U.S. Men 2025-26 Discussion - Quad God and the Mere Mortals
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Look, I'm a HUGE Jason stan, but I don't think he was in any shape to get the US three spots next year.
Last season he had a rough fall but a good Nationals. This he's just been... rough. And not just on the 3A, but on jumps I'd normally expect him to have no problem with.
We'll have two spots and there's no one to blame other than the US men only really having one great skater right now, but I would've blamed Jason for going if he went and put out skates like he had this fall or at Nationals.
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He was 12th at the Olympics and IIRC at least two who finished higher won’t be there. Jason can’t be asked to do more than what he’s already done , for which I’m grateful. He’s clearly past his prime and another Nats-like performance would be needlessly humiliating.
Karen-W
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Well, I'd blame the US men specifically for not getting the job done - something I've consistently said the past few seasons. And I'd blame the USFS in general for relying on Brown the past few seasons instead of putting the feet of the other men to the fire and forcing them to step up & get the job done.
Three - Shaidorov, Cha & Gumennik - won't be at Worlds, which would move Torgy up to 9th - he was less than 1 point away from beating Aymoz & 1.21 points away from beating Egadze in Milano. Theoretically, I think 8th is probably the highest he's likely to finish, though he could be lower if Miura or Britschgi show up in better shape than they were in Milano.
Provided Ilia is on the podium in Prague I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that we keep three spots for next season, but I'm convinced of Torgashev quiet yet despite two good competitions in a row (Nats & Olympics).
Vagabond
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It's all a huge konspiracy against Jason. Always has been, always shall be. 
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I can't imagine being a skater like Jason, securing 3 spots for the men time and time again, and being diminished by Internet fans non-stop. What a glorious career he's had.
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IMO it's just a minority and not worth getting too upset about - Jason has a LOT of love from many, many more fans around the world.
While there are people who have always hated him and drag him...
I think it's also delusional to say that he would've definitely earned 3 spots this year. Yes, he's had an AMAZING career and is one of my favorite skaters of all time, but I can't deny his skating this season hasn't been up to his standard. It's not diminishing him or his accomplishments over the years, it's being realistic.
Am I sad to see him go out this way? Yes. But I also won't lie to myself and say he's the same Jason who can be relied on to finish in the Top 10.
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Brown's Total Score at Nationals this season would have put him in eighteenth place at the Olympics, more than thirty points behind Torgashev, who finished in twelfth. Shaidurov and Gummenik won't be competing in Prague. I think that there is a good chance that Malinin and Torgashev can, together, earn a third entry at next year's Worlds for the U.S. men.
