2025 4CC - Rhythm Dance: “I Got Seoul But I’m Not Sold Dear”

[skatfan]

Always good when there’s a little bit of surprise in dance since it’s so rare

 

[Jay42]

I am very happy with this. Especially since I've been skipping watching Piper and Paul live because it's been making me too nervous. I've been ubering them since 2013 it's very stressful.

 

[MacMadame]

Is anyone but us West Coasters going to make it to the Mens SP?

 

[skatfan]

Is anyone but us West Coasters going to make it to the Mens SP?

I am out. I have to work tomorrow.

 

[Former Lurve Goddess]

I’m going back to sleep but might try to catch the last 2 flights of men.

 

[Karen-W]

RD protocols - https://results.isu.org/results/sea...------QUAL000100--_JudgesDetailsperSkater.pdf

Pl.	Qual.	Name	Nation	TSS =	TES +		PCS +	CO	PR	SK	Ded. -	StN.
1​	Q​	Piper GILLES / Paul POIRIER	CAN	87.22​	49.41​		37.81​	9.46​	9.61​	9.36​	0.00​	#14​
2​	Q​	Madison CHOCK / Evan BATES	USA	86.21​	48.51​		37.70​	9.46​	9.46​	9.43​	0.00​	#12​
3​	Q​	Marjorie LAJOIE / Zachary LAGHA	CAN	82.86​	47.19​		35.67​	8.96​	9.04​	8.82​	0.00​	#13​
4​	Q​	Christina CARREIRA / Anthony PONOMARENKO	USA	79.30​	45.04​		34.26​	8.61​	8.61​	8.54​	0.00​	#11​
5​	Q​	Emilea ZINGAS / Vadym KOLESNIK	USA	74.63​	42.09​		32.54​	8.14​	8.32​	8.00​	0.00​	#10​
6​	Q​	Hannah LIM / Ye QUAN	KOR	72.37​	41.08​		31.29​	7.89​	7.89​	7.75​	0.00​	#7​
7​	Q​	Holly HARRIS / Jason CHAN	AUS	69.37​	39.08​		30.29​	7.61​	7.71​	7.46​	0.00​	#8​
8​	Q​	Utana YOSHIDA / Masaya MORITA	JPN	65.00​	35.63​		29.37​	7.43​	7.29​	7.36​	0.00​	#6​
9​	Q​	Zixi XIAO / Linghao HE	CHN	62.36​	35.62​		26.74​	6.79​	6.68​	6.64​	0.00​	#2​
10​	Q​	Alicia FABBRI / Paul AYER	CAN	60.06​	32.03​		29.03​	7.32​	7.21​	7.29​	1.00​	#9​
11​	Q​	Junfei REN / Jianing XING	CHN	59.88​	33.05​		26.83​	6.68​	6.82​	6.68​	0.00​	#3​
12​	Q​	Azusa TANAKA / Shingo NISHIYAMA	JPN	59.84​	34.04​		26.80​	6.79​	6.57​	6.79​	1.00​	#4​
13​	Q​	Gaukhar NAURYZOVA / Boyisangur DATIEV	KAZ	49.40​	26.67​		22.73​	5.71​	5.68​	5.71​	0.00​	#5​
14​	Q​	Harlow Lynella STANLEY / Seiji URANO	MEX	46.71​	24.82​		21.89​	5.46​	5.46​	5.54​	0.00​	#1​

 

[Jay42]

I am out. I have to work tomorrow.

Yeah I actually work in the morning for once so I'm out too.

 

[MacMadame]

No way. ChoBat have the strongest FD of the top 5 by a fair bit & their RD has improved enough.

GilPoir's FD is sooooo bad, there's no way they don't lose whatever RD advantage they have to ChoBat in the FD and lose overall.

The Italians are better than both of these teams. Too bad they can't seem to get the judges on their side. And there are the Brits too who are ready to capitalize on any mistakes.

 

[Karen-W]

The Italians are better than both of these teams. Too bad they can't seem to get the judges on their side. And there are the Brits too who are ready to capitalize on any mistakes.

