The Dance Hall 12: Boston Tea Dance Party

[deegee]

Normally it would be a big stumbling block, but GOOD LORD the top 3 dance teams are stale:

Chock/Bates, great gowns, beautiful gowns. Mediocre ice coverage.
Gilles/Poirer, easy on the eyes, probably my favorite of the top 3, but Olympic champs? Meh.
Italians, limited personality, limited voice. Good basics.

I'm not a big fan of Cizeron and on paper this new partnership isn't a great match, but I do think they have a shot. This is a vulnerable top 3.

i think you are correct, unfortunately

i need g/f to finally do the thing that h/d never quite managed-- find that program that showcases their talents in a way that makes it impossible for the audience AND judges to ignore

 

[Karen-W]

i think you are correct, unfortunately

i need g/f to finally do the thing that h/d never quite managed-- find that program that showcases their talents in a way that makes it impossible for the audience AND judges to ignore

I think the Olympics being in Italy will propel GuigFab ahead of GilPoir next season. I could be wrong, but the most vulnerable of the top 3 to FBCiz overtaking them are likely GilPoir.

 

[irenemulindwairen]

LOL.

But, also, false! Those are all great country artists, but they set the table for what was to come in the '90s & '00s. Plus, artists like Cash, Parton, Lynn, Harris & Nelson were all still actively releasing new material in the '90s and '00s.

LORD HAVE MERCY!

 

[irenemulindwairen]

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[irenemulindwairen]

In theory, I don't have any problems with this team-up. Neither of them's been accused of any crime, let alone one that should see them barred from competition. His previous partnership has been cleanly if perhaps not amicably dissolved, and presumably hers has too, out of the public eye. It's fine. They're fine.

In practice, though, I'm just not interested.

 

[Cayuse]

LORD HAVE MERCY!

Reading your comment about country music brought this lyric to mind from a 60's country song sung by Billy Jeol. "Lord have mercy on a boy from down in the Boondocks!"

 

[Icetalavista]

My biggest question re F-B/Ciz is age. They are 32/35 now, have never competed, and have a very short time to catch up to other skaters. But ice dance esp, of all the skating disciplines, has a history of odd developments.

 

[tony]

My biggest question re F-B/Ciz is age. They are 32/35 now, have never competed, and have a very short time to catch up to other skaters. But ice dance esp, of all the skating disciplines, has a history of odd developments.

32 & 30. Savchenko was what.. 30 or 31 when she teamed up with Massot and she was on the podium at the end of the first season. Radford was 32 when he teamed up with Vanessa James and they, too, ended up on the World podium in their first (and only) year.

Different disciplines, sure, but no one has any idea what is going to pan out anyways. I don't think age will have much to do with it.

 

[PRlady]

They’re younger or same age as the three golden oldie couples at the top. Lots of other contenders are in their mid-late twenties, it’s rare for a younger couple to break through in dance. There are problems with this pairing but I don’t think age is one of them.

 

[kwanfan1818]

I'm not so sure taking the last cycle plus two pandemic years as a baseline is necessarily indicative of the coming cycle. After a two-year-disruption, it's been a weak cycle, Gilles had cancer when G/P looked most competitive, and the system is now rigged for choreographic elements rather than skating. I think the teams behind them 5th and down overall are stronger than the teams that were in the last couple of cycles. I can't imagine that since they've, or at least he's, said that the goal is to win everything next year, he hasn't looked at the field and said, "Hold my beer," whereas he might not have had the competition been stronger.

I don't think age is to their advantage, but experience certainly is. (Papadakis/Cizeron were young, but by 2018 they had as much experience at the top as any of the teams competing now, and they had the continuity of having Haguenauer in their court.) They don't have to move, they don't have to get used to IAM, they know each other well, [Edited to remove: and their funding from Quebec is probably settled since they're skating for FRA, doh). They have to keep healthy, adjust to each other, and respond when assumptions they made prove to be false, forcing them to work through them.

I'm not so sure if they do reasonably well this year and decide to go to 2030 they'll find the skaters coming up now such a pushover, although because the French Fed is comprised of idiots, Lopareva/Brissaud are likely going to get rolled over.

 

[Spiralgraph]

Reading your comment about country music brought this lyric to mind from a 60's country song sung by Billy Jeol. "Lord have mercy on a boy from down in the Boondocks!"

That was by Billy Joe Royal, an entirely different singer. Sorry for the off topic....

