Their FD can be mesmerizing but again it seems posey to me. I LOVE F/G's FD. I'm not upset with the final standings but it's going to be very interesting at the Olympics. I'll only add that those overly long skirts are a hazard in ID (Laurence's skirt even drew blood!), I wish that C/B would go back to their Snake FD (your skirt is STILL too long Maddie!) and I think that Z/K should have placed much higher!
Same. It was the first time I liked it all season. It was mesmerizing until the fall.
I remember when it was common for ice dance women to wear a longer skirt than singles skaters or pairs. But not THAT long. Since both these costumes are coming out of the same training center, I speculate that someone there has a thing for these skirts.
At least with Madi's, she is using it as a cape and it is part of the dance and movement. It's still too long. But it also has a point. I don't see the point with the other long skirts. The program would work just as well without them.
Do you honestly expect them to have a program about morbid obesity, guilt, and remorse?
On the E! Broadcast, a commentator said the dance was about the movement of water or something to that effect.
A movie soundtrack (and for that matter, any piece of music that goes with a story) doesn't have to be interpreted literally; it can stand on its own.
I suspect that Madi and Evan trained A LOT to handle that skirt/cape so it wouldn't be a hazard, but that FBCiz didn't think it necessary train specifically for a skirt hazard since skirts that long have become pretty common and it's probably (certainly ?) never been a problem before in all their run-throughs.I remember when it was common for ice dance women to wear a longer skirt than singles skaters or pairs. But not THAT long. Since both these costumes are coming out of the same training center, I speculate that someone there has a thing for these skirts.
And speaking of costumes that bug... why are F-B/Ciz wearing costumes that remind us of the ocean? They do realize that the movie The Whale is not literally about whales, right?
I expected them to pick different music that is more evocative of water than what they picked.Do you honestly expect them to have a program about morbid obesity, guilt, and remorse?
This soundtrack does not invoke "the movement of water" or anything about water to me at all. Maybe this is why I find their program boring and pretensious.
Laurence had skirt issues with Nik (including a fall iirc) one season as well so she must be used to it being a possibility by now.
It was the flamenco program, which is ironic considering Laurence is now competing against a flamenco/paso doble hybrid.
During the broadcast iirc one of the commentators mentioned that C&B took a spill during a practice due to her skirt. Not to mention that this particular team has a history of taking falls during competitions. Even at the Olympics.
eta I got completely confused as to who you were talking aboutDuring the broadcast iirc one of the commentators mentioned that C&B took a spill during a practice due to her skirt. Not to mention that this particular team has a history of taking falls during competitions. Even at the Olympics.
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https://youtu.be/UewNmgTOJ-A?si=vKFwFtwaEYu92Doh
Why tempt fate with a much too long skirt that they've already fallen on in practice?
. AND THEN. While I can the dislike FB/C because I know the lore of this partnership, but I feel like we all have eyes, and I would hope if I just happened upon this cold, I'd recognize that they are the best dancers. We did agree that the Brits were entertaining.
The judges seem confused, too. We thought judging of key points was inconsistent at best, so here we are.
Piper and Paul (G/P)?
I prefer R/A to Z/K. R/A's programs this year for me more creative and interesting. Plus love their music choices. And their RD brings on the cheese (which whilst not an official component should be).
It does for me which is why I think I love it so much. I live on an island nation and the ocean is such a powerful force here both in nature and livelihood. Both the music and movement in their FD evokes the same feelings for me as when I sit in solitude on the rocks watching the rhythm of the ocean when it is calm and when it is raging. Their rotational lift to that pulse in the music reminds me of sitting by myself on the deck of the ship in calm waters watching whales move by us. For me the ocean is both peaceful and terrifying which stirs up a mix of emotions in me at the same time as it has provided both life and death to my personal circle.
I love the Starry Night painting, always have. I so wanted Piper and Paul to tap into what I feel when I see that painting. They do in part but I crave more intensity. But I see for others it gives them exactly what they want. 