GuigFab's programs - both of them - this season are not good. And the less said about FearGib's programs - both of them - the better.

 

[Karen-W]

Ugh - CarPon's pattern step got dropped to L2 on review - that's most of what kept them from 80 today.

 

[4rkidz]

Just catching up, another event well judged and another super interesting free dance to come!

 

[her grace]

Watched the replay, and glad I didn't stay up to watch it live when the feed kept glitching and cutting out entire elements of the programs.

Of the lower-ranked teams, I was very impressed with Yoshida/Morita. They made that midline a highlight with incredible speed!

Lim/Quan: program looked new, not as fully committed as the older teams. Nice technique and nice performance and lots of room to grow.

Harris/Chan: They always strike me as a good, but not great team, but today they looked really on. He was into it as much as she was and they hit to their ability.

Fabbri/Ayer: Ouch. Starting to seem like a nervy team. I know being in this position is new for them, but this isn't the first time they've counted a major mistake this season. And since this program is much stronger than their FD, they may not rise that much even if they skate well in FD.

Zingas/Kolesnik: The feed cut out so much so hard to comment on this program. When I saw the base value for the PD, I thought, man, pro-IAM panel is really doing their thing , but then it raised during review. In a field this deep, Zingas' technique does stand out as not as high a standard, though her body movement is world class.

Carreira/Ponomarenko: Much better than nationals, less stiff and more into it. His performance capabilities continue to improve; she's already there.

Lajoie/Lagha: The choreography can be a bit herky-jerky and I felt they needed more snap into those movements; it felt like they were holding back a bit. Good program concept and the technique was fine.

Chock/Bates: skating slow and small in their Hubbell/Donohue so-many-music-cuts tribute program. They handle the different eras of music well, but the program doesn't let them develop and maintain a concept, which ultimately, didn't look as impressive to me as did G/P's program.

Gilles/Poirier: Immediately noticed how much faster they were skating than Chock/Bates did. Fully realized concept with both partners engaged. Good technique. Happy judges put them first.

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

I’m on the last group now, did the whole performance of my favorite second favorite team you freeze zingas and Kolesnik?


This team should definitely be on the American worlds team and I’m so bummed that they not ….the only thing I wish they would do is his costume is so basic and I can’t stand the color. I wish they give him something more striking that doesn’t looks like my high school colors for the mascot.

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

What? How is technical score behind Lim and Quan?

 

[PRlady]

It doesn’t stay that way, went up three points on review.

Well the freezes sure didn’t help matters, but other than CPon and Gil Poi, they’ve all skated better. I really am bewildered by Cho Bat’s reign of terror and am glad they finished second, they really looked slow today albeit better than Nats.

Can’t wait for the next gen (CPon, LaLa, Lop/Bri and others) to battle it out, hoping top 4 teams all retire right after Olys.

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

It doesn’t stay that way, went up three points on review.

Well the freezes sure didn’t help matters, but other than CPon and Gil Poi, they’ve all skated better. I really am bewildered by Cho Bat’s reign of terror and am glad they finished second, they really looked slow today albeit better than Nats.

Can’t wait for the next gen (CPon, LaLa, Lop/Bri and others) to battle it out, hoping top 4 teams all retire right after Olys.

Thank you, yes, I saw that. Wow 74 points? I think green and parsons are going to do better than that this week. I wonder what’s going on. I really love that team.

I just got to Madison and Evan and oh boy it’s frozen again

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

I’m already up to this Austin Powers tragedy that I don’t like. Lots of old fogey old fashion Chubby Checker type songs this season, what is the theme for next season has it been announced?

 

[Aceon6]

Blumberg is very tough on those PSt levels.

Long suppressed anger from being buried in compulsories and pattern dances.

The YouTube replay is freeze free if you’ve got vpn.

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

Long suppressed anger from being buried in compulsories and pattern dances.