 

[jackson]

My biggest question re F-B/Ciz is age. They are 32/35 now, have never competed, and have a very short time to catch up to other skaters. But ice dance esp, of all the skating disciplines, has a history of odd developments.

He's 30.

 

[lauravvv]

He's 30.

Yes, and she is 32, going to be 33 this year (in case if @Icetalavista meant to say that she is 35).

 

[tony]

Yes, and she is 32, going to be 33 this year

But again, I'm not really sure why this would be a major hindrance especially for her- as she was all ready to compete at the beginning of this season. She didn't really step away from the sport at all. We already know they are aiming for 2026. If they aim for 2030 for one reason or another, then she'd be Evan Bates' age that he will be next year. Marco Fabbri is going to be 38 when the Olympics start. All of the other World medalists from the last two seasons will be at or around 35 themselves.

ETA- for clarity, you didn't have the second half of your statement when I quoted you-- so I was responding to the idea that they were somehow too old or whatever else, but it's been said above by others anyways.

 

[lauravvv]

But again, I'm not really sure why this would be a major hindrance especially for her- as she was all ready to compete at the beginning of this season. She didn't really step away from the sport at all. We already know they are aiming for 2026. If they aim for 2030 for one reason or another, then she'd be Evan Bates' age that he will be next year. Marco Fabbri is going to be 38 when the Olympics start. All of the other World medalists from the last two seasons will be at or around 35 themselves.

I didn't mean to say that this would be a hindrance. All I meant to say was that both of them are younger than @Icetalavista wrote. And that's indeed not that much for ice dancers.

 

[irenemulindwairen]

Reading your comment about country music brought this lyric to mind from a 60's country song sung by Billy Jeol. "Lord have mercy on a boy from down in the Boondocks!"

 

[Bigbird]

I am excited about next season, because with few exceptions, notably the teams from the Margolio Camp and Scott Moir's work with Car/Pon, with an honorable mention to Smar/Dieck, I've not been exceedingly excited about Ice Dance these last two seasons. I need these FB/Ciz to bring it on the ice. Let the courts deal with the other issues.

 

[Karen-W]

Results page is up for Worlds -

Referee - Jodi Abbott CAN
TC - Hilary Selby GBR
TS - Julia Rey USA
TS - Francesca Fermi ITA

 

[Andrea82]

Results page is up for Worlds -

Referee - Jodi Abbott CAN
TC - Hilary Selby GBR
TS - Julia Rey USA
TS - Francesca Fermi USA

The ISU-appointed officials selected from the 2024 top 5 countries.

 

[Karen-W]

The ISU-appointed officials selected from the 2024 top 5 countries.

Whoops - I meant to type ITA behind Fermi's name. I'll edit my post.

 

[kwanfan1818]

Yowza, I was wondering how NA and the cradle of the English mother tongue got to stack the deck entirely,

 

[yurokis40]

I don`t think I will be able to stomach if they give chock and bore another world title especially if Piper and Paul are at there best the free dances of chock and bates have been awful this quad.

 

[Bigbird]

I am loving the Mraz brother and sister team more and more. I think they were underscored. But I hope they continue to progress.

 

[alice73]

I’m literally crying right now because I won’t see exquisite tango free dance from Turkkila/Versluis at Worlds. Heartbroken for them.

 

[firstflight]

T/V are back in the FD by 0.01.

 

[alice73]

T/V are back in the FD by 0.01.

Thank you for posting. I didn’t know this. I was so upset I stopped watching.

 

[Karen-W]

2025-26 Rhythm Dance Update -

https://twitter.com/x/status/1905756134797168661

 

[Jay42]

I'm choosing to be optimistic even if the ongoing decades theme is ridiculous and I miss patterns. So in choosing optimism I just want to say:

Shania Twain medley please.

Also Eiffel 65, for the lols.

 

[Karen-W]

I'm choosing to be optimistic even if the ongoing decades theme is ridiculous and I miss patterns. So in choosing optimism I just want to say:

Shania Twain medley please.

Also Eiffel 65, for the lols.

Did you see this next tweet?

Main genres of 1990s music: 1) Hip-hop & street dance, 2) Rave & house dance, 3) Pop & commercial dance, 4) Grunge & alternative rock

I'm not sure how Shania Twain fits into that really. Unfortunately. I mean, I could try an argument that country line dancing fits as commercial dance, but I doubt that the IDTC and their idiot leader would buy it, would they?

 

[Marta24]

I'm here begging again for a Depeche Mode RD. The Violator album is right there.