And rightfully so, now can we please have Naomi Lang for a judge or specialist

 

[Aceon6]

Light dawns on marble head… ChoBat’s reworked dance of 10,000 clips has never sat right with me and I finally figured it out. Rock Around the Clock is mid-50s, The Twist is mid 60s. With all the futzing with the music cut, they ended up in the wrong damned order in the program. And yes, I’m anal about such things.

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

Light dawns on marble head… ChoBat’s reworked dance of 10,000 clips has never sat right with me and I finally figured it out. Rock Around the Clock is mid-50s, The Twist is mid 60s. With all the futzing with the music cut, they ended up in the wrong damned order in the program. And yes, I’m anal about such things.

I have a feeling you’re a Virgo

 

[Aceon6]

I have a feeling you’re a Virgo

Nope. Not even close.

 

[Colonel Green]

Paul Ayer had one of the more acrobatic falls I can recall in ice dance — another context and you could almost have passed that off as choreo.

 

[once_upon]

Light dawns on marble head… ChoBat’s reworked dance of 10,000 clips has never sat right with me and I finally figured it out. Rock Around the Clock is mid-50s, The Twist is mid 60s. With all the futzing with the music cut, they ended up in the wrong damned order in the program. And yes, I’m anal about such things.

That was my comment at the begining of the season
We'd jump back and forth with decades, in no particular order. It was very distracting. I think I said pick a decade and go with it.

 

[Sally1214]

Just finished watching the RD event. I'm sure glad I decided to get some sleep last night so I could watch the freeze-free ISU You Tube vids today when I was all bright-eyed and bushy-tailed.

I was actually surprised at how much I enjoyed most of the couples in the earlier groups. Both the Chinese pairs were FUN to watch.

Shame about the non-element fall for Tanaka/Nishiyama. I thought Shingo was the better dancer of the duo ... he was REALLY into the music.

Yoshida and Morita were fabulous! Great speed ... they were "flying low" out there.

What a great skate for Lim/Quan on their home turf. Ye's arms .... wow .... he brought the guns for sure. He should ALWAYS wear sleeveless shirts.

Liked Harris and Chan's ABBA medley. Holly looked FANTASTIC in that unitard .... my fave costume of the event.

Fabbri/Ayer: Sniff .... His fall absolutely buried them. Shame.

Let's be clear: The USA is a VERY strong ice-dancing nation right now!
Emilea/Vadym: Much improved, imo. Equally strong dancers. Nobody could ever say Vadym doesn't "feel it."
Christina/Anthony: Just excellent! Anthony has a really solid build ... looks very strong. Seems more confident too.
Madison/Evan: Also excellent but, whoah, some of those GOEs were through the roof. World titles tend to do that.

Lajoie/Lagha: Goodness, someone should coach the arena announcer on how to pronounce French surnames! She made Chris sound like a world-class linquist. I enjoyed their program. Zachary is such a ham! I was surprised at how close their TES were to Madison/Evan.

Piper/Paul: They skated the heck out of that program. I thought they were the best today and was glad to see them in 1st place.

Overall, a most enjoyable RD event.

Question: What is the pile of folers/files on the table in the K/C? The area is so tastefully done with the vases and plants ... love it ... and that pile of "whatever" just looks like it needs to be moved.

 

[Sally1214]

GilPoir's FD is sooooo bad, there's no way they don't lose whatever RD advantage they have to ChoBat in the FD and lose overall.

Them there's fightin' words to a loyal Canuck!

 

[BlueRidge]

Paul Ayer had one of the more acrobatic falls I can recall in ice dance — another context and you could almost have passed that off as choreo.

I'm still trying to decide if I should watch this

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

area is so tastefully done with the vases and plants ... love it ... and that pile of "whatever" just looks like it needs to be moved.

Staging decor provided by local gays

 

[Rukia]

Finally watched this and I agree with g/p over c/b. cpom did great! Sad about Ayer's fall because I thought they were doing very well until then. I love love Yoshida/Morita.

 

[Sally1214]

Staging decor provided by local gays

Not a doubt in my mind about that.